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  • CatograndeC Catogrande

    @Daffy-Jaffy

    It’s looking like the knives are being sharpened for Eddie. The RFU have announced a series of reviews into the current situation.

    My thoughts? Invest in gin shares. This could run and run.

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    @Catogrande said in England vs Springboks:

    @Daffy-Jaffy

    It’s looking like the knives are being sharpened for Eddie. The RFU have announced a series of reviews into the current situation.

    My thoughts? Invest in gin shares. This could run and run.

    Matt Dawson and Mike Brown have publicly called Eddie to go. SCW wants RFU chair Sweeney to go. All three seem to have sauces inside the England camp. Getting nasty. Don't know about gin, but I'd fetch the popcorn.

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    • CatograndeC Catogrande

      @ACT-Crusader said in England vs Springboks:

      @Jailbreak7 said in England vs Springboks:

      @Billy-Tell Yes, pass looked a shade forward.
      Think both games have highlighted three things which will be crucial come WC time.
      Discipline leadership/game management and the ability to execute in the last 10 mins. Simple really.......now if only Foster was paying attention...

      I think part of that game management has to be the ability to kick drop goals.

      Given the rucks are an absolute lottery and possession is turned over far more frequently than the past either through penalties, TMO interventions or errors - being able to quickly adjust to set up for a droppy and then execute should be part of the plan.

      Gone are the days of 12-15 phases, especially when some refs seem to be hunting for penalties.

      Yes. Not having the ball seems to be the less risky option, which to me says that the current law interpretations are wrong.

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      @Catogrande hard lines. Faithful England fans deserve better.

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      • OomPBO OomPB

        @pakman Kobus ?

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        @OomPB Kobus Visagie.

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        • OomPBO OomPB

          @Rapido Nah he is talking about Cobus Visagie. No Cobus was a Paul Roser, Richard Visagie played TH for Boland in the good old days when Boland was still a force in CC rugby. Richard is a teacher , vice principal at Paarl Boys High and for years their 1st team coach.

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          @OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

          @Rapido Nah he is talking about Cobus Visagie. No Cobus was a Paul Roser, Richard Visagie played TH for Boland in the good old days when Boland was still a force in CC rugby. Richard is a teacher , vice principal at Paarl Boys High and for years their 1st team coach.

          Haven’t watched clip. Are they related?

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          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

            @Stargazer said in England vs Springboks:

            https://twitter.com/richardboock/status/1596707527550726144

            Does anyone else think the pass to Le Roux was forward? Looked a bit Michalak-like.

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            @Billy-Tell said in England vs Springboks:

            @Stargazer said in England vs Springboks:

            https://twitter.com/richardboock/status/1596707527550726144

            Does anyone else think the pass to Le Roux was forward? Looked a bit Michalak-like.

            It was passed forward. Whereas the last pass went forward but was passed back.

            No doubt Rassie will clarify!

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            • NTAN NTA

              @Billy-Tell said in England vs Springboks:

              @Stargazer said in England vs Springboks:

              https://twitter.com/richardboock/status/1596707527550726144

              Does anyone else think the pass to Le Roux was forward? Looked a bit Michalak-like.

              No, but I found Arendse's running line back toward Willemse interesting.

              Go look at 15s into that clip and how Green 14 moves directly toward the receiver, then moves out of the line, right into the path of the defender.

              Have seen more innocent attempts penalised.

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              @NTA said in England vs Springboks:

              Go look at 15s into that clip and how Green 14 moves directly toward the receiver, then moves out of the line, right into the path of the defender.

              Steward's reaction showed he wasn't happy. It was subtle but I certainly noticed it. This demonstrates the randomness of the TMO interventions.

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              • P pakman

                @OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

                @Rapido Nah he is talking about Cobus Visagie. No Cobus was a Paul Roser, Richard Visagie played TH for Boland in the good old days when Boland was still a force in CC rugby. Richard is a teacher , vice principal at Paarl Boys High and for years their 1st team coach.

                Haven’t watched clip. Are they related?

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                @pakman not at all.

                Suparugby
                "Leb’s Talk by Neil Kalify

                Twickenham silenced by a high Spirited 14 man Bok side.

                Boks outplayed the English in all facets of the game with excellent performers from starters and finishes barring the red card, with Arendse's and Willemse skillsets showing their worth.

                The focus for me is on the hard and solid work laid down and when the red card was implemented, back onto the field came Jozua Francois Malherbe and in my opinion one of the better tightheads South-Africa has produced .

                The question is has any loosehead really challenged the 1.9 metre 125 kg at set piece. No, Not really and that's why he is so important to the Boks and with unnoticed work rate with his carrying and cleaning Ruck abilities aswell.

                A Paarl Boys high Product who made his debut in 2013 against Wales and continues to impress week after week nearing his 60 "th international cap.

