Chiefs vs Crusaders

shark

@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:

As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.

Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.

Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.

My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.

Your opinion is shot when you have Slater better than anyone.

Did you watch their contributions for Taranaki and Canterbury across the past few NPC seasons? Ask Neil Barnes about Slater's influence, meanwhile Klein was & forever has been anonymous for Canterbury since he started.

I'm going to say that Klein might have played 20 games, and many off the bench. Hardly a body of work worthy of that sort of insightful comment.

Chris

@shark said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:

As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.

Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.

Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.

My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.

Your opinion is shot when you have Slater better than anyone.

Did you watch their contributions for Taranaki and Canterbury across the past few NPC seasons? Ask Neil Barnes about Slater's influence, meanwhile Klein was & forever has been anonymous for Canterbury since he started.

I'm going to say that Klein might have played 20 games, and many off the bench. Hardly a body of work worthy of that sort of insightful comment.

Klein
Lucky to have played 20 when McAlister was fit.
I would say mostly cameos 10 or 15 min off the bench in his first year which I think was the 2019 season When he was just 20.

Dan54

@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:

As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.

Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.

Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.

My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.

Your opinion is shot when you have Slater better than anyone.

Have to say Crucial, I reckon Slater is a better hooker than you giving him credit for, well I personally reckon he not bad. He's not a test player or anything, but he not bad.

gt12

@mariner4life said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

it's testament to just how shit the Chiefs really are that, with an overwhelmingly better squad they needed to score in injury time to beat that Crusaders rubbish.

Obviously shit systems

Also, this is my favourite part

George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.

My favourite is Roe > Drummond, only because Drummond didn't play two weeks ago.

You look at the bench named for this week and you'd have to say that the Saders will finish far far stronger than last time.

KiwiMurph

@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

Roe > Drummond

Razor seems to rate Drummond quite highly as a bench 9.

From 2020

“I reckon he is the best finisher in world rugby off the bench, as a halfback,’’ Robertson said after the match.

Crucial

@dan54 said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:

As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.

Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.

Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.

My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.

Your opinion is shot when you have Slater better than anyone.

Have to say Crucial, I reckon Slater is a better hooker than you giving him credit for, well I personally reckon he not bad. He's not a test player or anything, but he not bad.

Yeah, but I fought hard for underdog status earlier in the thread and I’m not going to give it up easily

Dan54

@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@dan54 said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@crucial said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@kiwi_expat said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

I've been looking over the Chiefs side that pipped Crusaders at the death two weeks earlier:

As of current ability, form & age (Ross > Moody), Taylor < Taukei'aho, Newell < Ta'avao, Strange < Vaa'i, Retallick = Whitelock, Boshier < Blackadder, Cane > Christie, Matera < Gus Sowakula, Roe > Drummond, Gatland < Mo'unga, Nanai-Seturo < Fainga'anuku, Tupaea > Havili, Lienert-Brown > Ennor, Stevenson < Reece, Narawa < Jordan.

Replacements: Bradley Slater > Shilo Klein, Ollie Norris > Abraham Pole, George Dyer > journeyman Bower.

Naitoa Ah Kuoi > Dom Gardiner, Tom Florence < Cullen Grace, Bryn Hall < Cortez Ratima, Fergus Burke < Rameka Poihipi, George Bridge < Rivez Reihana.

My opinion is that in total 16/23 of that Chiefs team are superior players than their Crusader opposites.

Your opinion is shot when you have Slater better than anyone.

Have to say Crucial, I reckon Slater is a better hooker than you giving him credit for, well I personally reckon he not bad. He's not a test player or anything, but he not bad.

Yeah, but I fought hard for underdog status earlier in the thread and I’m not going to give it up easily

Lol feeding the old mocker gods mate??:face_with_tongue:

Crazy Horse

This is very confusing. Crusader players being talked up. I am on the Fern aren't I?

Old Samurai Jack

@crazy-horse Chiefs fans obviously have a real fear of being the favourites. They won the last one. Let's be honest, if the Chiefs don't win this comfortably, it will be a choke.:grinning_face_with_big_eyes:

Crucial

@old-samurai-jack said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@crazy-horse Chiefs fans obviously have a real fear of being the favourites. They won the last one. Let's be honest, if the Chiefs don't win this comfortably, it will be a choke.:grinning_face_with_big_eyes:

It's not a fear. It just makes the win all that sweeter.

Chris

covid hit Crusaders,Home ground advantage feral Chiefs fans in the stands,A Crusaders team apparently stacked with AB'S who shouldn't be ABs The worlds worst Winger.
Crusaders will be lucky to hold the Chiefs to 60 points if we lose by less than 30 its a win us.:downcast_face_with_sweat:

ARHS

Don't forget Chiefs lack of familiarity with the ground conditions. Ancient memory for them only.

