Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour
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@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Penalty in the air against Welsh 11 was fine.
Please explain
Because in real time and the limited replays it appeared that Adams was in the air and Jordie was on the ground and at the last moment Jordie left the ground and clattered into Adams preventing him from catching the ball.
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Penalty in the air against Welsh 11 was fine.
Please explain
Because in real time and the limited replays it appeared that Adams was in the air and Jordie was on the ground and at the last moment Jordie left the ground and clattered into Adams preventing him from catching the ball.
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
Doesn't mean you're right.
Ref team penalised the dirty cheating Taff for running past the ball with no intention of catching the ball, clattering into Jordie like the stinking thug he was. Ha.
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@toddy said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
After reading comments, I would've thought that the AB forwards smashed Wales, but they did not.
Fairly average 40 minutes of rugby against Wales B. Beauden Barrett good, Savea fringe running very good (great tactic against rush defence), Whitelock very good, Papalii good.
ABs very lucky not to concede three cards. Barrett for the knock down, and Blackadder's shoulder charge (tucked his arm, contact shoulder on shoulder). The Welsh player led with his head, and tucked it, but we were lucky there.
Yeah, was wondering at the time if we were going to see a red for Laulala and a yellow for Blackadder. Shit technique from both of them that could have cost us with a different ref.
That was my take on events, possibly two YC because Blackadder’s illegal hit sent Moriarity lower.
So mitigating factor for red.
But first point of contact was shoulder to head, which I’ve seen plenty given straight red.
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@toddy said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
After reading comments, I would've thought that the AB forwards smashed Wales, but they did not.
Fairly average 40 minutes of rugby against Wales B. Beauden Barrett good, Savea fringe running very good (great tactic against rush defence), Whitelock very good, Papalii good.
ABs very lucky not to concede three cards. Barrett for the knock down, and Blackadder's shoulder charge (tucked his arm, contact shoulder on shoulder). The Welsh player led with his head, and tucked it, but we were lucky there.
Yeah, was wondering at the time if we were going to see a red for Laulala and a yellow for Blackadder. Shit technique from both of them that could have cost us with a different ref.
That was my take on events, possibly two YC because Blackadder’s illegal hit sent Moriarity lower.
So mitigating factor for red.
But first point of contact was shoulder to head, which I’ve seen plenty given straight red.
Oh puhleese Mike. Put the eye patch away. Barely yellow on Laulala.
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With all due respect to NH posters, it’s the same crap every single time we tour up here snd this fan has zero interest in any ref shrieking, bad call whinging, post match ref analysis etc etc.
If you are dominating and going forwards, you get the calls.
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@majorrage said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
With all due respect to NH posters, it’s the same crap every single time we tour up here snd this fan has zero interest in any ref shrieking, bad call whinging, post match ref analysis etc etc.
If you are dominating and going forwards, you get the calls.
End.
Simples.
We controls the World Rugbys.
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@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
:grinning_squinting_face:
Oh come on.
So please explain why you and the ref thought otherwise
The rationale was that Adams had gone past the ball and was not in a position to catch it, whereas Barrett was running on to the ball and was in a position to catch it. IMO that rationale stands up
Worst decision for me was no yellow for the other Barrett’s deliberate knock on. Can understand the no penalty try but not to card him was spineless.
@catogrande said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
:grinning_squinting_face:
Oh come on.
So please explain why you and the ref thought otherwise
The rationale was that Adams had gone past the ball and was not in a position to catch it, whereas Barrett was running on to the ball and was in a position to catch it. IMO that rationale stands up
Worst decision for me was no yellow for the other Barrett’s deliberate knock on. Can understand the no penalty try but not to card him was spineless.
Kinda agree
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@catogrande said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
:grinning_squinting_face:
Oh come on.
So please explain why you and the ref thought otherwise
The rationale was that Adams had gone past the ball and was not in a position to catch it, whereas Barrett was running on to the ball and was in a position to catch it. IMO that rationale stands up
Worst decision for me was no yellow for the other Barrett’s deliberate knock on. Can understand the no penalty try but not to card him was spineless.
Sort of agree, but he scored two trys from doing the same thing and almost did it again there. Wasn’t a slap down.
@kirwan said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@catogrande said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
:grinning_squinting_face:
Oh come on.
So please explain why you and the ref thought otherwise
The rationale was that Adams had gone past the ball and was not in a position to catch it, whereas Barrett was running on to the ball and was in a position to catch it. IMO that rationale stands up
Worst decision for me was no yellow for the other Barrett’s deliberate knock on. Can understand the no penalty try but not to card him was spineless.
