The Bay v Northland
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what other way should it be?
@mariner4life In most competitions I've watched the logic is 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3 etc across conferences. I.e. In the current table it would be Wellington vs Ta$man, Canterbury vs Otago etc.
That way you likely get some opponents that haven't previously met - and help guard against the distortion of one strong conference, one weak one.
But, NZ Rugby has notoriously fucked up logic in almost all its competitions.
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@Chris-B I was surprised. But I guess the logic is to find the top 2 teams in each conference then play across conferences
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@mariner4life In most competitions I've watched the logic is 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3 etc across conferences. I.e. In the current table it would be Wellington vs Ta$man, Canterbury vs Otago etc.
That way you likely get some opponents that haven't previously met - and help guard against the distortion of one strong conference, one weak one.
But, NZ Rugby has notoriously fucked up logic in almost all its competitions.
@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
@mariner4life In most competitions I've watched the logic is 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3 etc across conferences. I.e. In the current table it would be Wellington vs Ta$man, Canterbury vs Otago etc.
That way you likely get some opponents that haven't previously met - and help guard against the distortion of one strong conference, one weak one.
But, NZ Rugby has notoriously fucked up logic in almost all its competitions.
it should be inside your conference until GF time, otherwise what is the point of the conferences?
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@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
@mariner4life In most competitions I've watched the logic is 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3 etc across conferences. I.e. In the current table it would be Wellington vs Ta$man, Canterbury vs Otago etc.
That way you likely get some opponents that haven't previously met - and help guard against the distortion of one strong conference, one weak one.
But, NZ Rugby has notoriously fucked up logic in almost all its competitions.
it should be inside your conference until GF time, otherwise what is the point of the conferences?
@mariner4life said in The Bay v Northland:
@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
@mariner4life In most competitions I've watched the logic is 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3 etc across conferences. I.e. In the current table it would be Wellington vs Ta$man, Canterbury vs Otago etc.
That way you likely get some opponents that haven't previously met - and help guard against the distortion of one strong conference, one weak one.
But, NZ Rugby has notoriously fucked up logic in almost all its competitions.
it should be inside your conference until GF time, otherwise what is the point of the conferences?
Really?
Where were you when we had those heavily slanted national Super rugby conferences?
Since the conferences are just odds and evens from last year, I presume they'll get juggled next year, so there is (and will be) zero history like NFL.
And to compound things - I gather they switch to cross conference for the semis anywayl
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@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
@mariner4life In most competitions I've watched the logic is 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3 etc across conferences. I.e. In the current table it would be Wellington vs Ta$man, Canterbury vs Otago etc.
That way you likely get some opponents that haven't previously met - and help guard against the distortion of one strong conference, one weak one.
But, NZ Rugby has notoriously fucked up logic in almost all its competitions.
it should be inside your conference until GF time, otherwise what is the point of the conferences?
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@mariner4life said in The Bay v Northland:
@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
@mariner4life In most competitions I've watched the logic is 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3 etc across conferences. I.e. In the current table it would be Wellington vs Ta$man, Canterbury vs Otago etc.
That way you likely get some opponents that haven't previously met - and help guard against the distortion of one strong conference, one weak one.
But, NZ Rugby has notoriously fucked up logic in almost all its competitions.
it should be inside your conference until GF time, otherwise what is the point of the conferences?
Really?
Where were you when we had those heavily slanted national Super rugby conferences?
Since the conferences are just odds and evens from last year, I presume they'll get juggled next year, so there is (and will be) zero history like NFL.
And to compound things - I gather they switch to cross conference for the semis anywayl
@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
Where were you when we had those heavily slanted national Super rugby conferences?
trying to explain how conferences work to bitter kiwis
the dumbest thing is having 8 of 14 teams make finals. should be 6.
i am pretty sure the only reason you are making a thing out of this is because you would prefer the South Central Vikings to not have to Chch in week 1. So transparent
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@mariner4life As far as I can see, the only point of the conferences is to avoid playing a full round robin.
