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France vs Springboks

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Catogrande I don't think any ofnthese red cards we see are intentional, some are worse than others in terms of stupidity/dangerous/accidental, but not intentional.

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    @taniwharugby

    I agree that intentionality is rare. In the case of a clear out like PSDT, I can see the intention to stick a shoulder into the ribs, say, rather than a nut to the face, but if you ride that line you’re putting guys in danger and yourself in the frame.

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      Waynes Barnes missed what we saw in a bar in Edinburgh:

      He plainly needs to take a look at his prematch fluids routine.

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        Waynes Barnes missed what we saw in a bar in Edinburgh:

        He plainly needs to take a look at his prematch fluids routine.

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        @pakman a gargle on Rassie you reckon?

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          Waynes Barnes missed what we saw in a bar in Edinburgh:

          He plainly needs to take a look at his prematch fluids routine.

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          @pakman said in France vs Springboks:

          Waynes Barnes missed what we saw in a bar in Edinburgh:

          He plainly needs to take a look at his prematch fluids routine.

          The All Blacks were penalised for exactly the same thing on the weekend: A clear non bind situation ignored because the refs only look at the defenders when it comes to mauls.

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          • OomPBO OomPB

            @NTA how do you get this?

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            @OomPB said in France vs Springboks:

            @NTA how do you get this?

            Willemse is a fullback pretending to be a flyhalf most of the time. However, he also possess a distribution game where the entire Bok plan is still running on kick-and-bash. Maybe over time he and the wingers can make something of it, but he's a square peg in a round hole at the moment.

            Le Roux is a total flake. The strategy of him joining as first receiver is to cover Willemse's deficiencies, but his defence is suspect and his temperament has always been crap. Much better at provincial level where he was carving up second-rate D lines.

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              @pakman said in France vs Springboks:

              Waynes Barnes missed what we saw in a bar in Edinburgh:

              He plainly needs to take a look at his prematch fluids routine.

              The All Blacks were penalised for exactly the same thing on the weekend: A clear non bind situation ignored because the refs only look at the defenders when it comes to mauls.

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              @antipodean said in France vs Springboks:

              @pakman said in France vs Springboks:

              Waynes Barnes missed what we saw in a bar in Edinburgh:

              He plainly needs to take a look at his prematch fluids routine.

              The All Blacks were penalised for exactly the same thing on the weekend: A clear non bind situation ignored because the refs only look at the defenders when it comes to mauls.

              Exactly! Remember that.

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                Waynes Barnes missed what we saw in a bar in Edinburgh:

                He plainly needs to take a look at his prematch fluids routine.

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                @pakman said in France vs Springboks:

                Waynes Barnes missed what we saw in a bar in Edinburgh:

                He plainly needs to take a look at his prematch fluids routine.

                After three pints he wouldn't have missed it!

                P.S. Is he a closet Francophile (has form)?

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                  @pakman said in France vs Springboks:

                  Waynes Barnes missed what we saw in a bar in Edinburgh:

                  He plainly needs to take a look at his prematch fluids routine.

                  After three pints he wouldn't have missed it!

                  P.S. Is he a closet Francophile (has form)?

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                  @pakman said in France vs Springboks:

                  @pakman said in France vs Springboks:

                  Waynes Barnes missed what we saw in a bar in Edinburgh:

                  He plainly needs to take a look at his prematch fluids routine.

                  After three pints he wouldn't have missed it!

                  P.S. Is he a closet Francophile (has form)?

                  https://twitter.com/ISephara/status/1591556800671027201

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                    @pakman said in France vs Springboks:

                    @pakman said in France vs Springboks:

                    Waynes Barnes missed what we saw in a bar in Edinburgh:

                    He plainly needs to take a look at his prematch fluids routine.

                    After three pints he wouldn't have missed it!

                    P.S. Is he a closet Francophile (has form)?

                    https://twitter.com/ISephara/status/1591556800671027201

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                    @pakman is...is that a oap Paul Rudd 20 dollar note?

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                      @pakman is...is that a oap Paul Rudd 20 dollar note?