                His contribution to South Africa is immense in both styles that the Boks are now playing and understands his primary Role aswell as his role after set piece in both attack and defence."

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                • P pakman

                  @OomPB Kobus Visagie.

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                  @pakman here you go
                  https://twitter.com/Drieman3/status/1597174173822242816?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1597174173822242816|twgr^00a357f108d36ee45ff324fd86bbab31813cad13|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sarugbymag.co.za%2Fformer-bok-prop-fires-shots-at-proudfoot%2F

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                  • NTAN NTA

                    @Frank said in England vs Springboks:

                    @OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

                    The only size that matter on a rugby field is the size of the heart.

                    I look forward to facing the 90 kg Bok locks with "big hearts" in the future then.

                    Or the props

                    8954977c-2651-4409-9cb4-9c2afe6ce4b8-image.png

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                    #107

                    @NTA said in England vs Springboks:

                    @Frank said in England vs Springboks:

                    @OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

                    The only size that matter on a rugby field is the size of the heart.

                    I look forward to facing the 90 kg Bok locks with "big hearts" in the future then.

                    Or the props

                    8954977c-2651-4409-9cb4-9c2afe6ce4b8-image.png

                    I imagine punters are very careful how they pronounce his surname in his presence...

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      @NTA said in England vs Springboks:

                      @Frank said in England vs Springboks:

                      @OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

                      The only size that matter on a rugby field is the size of the heart.

                      I look forward to facing the 90 kg Bok locks with "big hearts" in the future then.

                      Or the props

                      8954977c-2651-4409-9cb4-9c2afe6ce4b8-image.png

                      I imagine punters are very careful how they pronounce his surname in his presence...

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                      @nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks

                      Genslin
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                      Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
                      I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.

                      I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".

                      I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.

                      "We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.

                      Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."

                      Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.

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                      • OomPBO OomPB

                        @nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks

                        Genslin
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                        Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
                        I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.

                        I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".

                        I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.

                        "We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.

                        Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."

                        Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.

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                        @OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

                        @nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks

                        Genslin
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                        Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
                        I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.

                        I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".

                        I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.

                        "We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.

                        Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."

                        Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.

                        It’s great to hear such stories about the rugby genes being passed on through the generations.

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                        • OomPBO OomPB

                          @nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks

                          Genslin
                          "
                          Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
                          I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.

                          I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".

                          I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.

                          "We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.

                          Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."

                          Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.

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                          @OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

                          @nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks

                          Genslin
                          "
                          Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
                          I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.

                          I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".

                          I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.

                          "We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.

                          Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."

                          Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.

                          “ McLean, whose 1963 tour account "Willie Away" -- named for the line-out peel-off move borrowed from the French and perfected by Whineray -- may represent the peak of his own unique contribution to New Zealand rugby culture as he wrote: "I would unhesitatingly name him as New Zealand's greatest captain."

                          He also earned his place in the roll of great rugby one-liners, stunning rugged Bok prop Piet du Toit, notorious for testing the outer limits of scrummaging legality, by asking: "Do you have to spoil every match you play in?"

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                          • CatograndeC Catogrande

                            @OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

                            @nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks

                            Genslin
                            "
                            Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
                            I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.

                            I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".

                            I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.

                            "We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.

                            Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."

                            Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.

                            It’s great to hear such stories about the rugby genes being passed on through the generations.

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                            @Catogrande said in England vs Springboks:

                            @OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

                            @nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks

                            Genslin
                            "
                            Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
                            I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.

                            I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".

                            I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.

                            "We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.

                            Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."

                            Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.

                            It’s great to hear such stories about the rugby genes being passed on through the generations.

                            Indeed.

                            It's serves as a reminder that it's not our fault that we didn't have the physical gifts to represent our respective countries.

                            It's the fault of our useless fucking grandparents, we never stood a chance!

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                            • CatograndeC Catogrande

                              @OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

                              @nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks

                              Genslin
                              "
                              Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
                              I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.

                              I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".

                              I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.

                              "We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.

                              Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."

                              Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.

                              It’s great to hear such stories about the rugby genes being passed on through the generations.

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                              @Catogrande the 1981 Boks to NZ have great rugby genes. Producing Boks like Schalk Burger, FvdMerwe, Andries Bekker, Ruaan Pienaar and Claasen son playing for France.

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                                @OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

                                @nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks

                                Genslin
                                "
                                Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
                                I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.

                                I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".

                                I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.

                                "We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.

                                Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."

                                Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.

                                “ McLean, whose 1963 tour account "Willie Away" -- named for the line-out peel-off move borrowed from the French and perfected by Whineray -- may represent the peak of his own unique contribution to New Zealand rugby culture as he wrote: "I would unhesitatingly name him as New Zealand's greatest captain."

                                He also earned his place in the roll of great rugby one-liners, stunning rugged Bok prop Piet du Toit, notorious for testing the outer limits of scrummaging legality, by asking: "Do you have to spoil every match you play in?"

