SF Crusaders v Chiefs
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@Frank said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
QT does not look to be much more than a bash merchant with a not particularly good passing game.
After today, Havili looks to have the AB 12 position nailed on. :fishing_pole:
(In all seriousness, I thought his D today was really, really good)
@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Frank said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
QT does not look to be much more than a bash merchant with a not particularly good passing game.
After today, Havili looks to have the AB 12 position nailed on. :fishing_pole:
(In all seriousness, I thought his D today was really, really good)
I'm not looking for a bite, but I assumed he was off the field for most of the match after his HIA/injury. It was only when he did that one really good punt, and TJ pumped one out over him, that I realised he was on the field.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Frank said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
QT does not look to be much more than a bash merchant with a not particularly good passing game.
After today, Havili looks to have the AB 12 position nailed on. :fishing_pole:
(In all seriousness, I thought his D today was really, really good)
I'm not looking for a bite, but I assumed he was off the field for most of the match after his HIA/injury. It was only when he did that one really good punt, and TJ pumped one out over him, that I realised he was on the field.
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@Frank said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
QT does not look to be much more than a bash merchant with a not particularly good passing game.
After today, Havili looks to have the AB 12 position nailed on. :fishing_pole:
(In all seriousness, I thought his D today was really, really good)
@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Frank said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
QT does not look to be much more than a bash merchant with a not particularly good passing game.
After today, Havili looks to have the AB 12 position nailed on. :fishing_pole:
(In all seriousness, I thought his D today was really, really good)
Missed 13% of tackles attempted. Equal third worst in the Crusaders.
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I just thought his defence when he came back was really good. Agree rest of his play pretty average.
@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
I just thought his defence when he came back was really good. Agree rest of his play pretty average.
I didn't notice him so can't really comment.
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I think Jordan answered any questions about his defence in this game. He was superb.
Taukei'aho carried 24 times. 33% more than anyone else in the Chiefs. Clearly the best hooker in New Zealand.
Goodhue was very accurate too.
@antipodean said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
Taukei'aho carried 24 times. 33% more than anyone else in the Chiefs. Clearly the best hooker in New Zealand.
Does he have any weaknesses? Line-outs seemed accurate, but a genuine question as I'm ignorant on front-row stuff.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
I just thought his defence when he came back was really good. Agree rest of his play pretty average.
I didn't notice him so can't really comment.
@Nepia said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
I just thought his defence when he came back was really good. Agree rest of his play pretty average.
I didn't notice him so can't really comment.
If he were a tight-forward, that would be a compliment. But he isn't.
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@antipodean said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
Taukei'aho carried 24 times. 33% more than anyone else in the Chiefs. Clearly the best hooker in New Zealand.
Does he have any weaknesses? Line-outs seemed accurate, but a genuine question as I'm ignorant on front-row stuff.
@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@antipodean said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
Taukei'aho carried 24 times. 33% more than anyone else in the Chiefs. Clearly the best hooker in New Zealand.
Does he have any weaknesses? Line-outs were accurate but a genuine question as I'm ignorant on front-row stuff.
I'm as ignorant on front row stuff as any other attractive individual, but he looks superb all over the paddock. Can even throw into a lineout.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Frank said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
QT does not look to be much more than a bash merchant with a not particularly good passing game.
After today, Havili looks to have the AB 12 position nailed on. :fishing_pole:
(In all seriousness, I thought his D today was really, really good)
Missed 13% of tackles attempted. Equal third worst in the Crusaders.
@antipodean said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Frank said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
QT does not look to be much more than a bash merchant with a not particularly good passing game.
After today, Havili looks to have the AB 12 position nailed on. :fishing_pole:
(In all seriousness, I thought his D today was really, really good)
Missed 13% of tackles attempted. Equal third worst in the Crusaders.
In true Fern tradition, I stand corrected.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@antipodean said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
Taukei'aho carried 24 times. 33% more than anyone else in the Chiefs. Clearly the best hooker in New Zealand.
Does he have any weaknesses? Line-outs were accurate but a genuine question as I'm ignorant on front-row stuff.
I'm as ignorant on front row stuff as any other attractive individual, but he looks superb all over the paddock. Can even throw into a lineout.
@antipodean said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@antipodean said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
Taukei'aho carried 24 times. 33% more than anyone else in the Chiefs. Clearly the best hooker in New Zealand.
Does he have any weaknesses? Line-outs were accurate but a genuine question as I'm ignorant on front-row stuff.
I'm as ignorant on front row stuff as any other attractive individual, but he looks superb all over the paddock. Can even throw into a lineout.
Yep. I like his directness and motor. He'll be nailed-on 1st choice 2 at this rate.
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@antipodean said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Frank said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
QT does not look to be much more than a bash merchant with a not particularly good passing game.
After today, Havili looks to have the AB 12 position nailed on. :fishing_pole:
(In all seriousness, I thought his D today was really, really good)
Missed 13% of tackles attempted. Equal third worst in the Crusaders.
In true Fern tradition, I stand corrected.
@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@antipodean said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Frank said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
QT does not look to be much more than a bash merchant with a not particularly good passing game.
After today, Havili looks to have the AB 12 position nailed on. :fishing_pole:
(In all seriousness, I thought his D today was really, really good)
Missed 13% of tackles attempted. Equal third worst in the Crusaders.
In true Fern tradition, I stand corrected.
Full disclosure: Stats aren't mine, I just selectively quote those that agree with my biases.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@antipodean said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Frank said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
QT does not look to be much more than a bash merchant with a not particularly good passing game.
After today, Havili looks to have the AB 12 position nailed on. :fishing_pole:
(In all seriousness, I thought his D today was really, really good)
Missed 13% of tackles attempted. Equal third worst in the Crusaders.
