France v Australia
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With Frost, Valetini, Tupou, Holloway and Skelton the Wallabies pack has plenty of size and with Laurie Fisher putting together a good maul defence it puts the Wallabies right in the contest.
That try concede on halftime is a coach killer.
@KiwiMurph said in France v Australia:
With Frost, Valetini, Tupou, Holloway and Skelton the Wallabies pack has plenty of size and with Laurie Fisher putting together a good maul defence it puts the Wallabies right in the contest.
Back to this - here is a potential Wallabies team with another year of pro footy under its belt:
1 Bell
2 Porecki
3 Alaalatoa (c)
4 Frost
5 Philip
6 Holloway
7 Hooper
8 Valetini
9 White
10 Cooper
11 Koroibete
12 Kerevi
13 Ikitau
14 Kellaway
15 Campbell (yes I think he's good enough)16 Fainga'a / Lonergan / Pollard
17 Slipper / Sio
18 Tupou
19 Skelton / Neville
20 Samu
21 Gordon / McDermott
22 Lolesio / Donaldson / Edmed
23 Nawaqanitawase / Hodge / a host of othersSo we're mostly there in terms of forming up a squad IMHO. And playing at potential could be a very good side, with a few of those disciplinary edges sanded off.
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So much for an Aussie team ferners think NZ should thrash every time. But for a couple of bits of poor execution from Jock Campbell they could have beaten France. That last ruck cleanout was abysmal and gifted it to Danty.
Just shows how close the top teams are these days.
Penaud is a classy runner but should have been cleaned up before that try. -
So much for an Aussie team ferners think NZ should thrash every time. But for a couple of bits of poor execution from Jock Campbell they could have beaten France. That last ruck cleanout was abysmal and gifted it to Danty.
Just shows how close the top teams are these days.
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@KiwiMurph still think they are dark horse at next years 2023 RWC , if they can get their best 23 assembled they will be a threat
Samu Kerevi and Marika Koroibete back in starting XV makes them an even more dangerous beast@Steven-Harris said in France v Australia:
@KiwiMurph still think they are dark horse at next years 2023 RWC , if they can get their best 23 assembled they will be a threat
Samu Kerevi and Marika Koroibete back in starting XV makes them an even more dangerous beastYep very dangerous if they can put their best team (or close to it) on the park.
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@KiwiMurph said in France v Australia:
With Frost, Valetini, Tupou, Holloway and Skelton the Wallabies pack has plenty of size and with Laurie Fisher putting together a good maul defence it puts the Wallabies right in the contest.
Back to this - here is a potential Wallabies team with another year of pro footy under its belt:
1 Bell
2 Porecki
3 Alaalatoa (c)
4 Frost
5 Philip
6 Holloway
7 Hooper
8 Valetini
9 White
10 Cooper
11 Koroibete
12 Kerevi
13 Ikitau
14 Kellaway
15 Campbell (yes I think he's good enough)16 Fainga'a / Lonergan / Pollard
17 Slipper / Sio
18 Tupou
19 Skelton / Neville
20 Samu
21 Gordon / McDermott
22 Lolesio / Donaldson / Edmed
23 Nawaqanitawase / Hodge / a host of othersSo we're mostly there in terms of forming up a squad IMHO. And playing at potential could be a very good side, with a few of those disciplinary edges sanded off.
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@game_film poor use of subs caused this.
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@NTA id like to see BPA brought back into the team. His performances in his last year were far better than Faingaa and Porecki.
@Derpus said in France v Australia:
@NTA id like to see BPA brought back into the team. His performances in his last year were far better than Faingaa and Porecki.
I'm not sure Fainga'a deserves his spot based on his throwing and discipline - those fucking stupid cannonball tackles! Laurie Fisher was on twitter after one blatant example saying it wasn't illegal the one time he got away with it, then the next game was horribly silent when he got penalised.
Hopefully someone like Pollard gets more time in Super Rugby and can take the bench spot.
I always thought BPA was good but needed to work on his fitness. Not sure his discipline was anything special either, but maybe playing for the Reds colours my judgement on that
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That 90m try by the wallabies was as good as any try you'll ever see. Fucking outstanding rugby
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that French try right on halftime, the French guy at the ruck shoulda bee done for going over and sealing it off.
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Longer highlights clip (referee channel, without commentary):
Shorter highlights video (with English commentary):@Stargazer said in France v Australia:
Longer highlights clip (referee channel, without commentary):
I'm a big fan of no commentary footage and I wish it was an option for all games regardless of the telecaster.
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@cgrant said in France v Australia:
A few blunders cost the Wallabies dearly (Foley's pass to nobody for the French first try, Valetini's left foot kick, Hodge's misfiring kick off to name a few, plus the missed tackles on Penaud). But I reckon they will be a force next for the RWC if they can have Beale, Kerevi, Koroibete, Alaalatoa, Sio, Philipp, Rodda, Bell and Leota who were not there today.
