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Blues v Chiefs

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    #241

    https://twitter.com/bluesrugbyteam/status/1499993683865010179?s=21

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    • Dan54D Dan54

      @kiwimurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

      @dan54 said in Blues v Chiefs:

      Josh Ioane is showing why it was probably a mistake to come nort to get more gametime, he has had one good game, but looks a way from being an AB 10 tonight.

      Holy overreaction batman.

      Better for him to be starting than playing 12 or on the bench ala Landers.

      Not sure he will be starting after this week, Gatland has been better ar 10. But do you think Ipane is pushing claims for Black jersey?

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      @dan54 said in Blues v Chiefs:

      @kiwimurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

      @dan54 said in Blues v Chiefs:

      Josh Ioane is showing why it was probably a mistake to come nort to get more gametime, he has had one good game, but looks a way from being an AB 10 tonight.

      Holy overreaction batman.

      Better for him to be starting than playing 12 or on the bench ala Landers.

      Not sure he will be starting after this week, Gatland has been better ar 10. But do you think Ipane is pushing claims for Black jersey?

      Gatland came on at he 47th minute and we scored one more try - off a scrum due to work from PGS and Weber. He's just not a great 10 with ball in hand and doesn't suit our uptempo game.

      Previous to that, our best try came from a move where Ioane used his wide passing game to help make the space for ENS.

      Anyway, I'm much much happier with Joane there than Gatland, even though he7s got a few things to work on.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @dan54 said in Blues v Chiefs:

        @kiwimurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

        @dan54 said in Blues v Chiefs:

        Josh Ioane is showing why it was probably a mistake to come nort to get more gametime, he has had one good game, but looks a way from being an AB 10 tonight.

        Holy overreaction batman.

        Better for him to be starting than playing 12 or on the bench ala Landers.

        Not sure he will be starting after this week, Gatland has been better ar 10. But do you think Ipane is pushing claims for Black jersey?

        I thought he was pushing his claims in week 1.

        Obviously a step back this week. His 2nd game.

        Going back to Gatland would be short-sighted - Ioane needs to clean up his errors but Gatland is a limited player who won't win you anything.

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        @kiwimurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

        @dan54 said in Blues v Chiefs:

        @kiwimurph said in Blues v Chiefs:

        @dan54 said in Blues v Chiefs:

        Josh Ioane is showing why it was probably a mistake to come nort to get more gametime, he has had one good game, but looks a way from being an AB 10 tonight.

        Holy overreaction batman.

        Better for him to be starting than playing 12 or on the bench ala Landers.

        Not sure he will be starting after this week, Gatland has been better ar 10. But do you think Ipane is pushing claims for Black jersey?

        I thought he was pushing his claims in week 1.

        Obviously a step back this week. His 2nd game.

        Going back to Gatland would be short-sighted - Ioane needs to clean up his errors but Gatland is a limited player who won't win you anything.

        Yep I thought he went well in week 1, and perhaps that's his problem he got a higher ceiling, but perhaps his lesser game is worse and maybe comes out a bit more often than others?

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        • Billy TellB Offline
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          Do we still think Retallick & Whitelock is our best pairing? Thought Goodhue for the Blues and Lord for the chiefs were better than Brodie.

          BB had a bit of a stinker off the bench.

          Another enjoyable game.

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          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

            Do we still think Retallick & Whitelock is our best pairing? Thought Goodhue for the Blues and Lord for the chiefs were better than Brodie.

            BB had a bit of a stinker off the bench.

            Another enjoyable game.

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            #245

            @billy-tell Early days for All Blacks preparing for a long season.

            We do need new locks though.

            Honestly, I can't see either of them doing shit in 2023. Retallick is a shadow of the player he used to be. It would be good to drop him and Whitelock this year and just get it over with. Retallick made one good strip, but otherwise looked no better or behind Romano and Goodhue.

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            • TimT Offline
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              #246

              The Blues rapid attack plan is supported by their forwards, but the skill level of their backs cannot keep up with it. So many opportunities wasted. I really hope they click, because it would be something new that would break the defensive patterns that dominate now open.

              Maybe when Beauden Barrett is back to his best?

              Otherwise, despite lacking their big ball carrying second row from last year being missing, they should probably go back to grinding teams down in the forwards and kicking for field position.

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              • TimT Offline
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                Tim
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                Akira Ioane cannot come back soon enough.

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                  Someone needs to explain to Josh Ioane that if his touch finders can end up in the stands he can direct them down field for more distance.
                  They’d still be over the hoardings but 15 metres further on.
                  The balance on the bench was wrong for the Chiefs and they paid the price. Blues knew exactly where to attack.