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                      @Bones said in France vs Springboks:

                      @pakman is...is that a oap Paul Rudd 20 dollar note?

                      Your eyesight is better than mine!

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                        Barnes didn’t have a bad test and I think both red cards were genuinely regretted by both players.PSDT cut an abject figure on bench and DuPont apologised to Kolbe on the field.
                        Our lineouts weren’t great and Bongi needs to sort more than just a 2 ball to Etzebeth .Thought Marchand was full value.
                        It was an intense test and really enjoyable apart from the result. What a cauldron of a venue and it bodes well for RWC. French at home are going to be tough for everyone…they REALLY want their name on that cup…

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                          @OomPB said in France vs Springboks:

                          @NTA how do you get this?

                          Willemse is a fullback pretending to be a flyhalf most of the time. However, he also possess a distribution game where the entire Bok plan is still running on kick-and-bash. Maybe over time he and the wingers can make something of it, but he's a square peg in a round hole at the moment.

                          Le Roux is a total flake. The strategy of him joining as first receiver is to cover Willemse's deficiencies, but his defence is suspect and his temperament has always been crap. Much better at provincial level where he was carving up second-rate D lines.

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                          @NTA The only defancies with Willemse is his place kicking. His distribution, defense has always been outstanding plus he is a very good stepper.

                          He played 10 all his years and only change to 15 on Rassie's request. Lately he play 12 at the Stormers who have Libbok in 10 and Gelant in 15.This 3 had a massive year for the Stormers.

                          Willie, also a Paul Roser played 10 until the Cheetahs moved him to 15 and wing.

                          In my view the Springboks is in desperate need of flair player like Willemse and Willie.

                          I think you missing the pot totally.

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                            @NTA The only defancies with Willemse is his place kicking. His distribution, defense has always been outstanding plus he is a very good stepper.

                            He played 10 all his years and only change to 15 on Rassie's request. Lately he play 12 at the Stormers who have Libbok in 10 and Gelant in 15.This 3 had a massive year for the Stormers.

                            Willie, also a Paul Roser played 10 until the Cheetahs moved him to 15 and wing.

                            In my view the Springboks is in desperate need of flair player like Willemse and Willie.

                            I think you missing the pot totally.

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                            @OomPB unfortunately Willie is less flair but more erratic these days. He always seems rushed and therefore is making poor reads or bad kicks. IMO I think he’s better as a bench option and hopefully for the Boks his abilities can be better used late in the game rather than for longer periods

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                              @OomPB unfortunately Willie is less flair but more erratic these days. He always seems rushed and therefore is making poor reads or bad kicks. IMO I think he’s better as a bench option and hopefully for the Boks his abilities can be better used late in the game rather than for longer periods

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in France vs Springboks:

                              @OomPB unfortunately Willie is less flair but more erratic these days. He always seems rushed and therefore is making poor reads or bad kicks. IMO I think he’s better as a bench option and hopefully for the Boks his abilities can be better used late in the game rather than for longer periods

                              Willie seems to go through highs and lows doesn't he?! Not sure what the issue is, maybe sometimes he panics.

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                                Willie was pretty good in his last two outings against Ireland and Wales.

                                Willemse scrambling defense is excellent specially when we are 14 men.

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                                  I hope to see Libbok and Roos get a decent run against Italy. If Libbok goes well in 10, we can move Willemse to his best position in 12. Then we can ignite our excellent finishers on the wing.

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                                    https://www.world.rugby/news/777605/world-rugby-statement-rassie-erasmus-social-media-commentary-on-match-officials

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                                      Rassie should have been a soccer coach, the whiny Kant. I usually like the Springboks but with such a DoR I'll have to switch allegiance

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                                        https://www.world.rugby/news/777605/world-rugby-statement-rassie-erasmus-social-media-commentary-on-match-officials

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                                        @Billy-Tell said in France vs Springboks:

                                        https://www.world.rugby/news/777605/world-rugby-statement-rassie-erasmus-social-media-commentary-on-match-officials

                                        What about the errant officials?

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                                          https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/springboks/pieter-stephs-springbok-season-over-star-forward-slapped-with-3-week-ban-for-france-red-card-20221117

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