Sort of agree, but he scored two trys from doing the same thing and almost did it again there. Wasn’t a slap down.
Forward
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I've changed opinion so often thi season that I'm now an honorary member of the NZ Schizophrenia Society, but for Ireland my backline would
- Weber
- Mounga
- Reece
- ALB
- Ioane
- Jordan
- J Barrett
TJP, Tupaea, Barrett or DMac
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Without a doubt the ref favoured the ABs. It wasn't a shocking performance, and didn't affect the outcome if the game, but we got the rub of the green over the course of the 80 minutes. That's rugby though, it's impossible for a ref to be perfectly even throughout the game, teams just have to be mentally strong enough to stick to their game and not let decisions that go against them throw them off.
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@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I didn't read the game thread in real time. But post game I haven't really heard much talk about the ref. As it should be. I thought he had a decent game, of course the attitude of both teams probably made his day easier
Give it a few hours for the Welsh to wake up!
@nostrildamus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I didn't read the game thread in real time. But post game I haven't really heard much talk about the ref. As it should be. I thought he had a decent game, of course the attitude of both teams probably made his day easier
Give it a few hours for the Welsh to wake up!
Read this then
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/my-god-unheard-wales-v-22019824
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@nostrildamus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I didn't read the game thread in real time. But post game I haven't really heard much talk about the ref. As it should be. I thought he had a decent game, of course the attitude of both teams probably made his day easier
Give it a few hours for the Welsh to wake up!
Read this then
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/my-god-unheard-wales-v-22019824
@jk said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@nostrildamus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I didn't read the game thread in real time. But post game I haven't really heard much talk about the ref. As it should be. I thought he had a decent game, of course the attitude of both teams probably made his day easier
Give it a few hours for the Welsh to wake up!
Read this then
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/my-god-unheard-wales-v-22019824
Shit there's a lot of playing the victim in there!!!!
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Without a doubt the ref favoured the ABs. It wasn't a shocking performance, and didn't affect the outcome if the game, but we got the rub of the green over the course of the 80 minutes. That's rugby though, it's impossible for a ref to be perfectly even throughout the game, teams just have to be mentally strong enough to stick to their game and not let decisions that go against them throw them off.
@no-quarter said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Without a doubt the ref favoured the ABs. It wasn't a shocking performance, and didn't affect the outcome if the game, but we got the rub of the green over the course of the 80 minutes. That's rugby though, it's impossible for a ref to be perfectly even throughout the game, teams just have to be mentally strong enough to stick to their game and not let decisions that go against them throw them off.
No. The ref gave decisions to the dominating team.
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Haven’t read the whole thread but thought Ardie must have been up there for MOM did some really strong work in contact with defenders hanging off him
@nevorian said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Haven’t read the whole thread but thought Ardie must have been up there for MOM did some really strong work in contact with defenders hanging off him
He was real good - but the other forwards were all pretty good too
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@nostrildamus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I didn't read the game thread in real time. But post game I haven't really heard much talk about the ref. As it should be. I thought he had a decent game, of course the attitude of both teams probably made his day easier
Give it a few hours for the Welsh to wake up!
Read this then
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/my-god-unheard-wales-v-22019824
@jk said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@nostrildamus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I didn't read the game thread in real time. But post game I haven't really heard much talk about the ref. As it should be. I thought he had a decent game, of course the attitude of both teams probably made his day easier
Give it a few hours for the Welsh to wake up!
Read this then
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/my-god-unheard-wales-v-22019824
My humble advice to the Welsh Rugby team. Spend more of your energy on improving your fitness and your set piece, especially your line out. Waste less energy bleating at the ref. Fine and good for your captain to have a conversation with the officials, but if you all do it you are probably doing more harm than good and you look ridiculous.
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@jk said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@nostrildamus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I didn't read the game thread in real time. But post game I haven't really heard much talk about the ref. As it should be. I thought he had a decent game, of course the attitude of both teams probably made his day easier
Give it a few hours for the Welsh to wake up!
Read this then
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/my-god-unheard-wales-v-22019824
My humble advice to the Welsh Rugby team. Spend more of your energy on improving your fitness and your set piece, especially your line out. Waste less energy bleating at the ref. Fine and good for your captain to have a conversation with the officials, but if you all do it you are probably doing more harm than good and you look ridiculous.
