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Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final

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  • RoninWCR RoninWC

    Why the fuck you go for 3 points when Holmes missed the conversion from a very similar spot when an attacking lineout made the most sense?

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    @RoninWC said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

    Why the fuck you go for 3 points when Holmes missed the conversion from a very similar spot when an attacking lineout made the most sense?

    Yes. There were times when a kick to the corner was the best option but Cocksedge was determined to tap and go. Poor.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      If the BFs want to play a high tempo game how about picking halfbacks who can pass the ball with some speed and width, and not spend all night kicking aimlessly.

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      @Bovidae said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

      If the BFs want to play a high tempo game how about picking halfbacks who can pass the ball with some speed and width, and not spend all night kicking aimlessly.

      Amen to that.

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        They are showing the highlights and when we kick / grubber ahead we split their line and their players are clearly at different speeds but we don't seem to return to that tactic even though they obviously had trouble with it..they weren't so good on the scramble IMHO..

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          Roos was huge. Kendra needs to know when to speed it up and when not to.

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            Not one question from Kirstie to Ruahei about the 2nd half tactics ..

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              What are our chances against England?

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              @Canes4life said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

              What are our chances against England?

              Starters chance.

              Two horse race.

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                The kick returns were awful too. We had France in a V at one stage and whoever it was, stood and waited for them to form a straight line, then ran straight into them.

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @Canes4life said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

                  What are our chances against England?

                  Starters chance.

                  Two horse race.

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                  @booboo said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

                  @Canes4life said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

                  What are our chances against England?

                  Starters chance.

                  Two horse race.

                  I think we have at least a 50:50 chance. At home, team confident and with a wily coach. England are the better team but there's a lot going for us.

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                    taniwharugby
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                    Was alot of panicked passing at times too, to go with the poor decision making, some calmer heads and that wouldn't have been close

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                      Just watched second half on delay. Picture quality was horrid for first 20. Tough to watch.
                      Well done girls. Sarah Hirini has unbelievable ticker. Luka Conner and Krystal Murray were awesome too. The Bremners went well. But somehow the work at rucks was not up to scratch.
                      I don't get how you can play with such a lack of kicking capability. Demant has no depth and Holmes seems inconsistent. Why on earth is Hazel Tubic not there to have us playing in the right part of the field more? Big calls for the coaches for next week?

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                      • DamoD Damo

                        @booboo said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

                        @Canes4life said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

                        What are our chances against England?

                        Starters chance.

                        Two horse race.

                        I think we have at least a 50:50 chance. At home, team confident and with a wily coach. England are the better team but there's a lot going for us.

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                        @Damo Hirini agrees with you.

                        https://twitter.com/ScrumQueens/status/1588814350764371969

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                          Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
                          I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
                          It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
                          Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
                          Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.

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                            Thought the ref got the big calls right. In the mens game they would have been reds but without the force of impact in Women’s game good calls.

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                              Thought the ref got the big calls right. In the mens game they would have been reds but without the force of impact in Women’s game good calls.

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                              @kev The most important thing was that both decisions were consistent. Not one red and the other yellow.

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                                Very different to mens rugby in that there is lots more execution errors , no criticism intended but it has a bit of a school boy rugby element to it ,

                                But you just got to go again and go again until you get there

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                                  England will be interested in watching that game again.
                                  Do we have a forwards coach? A little practice on ruck and ball security (and poaching at the lineout) might be a good idea..

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                                    Smith and Hansen will need to spend all week working on body height and support for the cleaners. France got players over the ball (not always legally) but England will flood the breakdown and counter-ruck. The BFs need to be more pragmatic in their own 22 and not risk running it every time.

                                    The choice of ref will also be important. I'd much prefer Barrett-Theron than Neville but it might be Davidson or even Groizeleau.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Smith and Hansen will need to spend all week working on body height and support for the cleaners. France got players over the ball (not always legally) but England will flood the breakdown and counter-ruck. The BFs need to be more pragmatic in their own 22 and not risk running it every time.

                                      The choice of ref will also be important. I'd much prefer Barrett-Theron than Neville but it might be Davidson or even Groizeleau.

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                                      @Bovidae said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

                                      The BFs need to be more pragmatic in their own 22 and not risk running it every time.

                                      Works against the other teams, but not Eng and Fra

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
                                        I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
                                        It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
                                        Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
                                        Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.

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                                        @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

                                        Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
                                        I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
                                        It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
                                        Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
                                        Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.

                                        I loved that game. Thought the skill level was great.

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
                                          I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
                                          It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
                                          Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
                                          Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.

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                                          @Crucial said in Black Ferns v France, RWC Semi Final:

                                          Just enjoy the game and result and stop analysing everything. Save it for the early hours and the fat jokes.
                                          I know we can’t help it with the ABs but how about leaving this area of the game to enjoy things?
                                          It’s why I didn’t even open the thread during the match.
                                          Check out that crowd. ABs might get more people but that was one of the best rugby crowds I have seen in NZ for enjoying being there and supporting.
                                          Awesome days rugby. Both games had tension, skill, mistakes and players giving everything to the end.

                                          It’s because we have a higher expectation of the mens side because of the legacy they’ve built. An All Black test match crowd is totally different because the expectation for the men to perform is higher and the crowd is usually more serious.

                                          With the Black Ferns, they are starting to create their own legacy but they don’t have the same weight on their shoulders because there isn’t that same pressure to perform.

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