In true Fern tradition, I stand corrected.
Full disclosure: Stats aren't mine, I just selectively quote those that agree with my biases.
@antipodean said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@antipodean said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Victor-Meldrew said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Frank said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
QT does not look to be much more than a bash merchant with a not particularly good passing game.
After today, Havili looks to have the AB 12 position nailed on. :fishing_pole:
(In all seriousness, I thought his D today was really, really good)
Missed 13% of tackles attempted. Equal third worst in the Crusaders.
In true Fern tradition, I stand corrected.
Full disclosure: Stats aren't mine, I just selectively quote those that agree with my biases.
Spoken like a true politician.
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@kiwi_expat said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Machpants said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
Fuck me that defence, ABs take notice please
Razor's coaching of defensive ruck work & the breakdown in general is second to none, the Crusader's actions without the ball on defense is the reason I wanted him as All Black coach after Hansen departed in 2019. Wayne Smith was our latest defensive guru in NZ's golden run between 2010-2016 & ever since then we've been lacking an effective brickwall defense and innovative ruck & breakdown play - these are both areas that Razor has outstanding knowledge & expertise in. Ray can lead us back to WC glory.
Big credit also to the crusaders defensive coach Tamati Ellison, He has brought a hardness to the D line.
@Chris said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@kiwi_expat said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Machpants said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
Fuck me that defence, ABs take notice please
Razor's coaching of defensive ruck work & the breakdown in general is second to none, the Crusader's actions without the ball on defense is the reason I wanted him as All Black coach after Hansen departed in 2019. Wayne Smith was our latest defensive guru in NZ's golden run between 2010-2016 & ever since then we've been lacking an effective brickwall defense and innovative ruck & breakdown play - these are both areas that Razor has outstanding knowledge & expertise in. Ray can lead us back to WC glory.
Big credit also to the crusaders defensive coach Tamati Ellison, He has brought a hardness to the D line.
ESPN stated the Crusaders made 254 tackles to the Chiefs 114, as well as having just 35 percent possession.
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@Chris said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@kiwi_expat said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Machpants said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
Fuck me that defence, ABs take notice please
Razor's coaching of defensive ruck work & the breakdown in general is second to none, the Crusader's actions without the ball on defense is the reason I wanted him as All Black coach after Hansen departed in 2019. Wayne Smith was our latest defensive guru in NZ's golden run between 2010-2016 & ever since then we've been lacking an effective brickwall defense and innovative ruck & breakdown play - these are both areas that Razor has outstanding knowledge & expertise in. Ray can lead us back to WC glory.
Big credit also to the crusaders defensive coach Tamati Ellison, He has brought a hardness to the D line.
ESPN stated the Crusaders made 254 tackles to the Chiefs 114, as well as having just 35 percent possession.
@kiwi_expat said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@kiwi_expat said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Machpants said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
Fuck me that defence, ABs take notice please
Razor's coaching of defensive ruck work & the breakdown in general is second to none, the Crusader's actions without the ball on defense is the reason I wanted him as All Black coach after Hansen departed in 2019. Wayne Smith was our latest defensive guru in NZ's golden run between 2010-2016 & ever since then we've been lacking an effective brickwall defense and innovative ruck & breakdown play - these are both areas that Razor has outstanding knowledge & expertise in. Ray can lead us back to WC glory.
Big credit also to the crusaders defensive coach Tamati Ellison, He has brought a hardness to the D line.
ESPN stated the Crusaders made 254 tackles to the Chiefs 114, as well as having just 35 percent possession.
Seems about right a hell of a defensive performance with those stats.
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Grace esp., Havili, Jordan, and Barrett absolutely outstanding for the good guys. The odd touch of class from Mounga sealed the game.
For the filth, I think ST was awesome (as always) and Ross played himself into the ABs. Ross gave the Crusaders scrum the old, "How is your father?" when he was on. It wasn't the Chief's tight five that let them down, they matched the Crusaders.
After his impact, do you start Newell against the big boys? -
I didn’t get to watch the game but are we talking about Newell who « had a mare » against the reds? Should be starting ahead of jäger imo.
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Meh. Well done Sith.
Great D.
Dumb attack by Chiefies.
Some calls early marginally in Sith's favour (QT YC could have gone penalty only, Matera could have gone Red ... btw second YC was straight red ... but little difference). And a couple of others I can't remember.
What the FUCK was PGS doing when he did everything he could not to score? Fucking seriously.
Otherwise hats off to the Saders.
@booboo said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
What the FUCK was PGS doing when he did everything he could not to score? Fucking seriously.
Massive guy, try line in front of him, defender not in front of him, ponders his options and decides to look for a pass inside. Very strange.
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@FakatavaFuture said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
Sometimes you should just point to posts not sure why Brad didn't
Yeah that was just dumb. I assume it must have been the tactics going into the game, but they should have changed them especially when they weren't getting the tries.
@KiwiPie said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
@booboo said in SF Crusaders v Chiefs:
What the FUCK was PGS doing when he did everything he could not to score? Fucking seriously.
Massive guy, try line in front of him, defender not in front of him, ponders his options and decides to look for a pass inside. Very strange.
I'm still getting angry thinking about that.
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Big games from a Crusader viewpoint by Grace, Barrett and good work of the bench from McAlister,Newell,Williams and Strange
Mounga,Jordan, Havilli were very good
Ennor and Bridge good of the bench.Chiefs
ST,
Tao’Vai
Vaa’iWere the best I thought
@Chris But there are those who are still creaming their jeans over BBBR and Cane. Vaai was better than BBBR and Cane participated. Not AB captain material any more. Chiefs let down by an inept 1st five who can’t make anything happen by himself so it puts pressure on anyone outside him. McKenzie would have been an interesting addition not taking anything away from the Crusaders.