@sparky said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@jk said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@nostrildamus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I didn't read the game thread in real time. But post game I haven't really heard much talk about the ref. As it should be. I thought he had a decent game, of course the attitude of both teams probably made his day easier
Give it a few hours for the Welsh to wake up!
Read this then
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/my-god-unheard-wales-v-22019824
My humble advice to the Welsh Rugby team. Spend more of your energy on improving your fitness and your set piece, especially your line out. Waste less energy bleating at the ref. Fine and good for your captain to have a conversation with the officials, but if you all do it you are probably doing more harm than good and you look ridiculous.
Will file this one
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@jk said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@nostrildamus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I didn't read the game thread in real time. But post game I haven't really heard much talk about the ref. As it should be. I thought he had a decent game, of course the attitude of both teams probably made his day easier
Give it a few hours for the Welsh to wake up!
Read this then
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/my-god-unheard-wales-v-22019824
My humble advice to the Welsh Rugby team. Spend more of your energy on improving your fitness and your set piece, especially your line out. Waste less energy bleating at the ref. Fine and good for your captain to have a conversation with the officials, but if you all do it you are probably doing more harm than good and you look ridiculous.
@sparky said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@jk said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@nostrildamus said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@canefan said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
I didn't read the game thread in real time. But post game I haven't really heard much talk about the ref. As it should be. I thought he had a decent game, of course the attitude of both teams probably made his day easier
Give it a few hours for the Welsh to wake up!
Read this then
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/my-god-unheard-wales-v-22019824
My humble advice to the Welsh Rugby team. Spend more of your energy on improving your fitness and your set piece, especially your line out. Waste less energy bleating at the ref. Fine and good for your captain to have a conversation with the officials, but if you all do it you are probably doing more harm than good and you look ridiculous.
Funny thing was, they looked great going into the half. Held their own. At one stage we had 2 in the bin, so it wasn't like we had it all our own way. They just ran out of gas
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The reason why Barrett wasn't yc'd is cos the ref has seen you tube Beauden Barrett god mode
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The reason why Barrett wasn't yc'd is cos the ref has seen you tube Beauden Barrett god mode
@berniescorner said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
The reason why Barrett wasn't yc'd is cos the ref has seen you tube Beauden Barrett god mode
Yes and because he he had already done it successfully once. He did it again as well of course and that attempt wasn’t far away.
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@berniescorner said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
The reason why Barrett wasn't yc'd is cos the ref has seen you tube Beauden Barrett god mode
Yes and because he he had already done it successfully once. He did it again as well of course and that attempt wasn’t far away.
@snowy said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@berniescorner said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
The reason why Barrett wasn't yc'd is cos the ref has seen you tube Beauden Barrett god mode
Yes and because he he had already done it successfully once. He did it again as well of course and that attempt wasn’t far away.
And the fact that ALB (IIRC?) was just steps from tackling the runner if he had actually been allowed to catch the pass hence no YC. I've seen blatant knock downs, this looked like a genuine attempt and BB has form. But ill-timed and the rules are the rules
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@catogrande said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@tim said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
@mikethesnow said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
YC against Jordie for me and the thousands in attendance
:grinning_squinting_face:
Oh come on.
So please explain why you and the ref thought otherwise
The rationale was that Adams had gone past the ball and was not in a position to catch it, whereas Barrett was running on to the ball and was in a position to catch it. IMO that rationale stands up
Worst decision for me was no yellow for the other Barrett’s deliberate knock on. Can understand the no penalty try but not to card him was spineless.
Sort of agree, but he scored two trys from doing the same thing and almost did it again there. Wasn’t a slap down.
Yeah, I don’t think he was being cynical but he was a world away from catching it. A deliberate action that resulted in a knock on. What makes it a yellow for me rather than just a penalty is that it would likely have provided Wales with a significant advantage deep into NZ territory.
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Yeah, I don’t think he was being cynical but he was a world away from catching it. A deliberate action that resulted in a knock on. What makes it a yellow for me rather than just a penalty is that it would likely have provided Wales with a significant advantage deep into NZ territory.
@catogrande said in Wales v All Blacks 30th Oct NH Tour:
Yeah, I don’t think he was being cynical but he was a world away from catching it. A deliberate action that resulted in a knock on. What makes it a yellow for me rather than just a penalty is that it would likely have provided Wales with a significant advantage deep into NZ territory.
I see merit in your reasoning. But the French have a big ledger to clear with us
