Wales v Australia
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There's no doubt Wales got just about every 50/50 call, the Tomkins try included.
The worst call, though, was the collapsed maul turnover in about the 55th minute. A clear Wallaby penalty, with a case for a YC and maybe even a PT. And yet he somehow missed our ball carrier being dragged down from behind by a player not bound to the maul. Aggregious.
I was impressed with our heart, and ability to score tries with 14 men. It was a loss on the scoreboard but nowhere else.
@barbarian said in Wales v Australia:
There's no doubt Wales got just about every 50/50 call, the Tomkins try included.
The worst call, though, was the collapsed maul turnover in about the 55th minute. A clear Wallaby penalty, with a case for a YC and maybe even a PT. And yet he somehow missed our ball carrier being dragged down from behind by a player not bound to the maul. Aggregious.
I was impressed with our heart, and ability to score tries with 14 men. It was a loss on the scoreboard but nowhere else.
Do you mean aggressively egregious or is this another word I have to learn?
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@barbarian said in Wales v Australia:
There's no doubt Wales got just about every 50/50 call, the Tomkins try included.
The worst call, though, was the collapsed maul turnover in about the 55th minute. A clear Wallaby penalty, with a case for a YC and maybe even a PT. And yet he somehow missed our ball carrier being dragged down from behind by a player not bound to the maul. Aggregious.
I was impressed with our heart, and ability to score tries with 14 men. It was a loss on the scoreboard but nowhere else.
Do you mean aggressively egregious or is this another word I have to learn?
@nostrildamus that's exactly what I mean. Obviously.
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Exciting game, Wales lucky, well played Aus.
Can't believe thay anyone is questioning the red card. Clearly dangerous and poor technique. Absolutely stonewall.
The Tompinks try was also undoubtedly the right decision, but incrediblely flukey for Wales, if it had gone a few inches the other way it would have been a penalty and quite possibly a yellow.
I've had a gutsful of the Aussie commentators (and I'm including Mehrts in that) ragging on the referees for every decision that goes against the Wallabies. Claiming that the Valentini card couldn't have been foul play because there was no intent, and the ref had a "howler" in correctly judging the known down went back. Don't be like South Africa guys.
To be fair the folks in the studio were pretty reasonable (Turanui, Plank and the Wallaroo whose name I didn't catch)
@gibbon-rib It's not just the Aussie commentators complaining about the referees though. It's everyone. Complaints are coming from all quarters.
Rennie alluded to a WR apology being issued for a shit decision in the Scotland/Aus game. The reffing quality is just terrible.
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@gibbon-rib It's not just the Aussie commentators complaining about the referees though. It's everyone. Complaints are coming from all quarters.
Rennie alluded to a WR apology being issued for a shit decision in the Scotland/Aus game. The reffing quality is just terrible.
@derpus said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib It's not just the Aussie commentators complaining about the referees though. It's everyone. Complaints are coming from all quarters.
Rennie alluded to a WR apology being issued for a shit decision in the Scotland/Aus game. The reffing quality is just terrible.
Well I'm not denying that there are problems with refereeing. But when everyone is moaning about referees all the time, including when they unquestionably got the decision right, then it just creates the perception that the problem is far worse than it really is. The whole victim/ siege mentality thing that the South Africans have going on is grim.
WR need to sort out the inconsistency between hemispheres, and the interminable video replays (among other things). But it would be good if commentators and coaches could meet them half way and stop moaning about every decision that goes against them.
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Watching back now.
Beale's yellow card is due to the actions of the home broadcaster and nobody else.
Ref called a scrum.
Broadcaster puts up a replay for the crowd to blow up at. Ref changes his decision on review.
Was it the right decision? Maybe. Beale is just close enough to be a tackler, but also looking at the ball.
Is it foul play? Not according to the officials in real time. So four match officials haven't seen it.
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Watching back now.
Beale's yellow card is due to the actions of the home broadcaster and nobody else.
Ref called a scrum.
Broadcaster puts up a replay for the crowd to blow up at. Ref changes his decision on review.
Was it the right decision? Maybe. Beale is just close enough to be a tackler, but also looking at the ball.
Is it foul play? Not according to the officials in real time. So four match officials haven't seen it.
@nta said in Wales v Australia:
Watching back now.
Beale's yellow card is due to the actions of the home broadcaster and nobody else.
Ref called a scrum.
Broadcaster puts up a replay for the crowd to blow up at. Ref changes his decision on review.
Was it the right decision? Maybe. Beale is just close enough to be a tackler, but also looking at the ball.
Is it foul play? Not according to the officials in real time. So four match officials haven't seen it.
That's another thing that needs to be fixed - it's crazy that the broadcaster can influence the outcome of the game
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@derpus said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib It's not just the Aussie commentators complaining about the referees though. It's everyone. Complaints are coming from all quarters.