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                                @pakman said in England vs Springboks:

                                @OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

                                @nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks

                                Genslin
                                "
                                Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
                                I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.

                                I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".

                                I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.

                                "We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.

                                Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."

                                Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.

                                “ McLean, whose 1963 tour account "Willie Away" -- named for the line-out peel-off move borrowed from the French and perfected by Whineray -- may represent the peak of his own unique contribution to New Zealand rugby culture as he wrote: "I would unhesitatingly name him as New Zealand's greatest captain."

                                He also earned his place in the roll of great rugby one-liners, stunning rugged Bok prop Piet du Toit, notorious for testing the outer limits of scrummaging legality, by asking: "Do you have to spoil every match you play in?"

                                Spiere Afrikaans for “Muscles”?

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                                • NTAN NTA

                                  @Billy-Tell said in England vs Springboks:

                                  @Stargazer said in England vs Springboks:

                                  https://twitter.com/richardboock/status/1596707527550726144

                                  Does anyone else think the pass to Le Roux was forward? Looked a bit Michalak-like.

                                  No, but I found Arendse's running line back toward Willemse interesting.

                                  Go look at 15s into that clip and how Green 14 moves directly toward the receiver, then moves out of the line, right into the path of the defender.

                                  Have seen more innocent attempts penalised.

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                                  @NTA said in England vs Springboks:

                                  No, but I found Arendse's running line back toward Willemse interesting.

                                  Go look at 15s into that clip and how Green 14 moves directly toward the receiver, then moves out of the line, right into the path of the defender.

                                  Have seen more innocent attempts penalised.

                                  I think it was a brilliant line because it was just barely enough to hinder the would-be tackler while not enough for most refs to penalise. Weak defence by that lesbian in the English 10 shirt, mind

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                                  • TordahT Tordah

                                    @NTA said in England vs Springboks:

                                    No, but I found Arendse's running line back toward Willemse interesting.

                                    Go look at 15s into that clip and how Green 14 moves directly toward the receiver, then moves out of the line, right into the path of the defender.

                                    Have seen more innocent attempts penalised.

                                    I think it was a brilliant line because it was just barely enough to hinder the would-be tackler while not enough for most refs to penalise. Weak defence by that lesbian in the English 10 shirt, mind

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                                    @Tordah said in England vs Springboks:

                                    @NTA said in England vs Springboks:

                                    No, but I found Arendse's running line back toward Willemse interesting.

                                    Go look at 15s into that clip and how Green 14 moves directly toward the receiver, then moves out of the line, right into the path of the defender.

                                    Have seen more innocent attempts penalised.

                                    I think it was a brilliant line because it was just barely enough to hinder the would-be tackler while not enough for most refs to penalise. Weak defence by that lesbian in the English 10 shirt, mind

                                    Agreed. A very clever line and I didn't notice that at all at the time. Steward really should have made something of that to bring it to the ref's notice, no point in waving your arms about afterwards.

                                    A bit unfair on Smith's defence. He's not the first to be turned inside out by a full speed Allendse and I'll bet he won't be the last.

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                                      @pakman said in England vs Springboks:

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                                      @nostrildamus PSdT grand dad "Piet Spiere" was one of the Springboks strongest THs. Played in 1960 against the All Blacks

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                                      Piet-Spiere du Toit : Doc Craven
                                      I once had a letter from a parent who told me that his son was playing first team as a flank, but believed he should be a frontranker as he was very strong and had been doing special exercises. Would I please take a look at him? He was a first-year student at Stellenbosch at the time and the season was about to start.

                                      I walked down to where the under-19's were having a practice game and asked the coach: "Do you have a Du Toit here?" and he said: "Yes".

                                      I asked him in which position he was playing and the coach told me he was in the front row. "That's where I want to see him" I said and watched for a while.

                                      "We have two Springboks here, that prop and his hooker," I said afterwards. Those two were Piet du Toit and Abie Malan, and together they went - all the way from under-19 to the Springbok team.

                                      Piet "Spiere" du Toit was one of the strongest men to represent the Springboks in the front row. He did not look all that strong but, by gad, he was incredible."

                                      Hempies du Toit toured in 1981. Also a strong TH.

                                      “ McLean, whose 1963 tour account "Willie Away" -- named for the line-out peel-off move borrowed from the French and perfected by Whineray -- may represent the peak of his own unique contribution to New Zealand rugby culture as he wrote: "I would unhesitatingly name him as New Zealand's greatest captain."

                                      He also earned his place in the roll of great rugby one-liners, stunning rugged Bok prop Piet du Toit, notorious for testing the outer limits of scrummaging legality, by asking: "Do you have to spoil every match you play in?"

                                      Spiere Afrikaans for “Muscles”?

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                                      @pakman yes

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                                        @pakman yes

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