Nepia

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

covid hit Crusaders,Home ground advantage feral Chiefs fans in the stands,A Crusaders team apparently stacked with AB'S who shouldn't be ABs The worlds worst Winger.
Crusaders will be lucky to hold the Chiefs to 60 points if we lose by less than 30 its a win us.:downcast_face_with_sweat:

Nice try, but you know all that is balanced out by the walking (and breakdancing) GOD among us.

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Chris

@nepia said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

covid hit Crusaders,Home ground advantage feral Chiefs fans in the stands,A Crusaders team apparently stacked with AB'S who shouldn't be ABs The worlds worst Winger.
Crusaders will be lucky to hold the Chiefs to 60 points if we lose by less than 30 its a win us.:downcast_face_with_sweat:

Nice try, but you know all that is balanced out by the walking (and breakdancing) GOD among us.

he has a bad back and can't breakdance ATM,So another factor against us.

Nepia

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@nepia said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

covid hit Crusaders,Home ground advantage feral Chiefs fans in the stands,A Crusaders team apparently stacked with AB'S who shouldn't be ABs The worlds worst Winger.
Crusaders will be lucky to hold the Chiefs to 60 points if we lose by less than 30 its a win us.:downcast_face_with_sweat:

Nice try, but you know all that is balanced out by the walking (and breakdancing) GOD among us.

he has a bad back and can't breakdance ATM,So another factor against us.

As a walking GOD he will still be able to out-dance Clayton McMillan's NZ 1990s male side shuffle dance.

There's already been a huge upset this weekend, their wont be two, the Crusaders by a bajillion. I'm not sure I'll even bother watching as it will be such a missmatch.

Chris

@nepia said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@nepia said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

covid hit Crusaders,Home ground advantage feral Chiefs fans in the stands,A Crusaders team apparently stacked with AB'S who shouldn't be ABs The worlds worst Winger.
Crusaders will be lucky to hold the Chiefs to 60 points if we lose by less than 30 its a win us.:downcast_face_with_sweat:

Nice try, but you know all that is balanced out by the walking (and breakdancing) GOD among us.

he has a bad back and can't breakdance ATM,So another factor against us.

As a walking GOD he will still be able to out-dance Clayton McMillan's NZ 1990s male side shuffle dance.

There's already been a huge upset this weekend, their wont be two, the Crusaders by a bajillion. I'm not sure I'll even bother watching as it will be such a missmatch.

Now you are trying tooooo Hard.

Nepia

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@nepia said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@nepia said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

covid hit Crusaders,Home ground advantage feral Chiefs fans in the stands,A Crusaders team apparently stacked with AB'S who shouldn't be ABs The worlds worst Winger.
Crusaders will be lucky to hold the Chiefs to 60 points if we lose by less than 30 its a win us.:downcast_face_with_sweat:

Nice try, but you know all that is balanced out by the walking (and breakdancing) GOD among us.

he has a bad back and can't breakdance ATM,So another factor against us.

As a walking GOD he will still be able to out-dance Clayton McMillan's NZ 1990s male side shuffle dance.

There's already been a huge upset this weekend, their wont be two, the Crusaders by a bajillion. I'm not sure I'll even bother watching as it will be such a missmatch.

Now you are trying tooooo Hard.

Hey pot.

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

covid hit Crusaders,Home ground advantage feral Chiefs fans in the stands,A Crusaders team apparently stacked with AB'S who shouldn't be ABs The worlds worst Winger.
Crusaders will be lucky to hold the Chiefs to 60 points if we lose by less than 30 its a win us.:downcast_face_with_sweat:

Chris

@nepia said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@nepia said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@nepia said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

covid hit Crusaders,Home ground advantage feral Chiefs fans in the stands,A Crusaders team apparently stacked with AB'S who shouldn't be ABs The worlds worst Winger.
Crusaders will be lucky to hold the Chiefs to 60 points if we lose by less than 30 its a win us.:downcast_face_with_sweat:

Nice try, but you know all that is balanced out by the walking (and breakdancing) GOD among us.

he has a bad back and can't breakdance ATM,So another factor against us.

As a walking GOD he will still be able to out-dance Clayton McMillan's NZ 1990s male side shuffle dance.

There's already been a huge upset this weekend, their wont be two, the Crusaders by a bajillion. I'm not sure I'll even bother watching as it will be such a missmatch.

Now you are trying tooooo Hard.

Hey pot.

@chris said in Chiefs vs Crusaders:

covid hit Crusaders,Home ground advantage feral Chiefs fans in the stands,A Crusaders team apparently stacked with AB'S who shouldn't be ABs The worlds worst Winger.
Crusaders will be lucky to hold the Chiefs to 60 points if we lose by less than 30 its a win us.:downcast_face_with_sweat:

Hey Kettle

Steven Harris

Brodie McAlister injured in the warm up

Hooroo

Rugby drought, biggest team in rugby turn up and you can’t even sell 3/4 of the stadium!

That’s fucking poke

The Silver Fern

Chiefs vs Crusaders