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Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @steven-harris said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

    How gutsy is this MP team ..?..playing only there 3rd ever game , no ball , no field position , heavly penalised , 2 yellow cards …Canes 80% possession plus ..7 all incredible …this is shit you cant coach ..as someone said imagine if they had a scrum ..?

    They should have had more yellow cards tbh.

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    taniwharugby
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    @canes4life canes should just play smarter and they'd be well ahead.

    As to the head clash card, the rules around that are poor, players adapting to these poor rules that have been about for ages is poor.

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      MP with a set piece and a few better ball players would be interesting.

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        The following quote from Chris Gibbes in the below article suggests a few players are making their return this weekend: "The guys are fit and healthy and we have some guys coming back from long-term injuries too, so, we're in a pretty good space," he said.

        From their Instagram: TJ Perenara, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Tei Walden, Scott Scrafton and Cam Roigard all look to be training fairly freely so we might see some OR all of them suit up for MP on Friday.

        Bad news is that it looked like Devan Flanders was doing a light workout with the injured duo of Owen Franks and Tyler Laubscher, hopefully nothing too serious.

        https://www.allblacks.com/news/hurricanes-keen-to-get-back-into-the-groove-against-moana-pasifika/?msclkid=44c5b76da97a11ec91262765c683ab37

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        @canes4life said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

        The following quote from Chris Gibbes in the below article suggests a few players are making their return this weekend: "The guys are fit and healthy and we have some guys coming back from long-term injuries too, so, we're in a pretty good space," he said.

        From their Instagram: TJ Perenara, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Tei Walden, Scott Scrafton and Cam Roigard all look to be training fairly freely so we might see some OR all of them suit up for MP on Friday.

        Bad news is that it looked like Devan Flanders was doing a light workout with the injured duo of Owen Franks and Tyler Laubscher, hopefully nothing too serious.

        https://www.allblacks.com/news/hurricanes-keen-to-get-back-into-the-groove-against-moana-pasifika/?msclkid=44c5b76da97a11ec91262765c683ab37

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @derpus said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

          @nepia yeah that's why it was mitigated down.

          Yet some on this thread are calling for a red card.

          @dice said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

          I don't think I've seen this many big hits in a Super game and it's just the 1st half.

          Do you remember some of the Blues v Canes games back in the day (when the Canes weren't complete villains 😉 ). They'd score a crazy amount of points but there'd be huge hits going too.

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          @nepia said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

          @derpus said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

          @nepia yeah that's why it was mitigated down.

          Yet some on this thread are calling for a red card.

          That's how it's being applied in the NH. Pointing this out doesn't mean people agree with the direction the governing body has taken.

          That people think such a tackle in 2022 shouldn't merit a card at all is fucking baffling.

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            MP have been one of the best for taking advantage of 50/22s

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @nepia said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

              @derpus said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

              @nepia yeah that's why it was mitigated down.

              Yet some on this thread are calling for a red card.

              That's how it's being applied in the NH. Pointing this out doesn't mean people agree with the direction the governing body has taken.

              That people think such a tackle in 2022 shouldn't merit a card at all is fucking baffling.

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              @antipodean said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

              Pointing this out doesn't mean people agree with the direction the governing body has taken.

              Fair enough.

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              • WingerW Winger

                @canes4life said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                The following quote from Chris Gibbes in the below article suggests a few players are making their return this weekend: "The guys are fit and healthy and we have some guys coming back from long-term injuries too, so, we're in a pretty good space," he said.

                From their Instagram: TJ Perenara, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Tei Walden, Scott Scrafton and Cam Roigard all look to be training fairly freely so we might see some OR all of them suit up for MP on Friday.

                Bad news is that it looked like Devan Flanders was doing a light workout with the injured duo of Owen Franks and Tyler Laubscher, hopefully nothing too serious.

                https://www.allblacks.com/news/hurricanes-keen-to-get-back-into-the-groove-against-moana-pasifika/?msclkid=44c5b76da97a11ec91262765c683ab37

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                Canes need to start taking the points now. This team is limited and might struggle to win

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  The following quote from Chris Gibbes in the below article suggests a few players are making their return this weekend: "The guys are fit and healthy and we have some guys coming back from long-term injuries too, so, we're in a pretty good space," he said.

                  From their Instagram: TJ Perenara, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Tei Walden, Scott Scrafton and Cam Roigard all look to be training fairly freely so we might see some OR all of them suit up for MP on Friday.

