Highlanders v Force
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@chimoaus said in Highlanders v Force:
This again shows that cards ruin games. Just use a report system and replace the offending player.
I broadly agree and have called for that exact system (other than for acts of filth), but we can't blame the refs for applying the laws and guidelines as they've been instructed to do. This is the fault of the players and administrators.
Marshall opening his gob and needlessly giving us more evidence he's an imbecile doesn't change this. What his commentary does is actually breed contempt for the referee. His employers should be ashamed and censured by NZR.
@antipodean Yep totally agree, it's clear the players can't change overnight and highly unlikely anytime soon otherwise they would have already.
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@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
1870s to 2018
No it's not, but hey you go ahead. While we're at it, why are women voting?
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
1870s to 2018
No it's not, but hey you go ahead. While we're at it, why are women voting?
Name one example of a player red carded for a head clash before 2018.
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@Damo said in Highlanders v Force:
Tap and go guys.
Kick it out and they get 2 players back into the game.
Of course we don't even find touch. And it works out anyway.
I would have gone for scrum, almost all the force team had to be in the scrum!
@Machpants said in Highlanders v Force:
@Damo said in Highlanders v Force:
Tap and go guys.
Kick it out and they get 2 players back into the game.
Of course we don't even find touch. And it works out anyway.
I would have gone for scrum, almost all the force team had to be in the scrum!
I'm not sure but I think if they went for a scrum the YC guy would have come back on, as well as the guy who also went off because of the uncontested scrums.
Tap and go was the way to go. 15 against 12.
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
1870s to 2018
No it's not, but hey you go ahead. While we're at it, why are women voting?
Name one example of a player red carded for a head clash before 2018.
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
1870s to 2018
No it's not, but hey you go ahead. While we're at it, why are women voting?
Name one example of a player red carded for a head clash before 2018.
Name one example of a woman voting before women began voting.
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@chimoaus said in Highlanders v Force:
This again shows that cards ruin games. Just use a report system and replace the offending player.
I broadly agree and have called for that exact system (other than for acts of filth), but we can't blame the refs for applying the laws and guidelines as they've been instructed to do. This is the fault of the players and administrators.
Marshall opening his gob and needlessly giving us more evidence he's an imbecile doesn't change this. What his commentary does is actually breed contempt for the referee. His employers should be ashamed and censured by NZR.
@antipodean said in Highlanders v Force:
@chimoaus said in Highlanders v Force:
This again shows that cards ruin games. Just use a report system and replace the offending player.
I broadly agree and have called for that exact system (other than for acts of filth), but we can't blame the refs for applying the laws and guidelines as they've been instructed to do. This is the fault of the players and administrators.
Marshall opening his gob and needlessly giving us more evidence he's an imbecile doesn't change this. What his commentary does is actually breed contempt for the referee. His employers should be ashamed and censured by NZR.
I like Marshall, but gotta agree where you're coming from. Can't be hard for him to criticise a red/yellow card and explain the Ref is applying the guidelines and doesn't have much choice.
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@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Force:
So is an accident a red card these days. Fuck me rugby is turning into a shit show.
Ok Marshall.
@Bones because all these cards are so good for the game aye. It’s getting ridiculous.
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Watching de Groot closely in recent games he spends a lot of time sucking in big breaths, and on one knee or getting attention. He could be carrying an injury but I would question his fitness.
@Bovidae said in Highlanders v Force:
Watching de Groot closely in recent games he spends a lot of time sucking in big breaths, and on one knee or getting attention. He could be carrying an injury but I would question his fitness.
Good observation. I have noticed that as well. Now his shoulder looks gone.
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@Bones because all these cards are so good for the game aye. It’s getting ridiculous.
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones because all these cards are so good for the game aye. It’s getting ridiculous.
Ok Marshall.
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Enjoy the win Landers but just like with the Blues v Rebels & the Canes v Drua I don’t think much can be read into this game.
I will laugh if you knock over those Blues in a couple weeks.
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@Bones because all these cards are so good for the game aye. It’s getting ridiculous.
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones because all these cards are so good for the game aye. It’s getting ridiculous.
I agree there is a lot of cards... Players need to take some responsibility...
Because I can't see how knocking a player out cold due to your carelessness is good for the game?
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@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
1870s to 2018
No it's not, but hey you go ahead. While we're at it, why are women voting?