@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
@mariner4life As far as I can see, the only point of the conferences is to avoid playing a full round robin.
cut Southland and Manawatu (no one would miss them but their half a dozen fans) and play a round robin
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@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
Where were you when we had those heavily slanted national Super rugby conferences?
trying to explain how conferences work to bitter kiwis
the dumbest thing is having 8 of 14 teams make finals. should be 6.
i am pretty sure the only reason you are making a thing out of this is because you would prefer the South Central Vikings to not have to Chch in week 1. So transparent
@mariner4life No, no, no.
I make a thing out of it because the fluffybunny who organized competitions for NZ Rugby was so sleepy that for 10 years he didn't understand that the competition structure was enabling some teams to dodge giving Ta$man a Shield challenge.
And because the Super competition structure was fucking hopeless and unfair.
And because Andy Marinos is on the news tonight claiming that revenue structures are unfair. Andy didn't seem to comprehend the definition or practice of unfair back in the Super days, so I'm paying him no mind!
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@mariner4life No, no, no.
I make a thing out of it because the fluffybunny who organized competitions for NZ Rugby was so sleepy that for 10 years he didn't understand that the competition structure was enabling some teams to dodge giving Ta$man a Shield challenge.
And because the Super competition structure was fucking hopeless and unfair.
And because Andy Marinos is on the news tonight claiming that revenue structures are unfair. Andy didn't seem to comprehend the definition or practice of unfair back in the Super days, so I'm paying him no mind!
@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
@mariner4life No, no, no.
I make a thing out of it because the fluffybunny who organized competitions for NZ Rugby was so sleepy that for 10 years he didn't understand that the competition structure was enabling some teams to dodge giving Ta$man a Shield challenge.
And because the Super competition structure was fucking hopeless and unfair.
And because Andy Marinos is on the news tonight claiming that revenue structures are unfair. Andy didn't seem to comprehend the definition or practice of unfair back in the Super days, so I'm paying him no mind!
holy shit do you do press releases for Rugby Australia?
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@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
@mariner4life No, no, no.
I make a thing out of it because the fluffybunny who organized competitions for NZ Rugby was so sleepy that for 10 years he didn't understand that the competition structure was enabling some teams to dodge giving Ta$man a Shield challenge.
And because the Super competition structure was fucking hopeless and unfair.
And because Andy Marinos is on the news tonight claiming that revenue structures are unfair. Andy didn't seem to comprehend the definition or practice of unfair back in the Super days, so I'm paying him no mind!
holy shit do you do press releases for Rugby Australia?
@mariner4life GFY!
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pick your MOTM from the stunning upset win over The Bay
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/5607/northland-motm-v-the-bay
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pick your MOTM from the stunning upset win over The Bay
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/5607/northland-motm-v-the-bay
@taniwharugby said in The Bay v Northland:
pick your MOTM from the stunning upset win over The Bay
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/5607/northland-motm-v-the-bay
Mike Delaney for his selections
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@taniwharugby said in The Bay v Northland:
pick your MOTM from the stunning upset win over The Bay
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/5607/northland-motm-v-the-bay
Mike Delaney for his selections
@bayimports said in The Bay v Northland:
@taniwharugby said in The Bay v Northland:
pick your MOTM from the stunning upset win over The Bay
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/5607/northland-motm-v-the-bay
Mike Delaney for his selections
Sounds like a good afternoon to have been out of town with work after all...!
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@mariner4life said in The Bay v Northland:
@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
@mariner4life In most competitions I've watched the logic is 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3 etc across conferences. I.e. In the current table it would be Wellington vs Ta$man, Canterbury vs Otago etc.
That way you likely get some opponents that haven't previously met - and help guard against the distortion of one strong conference, one weak one.
But, NZ Rugby has notoriously fucked up logic in almost all its competitions.
it should be inside your conference until GF time, otherwise what is the point of the conferences?
