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WRWC Final - NZ Vs England

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  • DamoD Damo

    @nostrildamus said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

    They do need to look at mauls. Don't mind a contrast of styles at all but a maul every 5 minutes? Also seems an adjudicational lottery to me and not a fair contest of the ball.

    Yep I agree.

    The issue isn't the idea of the mauls, its that the laws need tweaking/better enforcement.

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    @Damo said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

    @nostrildamus said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

    They do need to look at mauls. Don't mind a contrast of styles at all but a maul every 5 minutes? Also seems an adjudicational lottery to me and not a fair contest of the ball.

    Yep I agree.

    The issue isn't the idea of the mauls, its that the laws need tweaking/better enforcement.

    That, but the whole of this RWC the refs were consistently ignoring the obstruction; the receiver continually landed and passed it straight back to the ripper prior to defensive contact. I cannot think of one maul formation from the lineout that I would have adjuged legal.

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    • canefanC canefan

      @Kirwan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

      @His-Bobness said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

      Might have been more comfortable for the Black Ferns had they made their conversions. How many points did they leave out there?

      4 or 5 missed kicks?

      Just didn't have the range. From the tee or hand

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      @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

      @Kirwan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

      @His-Bobness said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

      Might have been more comfortable for the Black Ferns had they made their conversions. How many points did they leave out there?

      4 or 5 missed kicks?

      Just didn't have the range. From the tee or hand

      Range wasn't the problem. Direction was.

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        canefan
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        #694

        Watching the BFs win the RWC with CF Sr and mum, and CF Jr. Pretty special

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        • RoninWCR Online
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          #695

          Some absolute shocking decisions in that game from ref and players but the biggest stupid decision is player of the match to Demant.

          Stacey Fluhler deserved that, even blind Freddy would have picked Stacey!

          It was Stacey and daylight second.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

            @Kirwan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

            @His-Bobness said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

            Might have been more comfortable for the Black Ferns had they made their conversions. How many points did they leave out there?

            4 or 5 missed kicks?

            Just didn't have the range. From the tee or hand

            Range wasn't the problem. Direction was.

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            @Stargazer said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

            @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

            @Kirwan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

            @His-Bobness said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

            Might have been more comfortable for the Black Ferns had they made their conversions. How many points did they leave out there?

            4 or 5 missed kicks?

            Just didn't have the range. From the tee or hand

            Range wasn't the problem. Direction was.

            Yeah she put a couple just outside the posts.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

              @Kirwan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

              @His-Bobness said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

              Might have been more comfortable for the Black Ferns had they made their conversions. How many points did they leave out there?

              4 or 5 missed kicks?

              Just didn't have the range. From the tee or hand

              Range wasn't the problem. Direction was.

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              canefan
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              @Stargazer said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

              @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

              @Kirwan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

              @His-Bobness said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

              Might have been more comfortable for the Black Ferns had they made their conversions. How many points did they leave out there?

              4 or 5 missed kicks?

              Just didn't have the range. From the tee or hand

              Range wasn't the problem. Direction was.

              A couple of kicks dropped just under the posts. Or that's how it looked from up here

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              • RoninWCR RoninWC

                Some absolute shocking decisions in that game from ref and players but the biggest stupid decision is player of the match to Demant.

                Stacey Fluhler deserved that, even blind Freddy would have picked Stacey!

                It was Stacey and daylight second.

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                @RoninWC said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                Some absolute shocking decisions in that game from ref and players but the biggest stupid decision is player of the match to Demant.

                Stacey Flueler deserved that, even blind Freddy would have picked Stacey!

                It was Stacey and daylight second.

                The fuck??? That's nuts, who the hell selected her?

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @Stargazer said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                  @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                  @Kirwan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                  @His-Bobness said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                  Might have been more comfortable for the Black Ferns had they made their conversions. How many points did they leave out there?

                  4 or 5 missed kicks?

                  Just didn't have the range. From the tee or hand

                  Range wasn't the problem. Direction was.

                  A couple of kicks dropped just under the posts. Or that's how it looked from up here

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                  @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                  @Stargazer said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                  @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                  @Kirwan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                  @His-Bobness said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                  Might have been more comfortable for the Black Ferns had they made their conversions. How many points did they leave out there?

                  4 or 5 missed kicks?

                  Just didn't have the range. From the tee or hand

                  Range wasn't the problem. Direction was.

                  A couple of kicks dropped just under the posts. Or that's how it looked from up here

                  Only one was short, the other misses were just outside the post.

                  Pressure of a WC final aye.

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                  • RoninWCR RoninWC

                    Some absolute shocking decisions in that game from ref and players but the biggest stupid decision is player of the match to Demant.

                    Stacey Fluhler deserved that, even blind Freddy would have picked Stacey!

                    It was Stacey and daylight second.

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                    @RoninWC said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                    Some absolute shocking decisions in that game from ref and players but the biggest stupid decision is player of the match to Demant.

                    Stacey Flueler deserved that, even blind Freddy would have picked Stacey!