Rennie alluded to a WR apology being issued for a shit decision in the Scotland/Aus game. The reffing quality is just terrible.
Well I'm not denying that there are problems with refereeing. But when everyone is moaning about referees all the time, including when they unquestionably got the decision right, then it just creates the perception that the problem is far worse than it really is. The whole victim/ siege mentality thing that the South Africans have going on is grim.
WR need to sort out the inconsistency between hemispheres, and the interminable video replays (among other things). But it would be good if commentators and coaches could meet them half way and stop moaning about every decision that goes against them.
@gibbon-rib I dunno. Maybe it's overblown a bit but if it's everyone then i think it's pretty certain there is a problem.
I did think that Rennie only unloaded because of the wrist slap that Rassie got for his bullshit. He's clearly not going to be censured for a post match complaint if Rassie gets away with that video.
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Exciting game, Wales lucky, well played Aus.
Can't believe thay anyone is questioning the red card. Clearly dangerous and poor technique. Absolutely stonewall.
The Tompinks try was also undoubtedly the right decision, but incrediblely flukey for Wales, if it had gone a few inches the other way it would have been a penalty and quite possibly a yellow.
I've had a gutsful of the Aussie commentators (and I'm including Mehrts in that) ragging on the referees for every decision that goes against the Wallabies. Claiming that the Valentini card couldn't have been foul play because there was no intent, and the ref had a "howler" in correctly judging the known down went back. Don't be like South Africa guys.
To be fair the folks in the studio were pretty reasonable (Turanui, Plank and the Wallaroo whose name I didn't catch)
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
To be fair the folks in the studio were pretty reasonable (Turanui, Plank and the Wallaroo whose name I didn't catch)
OK, I may need to revise this, in the post-match wrap up Morgan Turinui just said Wales are a well prepared team
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@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
To be fair the folks in the studio were pretty reasonable (Turanui, Plank and the Wallaroo whose name I didn't catch)
OK, I may need to revise this, in the post-match wrap up Morgan Turinui just said Wales are a well prepared team
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
@gibbon-rib said in Wales v Australia:
To be fair the folks in the studio were pretty reasonable (Turanui, Plank and the Wallaroo whose name I didn't catch)
OK, I may need to revise this, in the post-match wrap up Morgan Turinui just said Wales are a well prepared team
No wonder you got angry!
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Rugby should only be transmitted in SD, using blurry cam then we'd miss all the ref howlers like the good old days
@machpants said in Wales v Australia:
Rugby should only be transmitted in SD, using blurry cam then we'd miss all the ref howlers like the good old days
Or, alternatively, you could see as many as you want - viewers choice
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Anyone else thing White was lucky not to be done for holding on for his try?
Looked to me like he was tackled short and then launched himself rather than simply reaching out.
@kiwimurph given the reffing bias its a minor miracle it wasn't chalked off.
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@kiwimurph given the reffing bias its a minor miracle it wasn't chalked off.
@derpus said in Wales v Australia:
@kiwimurph given the reffing bias its a minor miracle it wasn't chalked off.
Rassie really has poisoned the well
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Anyone else thing White was lucky not to be done for holding on for his try?
Looked to me like he was tackled short and then launched himself rather than simply reaching out.
@kiwimurph No, he clearly went with his momentum and reached out, as he's legally allowed to do.
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Thomas very lucky not to be red carded.
A deliberate knock down is fine if it doesn't go forward?
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Anyone else thing White was lucky not to be done for holding on for his try?
Looked to me like he was tackled short and then launched himself rather than simply reaching out.
@kiwimurph said in Wales v Australia:
Anyone else thing White was lucky not to be done for holding on for his try?
Looked to me like he was tackled short and then launched himself rather than simply reaching out.
Was actually my first instinct, given the officials had missed so much.
Honestly, how the fuck could ALL FOUR OF THEM miss the collar tackle Wright put in down the sideline?
Forget the big incidents - the amount of little shit that the ref's assessor will be noting down from this game for all of them...
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Wallabies coach Dave Rennie fumed about the officiating. “I thought some of the decision making tonight was horrendous, and played a big part in the result,” he said post-match.
“We’ll get an apology next week but it wont mean anything..
“I’ve been a professional coach for 20 years, and I’ve never gone in the media and had a crack at a referee or the referee group. But I felt I had to tonight.” -
Wallabies coach Dave Rennie fumed about the officiating. “I thought some of the decision making tonight was horrendous, and played a big part in the result,” he said post-match.
“We’ll get an apology next week but it wont mean anything..
“I’ve been a professional coach for 20 years, and I’ve never gone in the media and had a crack at a referee or the referee group. But I felt I had to tonight.”@act-crusader first I've heard that a ref can make Rennie bloody angry.