                  Bad news is that it looked like Devan Flanders was doing a light workout with the injured duo of Owen Franks and Tyler Laubscher, hopefully nothing too serious.

                  https://www.allblacks.com/news/hurricanes-keen-to-get-back-into-the-groove-against-moana-pasifika/?msclkid=44c5b76da97a11ec91262765c683ab37

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @canes4life canes should just play smarter and they'd be well ahead.

                    As to the head clash card, the rules around that are poor, players adapting to these poor rules that have been about for ages is poor.

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                    @taniwharugby said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                    @canes4life canes should just play smarter and they'd be well ahead.

                    As to the head clash card, the rules around that are poor, players adapting to these poor rules that have been about for ages is poor.

                    Probably because the law application guidelines change about every other year.

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                      Sam Slade has been way better than I expected. Always thought he was too small for lock and too slow for six. He's been putting in some good collision work.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @nepia said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                          @derpus said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                          @nepia yeah that's why it was mitigated down.

                          Yet some on this thread are calling for a red card.

                          That's how it's being applied in the NH. Pointing this out doesn't mean people agree with the direction the governing body has taken.

                          That people think such a tackle in 2022 shouldn't merit a card at all is fucking baffling.

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                          @antipodean said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                          @nepia said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                          @derpus said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                          @nepia yeah that's why it was mitigated down.

                          Yet some on this thread are calling for a red card.

                          That's how it's being applied in the NH. Pointing this out doesn't mean people agree with the direction the governing body has taken.

                          That people think such a tackle in 2022 shouldn't merit a card at all is fucking baffling.

                          I love this conversation from the coms about how if the guy showed duty of care, he would have missed the tackle. Isn’t that exactly the point? Wouldn’t the game be better if defenders needed to have better technique or get a break?

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Sam Slade has been way better than I expected. Always thought he was too small for lock and too slow for six. He's been putting in some good collision work.

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                            @tim said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                            Sam Slade has been way better than I expected. Always thought he was too small for lock and too slow for six. He's been putting in some good collision work.

                            With both those attributes I'm surprised he doesn't have a Canes contract.

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @taniwharugby said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                              @canes4life canes should just play smarter and they'd be well ahead.

                              As to the head clash card, the rules around that are poor, players adapting to these poor rules that have been about for ages is poor.

                              Probably because the law application guidelines change about every other year.

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                              taniwharugby
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                              @stargazer what laws around head contact has been changed recently? Head contact has been a big deal for years now.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @stargazer what laws around head contact has been changed recently? Head contact has been a big deal for years now.

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                                @taniwharugby Not the laws. The law application guidelines. So the processes for interpreting and applying the laws.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @taniwharugby said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                                  @canes4life canes should just play smarter and they'd be well ahead.

                                  As to the head clash card, the rules around that are poor, players adapting to these poor rules that have been about for ages is poor.

                                  Probably because the law application guidelines change about every other year.

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                                  @stargazer said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                                  @taniwharugby said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                                  @canes4life canes should just play smarter and they'd be well ahead.

                                  As to the head clash card, the rules around that are poor, players adapting to these poor rules that have been about for ages is poor.

                                  Probably because the law application guidelines change about every other year.

                                  The framework came into play in 2019...

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                                  • Mr FishM Mr Fish

                                    @stargazer said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                                    @canes4life canes should just play smarter and they'd be well ahead.

                                    As to the head clash card, the rules around that are poor, players adapting to these poor rules that have been about for ages is poor.

                                    Probably because the law application guidelines change about every other year.

                                    The framework came into play in 2019...

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                                    Stargazer
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                                    @mr-fish And the new Head contact process in March 2021.

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                                    • DiceD Dice

                                      MP have been competitive in the 1st half in every game, but because they do so much defending because of discipline and setpiece issues, they don't have the energy to stay in the fight in the 2nd half.

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                                      @dice said in Moana Pasifika vs Hurricanes:

                                      MP have been competitive in the 1st half in every game, but because they do so much defending because of discipline and setpiece issues, they don't have the energy to stay in the fight in the 2nd half.

                                      A little more accuracy and discipline in their defence and they wouldn't make it so much easier for the opposition.

                                      If they stopped putting themselves under pressure they could win this.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @taniwharugby Not the laws. The law application guidelines. So the processes for interpreting and applying the laws.

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                                        @stargazer yes but that has been an issue with loads of rules, not just this.

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                                          Yellow all day

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