Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF)
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Talking to some Cantabs after the game about the lineout lifting. Seemed odd to see such a difference tonite. Well done Norris and Dyer.
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@duluth said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@hooroo said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
I know a few cantab fans that think R Thorne is a hopeless coach
They aren't shit they've just dipped back into the middle of the first division pack.
As for blaming Thorne? Plenty of Cantab ferners have been doing that too. The problem is the season before he took over wasn't great either (6 wins 5 losses)
Since Canterbury lost to Auckland in the 2018 final they've gone 15 wins and 16 losses
The rise of Ta$man to being the premiere team in the Crusaders region is the main reason IMO. Although I'm happy to throw shit at Rueben Thorne too
No Thorne is shit.
As soon as Razor went to the Crusaders the coaching selection has been poor,From Maddocks forward.The CRFU have lost the plot over the last 3 years.
@chris said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@duluth said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@hooroo said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
I know a few cantab fans that think R Thorne is a hopeless coach
They aren't shit they've just dipped back into the middle of the first division pack.
As for blaming Thorne? Plenty of Cantab ferners have been doing that too. The problem is the season before he took over wasn't great either (6 wins 5 losses)
Since Canterbury lost to Auckland in the 2018 final they've gone 15 wins and 16 losses
The rise of Ta$man to being the premiere team in the Crusaders region is the main reason IMO. Although I'm happy to throw shit at Rueben Thorne too
No Thorne is shit.
I agree. However that doesn't explain the decline starting the year before he took over.
The talent on the roster has fallen back to the pack. Coincidentally Ta$man built the strongest roster over the same period
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@yeetyaah said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
Question is if Roe and Dickinson are now both injured, who's Waikato's 4th choice halfback?
It depends on who is in camp. Ben Strang might be, as he played for Waikato in the pre-season but was injured in the Chiefs U20 game. Tell Ta$man to fly Noah Hotham up.
And @Hooroo and any other Waikato fans outside of L3 should get along next Sat night.
@bovidae said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@yeetyaah said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
Question is if Roe and Dickinson are now both injured, who's Waikato's 4th choice halfback?
It depends on who is in camp. Ben Strang might be, as he played for Waikato in the pre-season but was injured in the Chiefs U20 game. Tell Ta$man to fly Noah Hotham up.
And @Hooroo and any other Waikato fans outside of L3 should get along next Sat night.
Yeah we are going.
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@chris said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@duluth said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@hooroo said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
I know a few cantab fans that think R Thorne is a hopeless coach
They aren't shit they've just dipped back into the middle of the first division pack.
As for blaming Thorne? Plenty of Cantab ferners have been doing that too. The problem is the season before he took over wasn't great either (6 wins 5 losses)
Since Canterbury lost to Auckland in the 2018 final they've gone 15 wins and 16 losses
The rise of Ta$man to being the premiere team in the Crusaders region is the main reason IMO. Although I'm happy to throw shit at Rueben Thorne too
No Thorne is shit.
I agree. However that doesn't explain the decline starting the year before he took over.
The talent on the roster has fallen back to the pack. Coincidentally Ta$man built the strongest roster over the same period
@duluth said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@chris said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@duluth said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@hooroo said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
I know a few cantab fans that think R Thorne is a hopeless coach
They aren't shit they've just dipped back into the middle of the first division pack.
As for blaming Thorne? Plenty of Cantab ferners have been doing that too. The problem is the season before he took over wasn't great either (6 wins 5 losses)
Since Canterbury lost to Auckland in the 2018 final they've gone 15 wins and 16 losses
The rise of Ta$man to being the premiere team in the Crusaders region is the main reason IMO. Although I'm happy to throw shit at Rueben Thorne too
No Thorne is shit.
I agree. However that doesn't explain the decline starting the year before he took over.
The talent on the roster has fallen back to the pack. Coincidentally Ta$man built the strongest roster over the same period
some of the problem was Joe Maddocks the coach before Thorne his selections were poor and a few players who went to school in canterbury left to get a chance elsewhere.Diluting the depth.
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@chris said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@duluth said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@hooroo said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
I know a few cantab fans that think R Thorne is a hopeless coach
They aren't shit they've just dipped back into the middle of the first division pack.