                    It was Stacey and daylight second.

                    WHAT?!?!? No way they picked Demant. That has to be fake news.

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                    • voodooV voodoo

                      @RoninWC said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                      Some absolute shocking decisions in that game from ref and players but the biggest stupid decision is player of the match to Demant.

                      Stacey Flueler deserved that, even blind Freddy would have picked Stacey!

                      It was Stacey and daylight second.

                      The fuck??? That's nuts, who the hell selected her?

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                      @voodoo said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                      @RoninWC said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                      Some absolute shocking decisions in that game from ref and players but the biggest stupid decision is player of the match to Demant.

                      Stacey Flueler deserved that, even blind Freddy would have picked Stacey!

                      It was Stacey and daylight second.

                      The fuck??? That's nuts, who the hell selected her?

                      Maybe crucial? I wish he would explain it to us uneducated though. 😁

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @Kirwan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @His-Bobness said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        Might have been more comfortable for the Black Ferns had they made their conversions. How many points did they leave out there?

                        4 or 5 missed kicks?

                        Just didn't have the range. From the tee or hand

                        Range wasn't the problem. Direction was.

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                        @Stargazer said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @Kirwan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        @His-Bobness said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                        Might have been more comfortable for the Black Ferns had they made their conversions. How many points did they leave out there?

                        4 or 5 missed kicks?

                        Just didn't have the range. From the tee or hand

                        Range wasn't the problem. Direction was.

                        One shot from just out of the 22 on the angle didn’t even make the goal line.

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          Watching the BFs win the RWC with CF Sr and mum, and CF Jr. Pretty special

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                          @canefan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                          Watching the BFs win the RWC with CF Sr and mum, and CF Jr. Pretty special

                          Was actually watching it with Mrs Dan, and I have to say to see her dance around the floor in tears at end has given me much joy. She's only a little thing to but when she leapt into my arms I suddenly remembered how old I was, just about knocked me over! Really good stuff I think!

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                            Coverage here in Oz showed Demant getting the POTM award.

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                            • KirwanK Kirwan

                              @chimoaus said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              I must admit to yelling at the screen when they took the tap instead of kicking for touch and milking the clock. That choice almost cost them the game.

                              Extremely stupid.

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                              @Kirwan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              @chimoaus said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                              I must admit to yelling at the screen when they took the tap instead of kicking for touch and milking the clock. That choice almost cost them the game.

                              Extremely stupid.

                              Always a waste of time yelling at the screen. 🙂

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                                Fluhler you fucking beauty, you win the fan award.

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                                  By my count 4 missed conversions 1 missed penalty so 11 points left out there..

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                                    What is the rule when a maul splinters and they start a new maul with the players in front of the ball acting as a shield? This seemed to happen frequently where they would pivot, splinter and start a new maul.

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                                    • chimoausC chimoaus

                                      What is the rule when a maul splinters and they start a new maul with the players in front of the ball acting as a shield? This seemed to happen frequently where they would pivot, splinter and start a new maul.

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                                      @chimoaus said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                      What is the rule when a maul splinters and they start a new maul with the players in front of the ball acting as a shield? This seemed to happen frequently where they would pivot, splinter and start a new maul.

                                      I was going to ask as well. And it didn't look a thing of beauty.

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @NTA said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Kirwan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @NTA said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        Demant POTM? Really? Did Black 13 have to leave early or something?

                                        13 for me as well, that try from her dummy was out of this world.

                                        (I couldn't spell her surname. "Fluhler" 🙂 )

                                        Just remember "Mein" in front and the rest will flow.

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                                        @nostrildamus said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @NTA said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @Kirwan said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        @NTA said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                        Demant POTM? Really? Did Black 13 have to leave early or something?

                                        13 for me as well, that try from her dummy was out of this world.

                                        (I couldn't spell her surname. "Fluhler" 🙂 )

                                        Just remember "Mein" in front and the rest will flow.

                                        With a speech impediment.

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                                        • K kev

                                          @Damo said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @nostrildamus said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          They do need to look at mauls. Don't mind a contrast of styles at all but a maul every 5 minutes? Also seems an adjudicational lottery to me and not a fair contest of the ball.

                                          Yep I agree.

                                          The issue isn't the idea of the mauls, its that the laws need tweaking/better enforcement.

                                          The movement to the side where the mall spins, the players break their bind and change the point of attack is the one they should stop.

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                                          @kev said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @Damo said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          @nostrildamus said in WRWC Final - NZ Vs England:

                                          They do need to look at mauls. Don't mind a contrast of styles at all but a maul every 5 minutes? Also seems an adjudicational lottery to me and not a fair contest of the ball.

                                          Yep I agree.

                                          The issue isn't the idea of the mauls, its that the laws need tweaking/better enforcement.

                                          The movement to the side where the mall spins, the players break their bind and change the point of attack is the one they should stop.

                                          What was frustrating was that after that break/splinter the ref allowed stagnant ball again after already calling “once” in the first part of the drive.

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