Name one example of a player red carded for a head clash before 2018.
Name one example of a woman voting before women began voting.
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
1870s to 2018
No it's not, but hey you go ahead. While we're at it, why are women voting?
Name one example of a player red carded for a head clash before 2018.
Name one example of a woman voting before women began voting.
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
1870s to 2018
No it's not, but hey you go ahead. While we're at it, why are women voting?
Name one example of a player red carded for a head clash before 2018.
Name one example of a woman voting before women began voting.
I don't think whether an accidental head clash should be a red card is as clear cut as whether men and women should have the same human rights.
My point is that you can't expect everyone to automatically adopt the same position at the same time. It's like how it was acceptable to be against gay marriage in 2005 but homophobic in 2010....it doesn't make sense. If someone was still against women voting now, that would be strange and we would just that person harshly. However, that was a reasonable position in the 1890s.
Besides, I was being kind saying 2018. I really could have used 2021 instead. Head clashes have only been a red card very recently. Just because you, and the sports administrators have reached that point this year, doesn't mean everyone who hasn't doesn't care about player safety or isn't knowledgeable.
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
1870s to 2018
No it's not, but hey you go ahead. While we're at it, why are women voting?
Name one example of a player red carded for a head clash before 2018.
Name one example of a woman voting before women began voting.
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
1870s to 2018
No it's not, but hey you go ahead. While we're at it, why are women voting?
Name one example of a player red carded for a head clash before 2018.
Name one example of a woman voting before women began voting.
I don't think whether an accidental head clash should be a red card is as clear cut as whether men and women should have the same human rights.
My point is that you can't expect everyone to automatically adopt the same position at the same time. It's like how it was acceptable to be against gay marriage in 2005 but homophobic in 2010....it doesn't make sense. If someone was still against women voting now, that would be strange and we would just that person harshly. However, that was a reasonable position in the 1890s.
Besides, I was being kind saying 2018. I really could have used 2021 instead. Head clashes have only been a red card very recently. Just because you, and the sports administrators have reached that point this year, doesn't mean everyone who hasn't doesn't care about player safety or isn't knowledgeable.
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
If someone was still against women voting now, that would be strange and we would just that person harshly. However, that was a reasonable position in the 1890s.
Bingo.
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@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones because all these cards are so good for the game aye. It’s getting ridiculous.
I agree there is a lot of cards... Players need to take some responsibility...
Because I can't see how knocking a player out cold due to your carelessness is good for the game?
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones because all these cards are so good for the game aye. It’s getting ridiculous.
I agree there is a lot of cards... Players need to take some responsibility...
Because I can't see how knocking a player out cold due to your carelessness is good for the game?
Well, these are the best players in the world. They are professionals with the best conditioning and coaches, and they have taken rugby to its highest ever level. Despite all that, they cannot comply with the demands of the officials and administrators.
I take a very different lesson from that than you.
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@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
If someone was still against women voting now, that would be strange and we would just that person harshly. However, that was a reasonable position in the 1890s.
Bingo.
@Bones said in Highlanders v Force:
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
If someone was still against women voting now, that would be strange and we would just that person harshly. However, that was a reasonable position in the 1890s.
Bingo.
Well, maybe one day people will say the fact that we allow people to play rugby is equivalent to not allowing women to vote. We don't know how people will view an accidental head clash being a red card in the future.
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@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones because all these cards are so good for the game aye. It’s getting ridiculous.
I agree there is a lot of cards... Players need to take some responsibility...
Because I can't see how knocking a player out cold due to your carelessness is good for the game?
Well, these are the best players in the world. They are professionals with the best conditioning and coaches, and they have taken rugby to its highest ever level. Despite all that, they cannot comply with the demands of the officials and administrators.
I take a very different lesson from that than you.
@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Force:
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Force:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Force:
@Bones because all these cards are so good for the game aye. It’s getting ridiculous.
I agree there is a lot of cards... Players need to take some responsibility...
Because I can't see how knocking a player out cold due to your carelessness is good for the game?
Well, these are the best players in the world. They are professionals with the best conditioning and coaches, and they have taken rugby to its highest ever level. Despite all that, they cannot comply with the demands of the officials and administrators.
I take a very different lesson from that than you.
There's no where near as many cards in NH, and their refs are maybe harsher. So I'd disagree with that premise