Cooper especially.
@Frye said in France v Australia:
@cgrant said in France v Australia:
A few blunders cost the Wallabies dearly (Foley's pass to nobody for the French first try, Valetini's left foot kick, Hodge's misfiring kick off to name a few, plus the missed tackles on Penaud). But I reckon they will be a force next for the RWC if they can have Beale, Kerevi, Koroibete, Alaalatoa, Sio, Philipp, Rodda, Bell and Leota who were not there today.
Cooper especially.
I did not dare to add him to my list since he is unpredictable ...
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@Stargazer said in France v Australia:
Longer highlights clip (referee channel, without commentary):
I'm a big fan of no commentary footage and I wish it was an option for all games regardless of the telecaster.
@antipodean said in France v Australia:
@Stargazer said in France v Australia:
Longer highlights clip (referee channel, without commentary):
I'm a big fan of no commentary footage and I wish it was an option for all games regardless of the telecaster.
You should upgrade your telly mate. I did a few years back, and now my set has this wicked function called "mute". Apparently I can even activate it with the remote, but I haven't figured that part out yet.
Good things take time.
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@antipodean said in France v Australia:
@Stargazer said in France v Australia:
Longer highlights clip (referee channel, without commentary):
I'm a big fan of no commentary footage and I wish it was an option for all games regardless of the telecaster.
You should upgrade your telly mate. I did a few years back, and now my set has this wicked function called "mute". Apparently I can even activate it with the remote, but I haven't figured that part out yet.
Good things take time.
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That was a very exciting game with both teams looking like they could win it. Feel a bit for the Wobblies, how many games versus France have been decided by the tightest of margins recently?
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@voodoo smart arse
I like having the crowd noise. That was a red button option on foxtel years ago.
@NTA said in France v Australia:
@voodoo smart arse
I like having the crowd noise. That was a red button option on foxtel years ago.
You should have recorded the fake fan noise that they used during lockdown to play while watching matches. No need to have it synched to whats happening on the field as the broadcasters certainly didn't bother about it.
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@Tordah a lot gets made of Dave Rennie's overall record but his Wallabies side have lost 5 games by 2 points or less.
They've also had to play us like 9 times.
I think they are a bit better than their record suggests.
@mariner4life said in France v Australia:
@Tordah a lot gets made of Dave Rennie's overall record but his Wallabies side have lost 5 games by 2 points or less.
They've also had to play us like 9 times.
I think they are a bit better than their record suggests.To lose by 5 games by 2 points or less is bad luck or maybe shows an inability to close a game out?
Either view possible I guess.
But 1 point victory over Scotland?
https://www.theroar.com.au/rugby-union/fixtures/wallabies-fixtures/
Date Competition Result
Jul 2 July Tests Australia 30 def. England 28
Jul 9 England 25 def. Australia 17
Jul 16 England 21 def. Australia 17
Aug 7 Rugby Championship Australia 41 def. Argentina 26
Aug 14 Argentina 48 def. Australia 17
Aug 27 Australia 25 def. South Africa 17
Sep 3 South Africa 24 def. Australia 8
Sep 15 Bledisloe Cup/Rugby Championship New Zealand 39 def. Australia 37
Sep 24 New Zealand 40 def. Australia 14
Oct 30 Spring Tour Australia 16 def. Scotland 15
Nov 6 France 30 def. Australia 29 -
@mariner4life said in France v Australia:
@Tordah a lot gets made of Dave Rennie's overall record but his Wallabies side have lost 5 games by 2 points or less.
They've also had to play us like 9 times.
I think they are a bit better than their record suggests.To lose by 5 games by 2 points or less is bad luck or maybe shows an inability to close a game out?
Either view possible I guess.
But 1 point victory over Scotland?
https://www.theroar.com.au/rugby-union/fixtures/wallabies-fixtures/
Date Competition Result
Jul 2 July Tests Australia 30 def. England 28
Jul 9 England 25 def. Australia 17
Jul 16 England 21 def. Australia 17
Aug 7 Rugby Championship Australia 41 def. Argentina 26
Aug 14 Argentina 48 def. Australia 17
Aug 27 Australia 25 def. South Africa 17
Sep 3 South Africa 24 def. Australia 8
Sep 15 Bledisloe Cup/Rugby Championship New Zealand 39 def. Australia 37
Sep 24 New Zealand 40 def. Australia 14
Oct 30 Spring Tour Australia 16 def. Scotland 15
Nov 6 France 30 def. Australia 29@nostrildamus No such thing as bad luck when you smash Argentina one week then get humped by them similarly the next.
Look at the win we had against the Boks: absolutely belting them and then let in 2 late tries. Consistency is our problem, not luck. Game management as well i.e. pissing away a win against the ABs through Foley's idiocy.
The England results sort of don't count for margin because England don't have any ambition beyond "win by 1". The manner of the victories is the thing, and we got beat up, effectively, so the margin is irrelevant.
