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Blues v Canes

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    Donsteppa
    wrote on last edited by
    #64

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="563985" data-time="1457683033"><p>as was the knock before...<br>
     <br>
    But yeah the Blues have been shite.</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    Yep, <br><br>
    Dumb arse #1 flies into a ruck with his shoulder<br>
    Dumb arse #2 plays the opposition in the air at the resulting lineout<br><br>
    If you're then having to find the tiniest of possible knock ons in slow mo to save you from a try, then you're in for a season as long as the non-scrumming Chiefs.

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    • No QuarterN Offline
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      No Quarter
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      #65

      That was bizzare logic from the refs and comms. A lot of things look good in real time. Obvious knock on.<br><br>
      Awesome no-try from Li, man that kid has wheels.

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      • CrucialC Offline
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        Crucial
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        #66

        Don't get me wrong. I have long advocated for all rulings to be in real time but if you are going to frame by frame the grounding of a ball I don't see why a knock on gets different treatment.

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        • taniwharugbyT Offline
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          taniwharugby
          wrote on last edited by
          #67

          <p>dunno, the comms in this game used it, then the TMO did in awarding the try...?</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>Agree, do not use slow mo if you are using 'real time' as the measure, am sure Sky would prefer that as they wouldnt need to do it in HD</p>

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          • DonsteppaD Offline
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            Donsteppa
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            #68

            Maybe I'm being a dinosaur, but my first thought was that the Canes "knock on" would always have been a try in the pre-TMO era.

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            • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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              kiwiinmelb
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              #69

              Blues look better when they get their pick and drive going

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              • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                taniwharugby
                wrote on last edited by
                #70

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="563988" data-time="1457683245">
                <div>
                <p>If you're then having to find the tiniest of possible knock ons in slow mo to save you from a try, then you're in for a season as long as the non-scrumming Chiefs.</p>
                </div>
                </blockquote>
                <p> </p>
                <p>??</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>It isnt about saving anything, a small knock on is the same as a big knock on, still a knock on.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>You just want decisions correct and consistent, and that is apparently what the technology is there for.</p>

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                • H Offline
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                  hydro11
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                  #71

                  <p>The Hurricanes one was 50/50. The Blues one was clearly forward. You can disagree with the decisions made but they weren't analogous.</p>

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                  • CrucialC Offline
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                    Crucial
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #72

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="563988" data-time="1457683245"><p>Yep, <br><br>
                    Dumb arse #1 flies into a ruck with his shoulder<br>
                    Dumb arse #2 plays the opposition in the air at the resulting lineout<br><br>
                    If you're then having to find the tiniest of possible knock ons in slow mo to save you from a try, then you're in for a season as long as the non-scrumming Chiefs.</p></blockquote>
                    <br>
                    I'm neutral in this. The Blues have been crap at times but I am commenting only on the incident in question, not looking for excuses. <br>
                    That knock on was clear and obvious in slomo. That's how it should have been called.

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                    • CrucialC Offline
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                      Crucial
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #73

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="563992" data-time="1457683343"><p>Maybe I'm being a dinosaur, but my first thought was that the Canes "knock on" would always have been a try in the pre-TMO era.</p></blockquote>
                      As would plenty of non given tries in the modern era.

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                      • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                        taniwharugby
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #74

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="563995" data-time="1457683459">
                        <div>
                        <p>The Hurricanes one was 50/50. The Blues one was clearly forward. You can disagree with the decisions made but they weren't analogous.</p>
                        </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>canes one wasnt 50/50 definte knock on...Blues one looked 51/49 in real time, clearly forward on replay</p>

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                        • CrucialC Offline
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                          Crucial
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #75

                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="563995" data-time="1457683459"><p>The Hurricanes one was 50/50. The Blues one was clearly forward. You can disagree with the decisions made but they weren't analogous.</p></blockquote>
                          <br>
                          What was 50/50 about it?

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                            hydro11
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #76

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="563998" data-time="1457683559">
                            <div>
                            <p>canes one wasnt 50/50 definte knock on...Blues one looked 51/49 in real time, clearly forward on replay</p>
                            </div>
                            </blockquote>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>Nah. Blues was forward in any time. Hurricanes was a knock on in slow mo but not in real time.</p>

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                            • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                              taniwharugby
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #77

                              <p>West gets Blues within a score...now the 'real time' try becomes more 'controversial'</p>

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                                hydro11
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                                #78

                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="563999" data-time="1457683599">
                                <div>
                                <p>What was 50/50 about it?</p>
                                </div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <p>If we are using real time it was a try. If we use slow mo it wasn't. Blues was forward in any time.</p>

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                                • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                                  taniwharugby
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #79

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="564000" data-time="1457683647">
                                  <div>
                                  <p>Nah. Blues was forward in any time. Hurricanes was a knock on in slow mo but not in real time.</p>
                                  </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>agree to disagree, thought it was a knock on on first viewing</p>

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                                    hydro11
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                                    #80

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="564003" data-time="1457683685">
                                    <div>
                                    <p>agree to disagree, thought it was a knock on on first viewing</p>
                                    </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <p>Then your complaint isn't about real time or slow mo at all. You are complaining that the referee used real time footage incorrectly.</p>

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                                    • CrucialC Offline
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                                      Crucial
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                                      #81

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="564002" data-time="1457683677"><p>If we are using real time it was a try. If we use slow mo it wasn't. Blues was forward in any time.</p></blockquote>
                                      <br>
                                      Which means it was 100% a knock on. You just couldn't see it clearly in real time.

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                                      • TimT Offline
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                                        Tim
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #82

                                        That penalty was bullshit. Never let him release the ball.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                                          taniwharugby
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #83

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="564005" data-time="1457683798">
                                          <div>
                                          <p>Then your complaint isn't about real time or slow mo at all. You are complaining that the referee used real time footage incorrectly.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>referee didnt use it, the way he questions the TMO he thought it was a knock, but went with the TMO ruling.</p>

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