As for blaming Thorne? Plenty of Cantab ferners have been doing that too. The problem is the season before he took over wasn't great either (6 wins 5 losses)
Since Canterbury lost to Auckland in the 2018 final they've gone 15 wins and 16 losses
The rise of Ta$man to being the premiere team in the Crusaders region is the main reason IMO. Although I'm happy to throw shit at Rueben Thorne too
No Thorne is shit.
I agree. However that doesn't explain the decline starting the year before he took over.
The talent on the roster has fallen back to the pack. Coincidentally Ta$man built the strongest roster over the same period
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@tim said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@nzzp Didn't specify, but I assume so.
Will be a lot of Ab's missing if thats the case
Crusaders have 11 on the tour I presume Scott Barrett would be available having missed the NH Tour.
Blues have 9
Chiefs have 10 not counting DMac who will be in Japan
Canes have 6
Highlanders with Smith have 3 -
Doesn't Mo'unga's long absence from SR at the beginning from SR Pacific have to do with him still be owed parental leave? He has hardly had any, unlike Whitelock. Smith in the same boat as RM.
@stargazer said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
Doesn't Mo'unga's long absence from SR at the beginning from SR Pacific have to do with him still be owed parental leave? He has hardly had any, unlike Whitelock. Smith in the same boat as RM.
He had 6 weeks off played on August 14th 2nd Wallabies test and returned 27 th September.To Australia for the 2nd SA test.
I doubt RM would want that long away from playing.
Finishing 21st November and not playing again until the middle of April. -
@stargazer said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
Doesn't Mo'unga's long absence from SR at the beginning from SR Pacific have to do with him still be owed parental leave? He has hardly had any, unlike Whitelock. Smith in the same boat as RM.
He had 6 weeks off played on August 14th 2nd Wallabies test and returned 27 th September.To Australia for the 2nd SA test.
I doubt RM would want that long away from playing.
Finishing 21st November and not playing again until the middle of April. -
@chris Wasn't most of that before his son was born?
Edit: don't know anyway. I was just wondering.
@stargazer said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@chris Wasn't most of that before his son was born?
Edit: don't know anyway. I was just wondering.
No he had 3 weeks at home with his Son.
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@chris Wasn't most of that before his son was born?
Edit: don't know anyway. I was just wondering.
@stargazer said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@chris Wasn't most of that before his son was born?
Edit: don't know anyway. I was just wondering.
I hear it’s for a big chunk of the AB,s will miss 4 to 6 weeks.
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@stargazer said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@chris Wasn't most of that before his son was born?
Edit: don't know anyway. I was just wondering.
No he had 3 weeks at home with his Son.
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@stargazer said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@chris If all ABs are absent for so long, then that will be ruining SRP again.
Yes agree it will wreck SR probably help the Aussie teams massively.
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@duluth we just aren’t that good. Surprised we even made the semis this year. Some goodish players but we lack chemistry and a bit of class too.
Lots to work on and hopefully we see a bit more development.
@act-crusader said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@duluth we just aren’t that good. Surprised we even made the semis this year. Some goodish players but we lack chemistry and a bit of class too.
Lots to work on and hopefully we see a bit more development.
I agree. Some goodish players and some potential. But the squad is nothing special.. I think a few people haven’t noticed the change in quality (particularly the Sky commentators)
Not a bad side though
A losing SF isn’t a bad outcome given the resources
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@act-crusader said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
@duluth we just aren’t that good. Surprised we even made the semis this year. Some goodish players but we lack chemistry and a bit of class too.
Lots to work on and hopefully we see a bit more development.
I agree. Some goodish players and some potential. But the squad is nothing special.. I think a few people haven’t noticed the change in quality (particularly the Sky commentators)
Not a bad side though
A losing SF isn’t a bad outcome given the resources
@duluth said in Waikato v Canterbury (Premiership SF):
I agree. Some goodish players and some potential. But the squad is nothing special.. I think a few people haven’t noticed the change in quality (particularly the Sky commentators)
the quality of rugby analysis and insight in the commentating teams is woeful.