Really?
Where were you when we had those heavily slanted national Super rugby conferences?
Since the conferences are just odds and evens from last year, I presume they'll get juggled next year, so there is (and will be) zero history like NFL.
And to compound things - I gather they switch to cross conference for the semis anywayl
@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
@mariner4life said in The Bay v Northland:
@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
@mariner4life In most competitions I've watched the logic is 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3 etc across conferences. I.e. In the current table it would be Wellington vs Ta$man, Canterbury vs Otago etc.
That way you likely get some opponents that haven't previously met - and help guard against the distortion of one strong conference, one weak one.
But, NZ Rugby has notoriously fucked up logic in almost all its competitions.
it should be inside your conference until GF time, otherwise what is the point of the conferences?
Really?
Where were you when we had those heavily slanted national Super rugby conferences?
Since the conferences are just odds and evens from last year, I presume they'll get juggled next year, so there is (and will be) zero history like NFL.
And to compound things - I gather they switch to cross conference for the semis anywayl
I have absolutely no problems with the conferences , perhaps agree with Mariner only 6 needed on finals, but all in all I think it works,generally as in most comps, the best teams win anyway. I always thought even the old super system, though a bit unfair on who had home finals etc, still ended up with best team winning anyway, and that's the point of a comp in my opinion.
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I have seen the first 60 minutes of this game so far and for the first time I watched Reihana. I thought he showed he has the tools to be a pretty handy 10. He is solidly built, seems to have time on the ball, has one of the bigger kicks on him, has a passing game, and seems to a have a running game too. A bit of a worry seeing his left knee strapped, hopefully it's nothing chronic.
Would like to see him get some opportunities next year at Super level to see what he can do the next level up.
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@Duluth Just watched the replay. at the ground it looked like Matich lost the ball short of the goal-line. Could not understand why they did not show any relevant angles on the replay. But, we were worried it would be deemed a penalty try and yellow card - even though the tackler had little choice on how it ended up. So, I think it was a bad call, but a fair result.
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I have seen the first 60 minutes of this game so far and for the first time I watched Reihana. I thought he showed he has the tools to be a pretty handy 10. He is solidly built, seems to have time on the ball, has one of the bigger kicks on him, has a passing game, and seems to a have a running game too. A bit of a worry seeing his left knee strapped, hopefully it's nothing chronic.
Would like to see him get some opportunities next year at Super level to see what he can do the next level up.
@Crazy-Horse I think the biggest thing for him this year is consistent game time at 10, previously for us he has been chopped and changed between 10 and 15 and the bench.
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@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
@mariner4life said in The Bay v Northland:
@Chris-B said in The Bay v Northland:
@mariner4life In most competitions I've watched the logic is 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3 etc across conferences. I.e. In the current table it would be Wellington vs Ta$man, Canterbury vs Otago etc.
That way you likely get some opponents that haven't previously met - and help guard against the distortion of one strong conference, one weak one.
But, NZ Rugby has notoriously fucked up logic in almost all its competitions.
it should be inside your conference until GF time, otherwise what is the point of the conferences?
Really?
Where were you when we had those heavily slanted national Super rugby conferences?
Since the conferences are just odds and evens from last year, I presume they'll get juggled next year, so there is (and will be) zero history like NFL.
And to compound things - I gather they switch to cross conference for the semis anywayl
I have absolutely no problems with the conferences , perhaps agree with Mariner only 6 needed on finals, but all in all I think it works,generally as in most comps, the best teams win anyway. I always thought even the old super system, though a bit unfair on who had home finals etc, still ended up with best team winning anyway, and that's the point of a comp in my opinion.
@Dan54 I don't have any great problem with these conferences - just seems a bit odd that the quarters are played in conference, but the semis are not. It's not logical.
History shows that home advantage is massive in Super rugby. Slanted conferences gave a big advantage to - basically, the strongest Australian team.