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                    #249

                    Has this been mentioned elsewhere? Couldn't find it.

                    Looks like Blues need a new 12 already.

                    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2022/03/super-rugby-pacific-blues-star-roger-tuivasa-sheck-suffers-serious-shoulder-injury-in-win-over-chiefs.html

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                    • TimT Tim

                      @billy-tell Early days for All Blacks preparing for a long season.

                      We do need new locks though.

                      Honestly, I can't see either of them doing shit in 2023. Retallick is a shadow of the player he used to be. It would be good to drop him and Whitelock this year and just get it over with. Retallick made one good strip, but otherwise looked no better or behind Romano and Goodhue.

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                      @tim said in Blues v Chiefs:

                      Retallick made one good strip

                      was that the one off Romano that lead to Webbers first try? I thought that could have been penalised as Romano was 'tackled'

                      Blues still need to work on decision making when the heat is on though, several poor decisions in that final quarter almost handed the game away.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        Tiaitia is a player you bring off the bench when you are chasing a game and need a spark. Canes fans should remember that when he played for the Chiefs at the Caketin and ignited that comeback win.

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                        @bovidae said in Blues v Chiefs:

                        Tiaitia is a player you bring off the bench when you are chasing a game and need a spark. Canes fans should remember that when he played for the Chiefs at the Caketin and ignited that comeback win.

                        I think you're right.

                        I also think 12 is his best position now. That's where he's played his best rugby for BOP the last couple of years, but he's not going to get much game time there at the Chiefs.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          The Blues rapid attack plan is supported by their forwards, but the skill level of their backs cannot keep up with it. So many opportunities wasted. I really hope they click, because it would be something new that would break the defensive patterns that dominate now open.

                          Maybe when Beauden Barrett is back to his best?

                          Otherwise, despite lacking their big ball carrying second row from last year being missing, they should probably go back to grinding teams down in the forwards and kicking for field position.

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                          @tim said in Blues v Chiefs:

                          The Blues rapid attack plan is supported by their forwards, but the skill level of their backs cannot keep up with it. So many opportunities wasted. I really hope they click, because it would be something new that would break the defensive patterns that dominate now open.

                          Maybe when Beauden Barrett is back to his best?

                          Otherwise, despite lacking their big ball carrying second row from last year being missing, they should probably go back to grinding teams down in the forwards and kicking for field position.

                          This is my vote for post of the year, 100% totally agree. This is what I was screaming at the TV, keep it tight and don't waste the ball to early with the backs.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @tim said in Blues v Chiefs:

                            Retallick made one good strip

                            was that the one off Romano that lead to Webbers first try? I thought that could have been penalised as Romano was 'tackled'

                            Blues still need to work on decision making when the heat is on though, several poor decisions in that final quarter almost handed the game away.

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                            @taniwharugby said in Blues v Chiefs:

                            @tim said in Blues v Chiefs:

                            Retallick made one good strip

                            was that the one off Romano that lead to Webbers first try? I thought that could have been penalised as Romano was 'tackled'

                            Blues still need to work on decision making when the heat is on though, several poor decisions in that final quarter almost handed the game away.

                            Thought the exact thing too. Tackled player and defending player still playing the ball is a penalty all day.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @taniwharugby said in Blues v Chiefs:

                              @tim said in Blues v Chiefs:

                              Retallick made one good strip

                              was that the one off Romano that lead to Webbers first try? I thought that could have been penalised as Romano was 'tackled'

                              Blues still need to work on decision making when the heat is on though, several poor decisions in that final quarter almost handed the game away.

                              Thought the exact thing too. Tackled player and defending player still playing the ball is a penalty all day.

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                              @act-crusader said in Blues v Chiefs:

                              @taniwharugby said in Blues v Chiefs:

                              @tim said in Blues v Chiefs:

                              Retallick made one good strip

                              was that the one off Romano that lead to Webbers first try? I thought that could have been penalised as Romano was 'tackled'

                              Blues still need to work on decision making when the heat is on though, several poor decisions in that final quarter almost handed the game away.

                              Thought the exact thing too. Tackled player and defending player still playing the ball is a penalty all day.

                              I thought he was really lucky.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @billy-tell Early days for All Blacks preparing for a long season.

                                We do need new locks though.

                                Honestly, I can't see either of them doing shit in 2023. Retallick is a shadow of the player he used to be. It would be good to drop him and Whitelock this year and just get it over with. Retallick made one good strip, but otherwise looked no better or behind Romano and Goodhue.

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                                @tim I Agree. It will never happen though but with 2 years to go at least one of them needs to be dropped to develop another lock.

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                                  Blues post match press conference

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