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Rebels v Hurricanes

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  • D Darren

    I did see Ardie was cited

    "The Commissioner determined that the incident had met the threshold for a red card and the All Black will now face a hearing before the SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee on Monday 6 March 2023, via video-conference."

    My guess is 2 weeks.

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    @Darren said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

    I did see Ardie was cited

    "The Commissioner determined that the incident had met the threshold for a red card and the All Black will now face a hearing before the SANZAAR Foul Play Review Committee on Monday 6 March 2023, via video-conference."

    My guess is 2 weeks.

    Anyway see what law he is cited under?

    Edit: Savea is alleged to have contravened Law 9.27: A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship.

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      9.27 A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship including but not limited to:

      Hair pulling
      Spitting at anyone
      Grabbing, twisting or squeezing the genitals (and/or breasts in the case of female players)
      Other

      Massive virtue signalling by officials to equate a verbal dispute that includes a gesture with hair pulling, spitting or ball squeezing.

      Everyone agrees that it wasn’t a good look but this law isn’t about game repute it is about foul play toward others.
      Oh well, let the lawyers nut it out.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        9.27 A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship including but not limited to:

        Hair pulling
        Spitting at anyone
        Grabbing, twisting or squeezing the genitals (and/or breasts in the case of female players)
        Other

        Massive virtue signalling by officials to equate a verbal dispute that includes a gesture with hair pulling, spitting or ball squeezing.

        Everyone agrees that it wasn’t a good look but this law isn’t about game repute it is about foul play toward others.
        Oh well, let the lawyers nut it out.

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        @Crucial I would suggest that the Stan rugby panel achieved their result on Friday night I not sure Ardie will defend it, he has already said he was wrong just we may hear what was said that got him and Numia so fired up.

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        • Dan54D Dan54

          @Crucial I would suggest that the Stan rugby panel achieved their result on Friday night I not sure Ardie will defend it, he has already said he was wrong just we may hear what was said that got him and Numia so fired up.

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          @Dan54 said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

          @Crucial I would suggest that the Stan rugby panel achieved their result on Friday night I not sure Ardie will defend it, he has already said he was wrong just we may hear what was said that got him and Numia so fired up.

          Jeez it would crack me up if it turned out to be a racial jibe.
          Not throwing stones here just imaging the egg on the faces.
          Ardie: I tried to put it to bed after the game but as you insisted on dragging things into the court of record, here’s what went down.

          Citing Commissioner gets cited for bringing the game into disrepute. 🙀

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          • Dan54D Dan54

            @Crucial I would suggest that the Stan rugby panel achieved their result on Friday night I not sure Ardie will defend it, he has already said he was wrong just we may hear what was said that got him and Numia so fired up.

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            @Dan54 said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

            @Crucial I would suggest that the Stan rugby panel achieved their result on Friday night I not sure Ardie will defend it, he has already said he was wrong just we may hear what was said that got him and Numia so fired up.

            Shite happens on the field. Sure it didn't look great, but I am sure lots of off colour stuff gets said during a game that the cameras don't pick up. And it's not like he actually tried to kill someone....

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              So - if the citings are upheld - Ardie could be suspended for the Blues & Waratahs games and Mafileo (probably 3 weeks out) also for the MP game.

              Somehow, I can't imagine Ardie's citing being upheld. It's just too ridiculous.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                So - if the citings are upheld - Ardie could be suspended for the Blues & Waratahs games and Mafileo (probably 3 weeks out) also for the MP game.

                Somehow, I can't imagine Ardie's citing being upheld. It's just too ridiculous.

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                @Stargazer hurt feelings is a big deal these days, plus, he threatened to kill him!

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Machpants haha I know, some of the headlines 'threatened to kill' haha wtf.

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                  @taniwharugby said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                  @Machpants haha I know, some of the headlines 'threatened to kill' haha wtf.

                  Is Brian O’Driscoll the citing commissioner now ?

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @taniwharugby said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                    @Machpants haha I know, some of the headlines 'threatened to kill' haha wtf.

                    Is Brian O’Driscoll the citing commissioner now ?

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                    @MN5 said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                    @taniwharugby said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                    @Machpants haha I know, some of the headlines 'threatened to kill' haha wtf.

                    Is Brian O’Driscoll the citing commissioner now ?

                    That fruit was hanging so low you had to pick it up off the ground...

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @MN5 said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                      @taniwharugby said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                      @Machpants haha I know, some of the headlines 'threatened to kill' haha wtf.

                      Is Brian O’Driscoll the citing commissioner now ?

                      That fruit was hanging so low you had to pick it up off the ground...

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                      @canefan said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                      @MN5 said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                      @taniwharugby said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                      @Machpants haha I know, some of the headlines 'threatened to kill' haha wtf.

                      Is Brian O’Driscoll the citing commissioner now ?

                      That fruit was hanging so low you had to pick it up off the ground...

                      Either that or go into the Foster thread and mention how fat he is

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                        I haven't seen what Ardie did but it was a throat slitting gesture right? Don't the ABs do the same thing at the end of the haka? I recall a bit of a kerfuffle a few years back about it.

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          I haven't seen what Ardie did but it was a throat slitting gesture right? Don't the ABs do the same thing at the end of the haka? I recall a bit of a kerfuffle a few years back about it.

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                          @Crazy-Horse
                          https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1631597322013659137

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                            @Crazy-Horse
                            https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1631597322013659137

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                            #333

                            @Stargazer said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                            @Crazy-Horse
                            https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1631597322013659137

                            Bid deal. Tempers were raised and ardie expressed regret afterwards. Much worse is actual physical damage.

                            Seemed a harsh yellow too

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                              @Crazy-Horse
                              https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1631597322013659137

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                              @Stargazer said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                              @Crazy-Horse
                              https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1631597322013659137

                              I've never seen Ardie get that mad before. I wonder that really happened?

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                              • WingerW Winger

                                @Stargazer said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                                @Crazy-Horse
                                https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1631597322013659137

                                Bid deal. Tempers were raised and ardie expressed regret afterwards. Much worse is actual physical damage.

                                Seemed a harsh yellow too

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                                @Winger IMO, it was a deserved team yellow. The Rebels should have gotten one, too.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @Winger IMO, it was a deserved team yellow. The Rebels should have gotten one, too.

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                                  @Stargazer said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                                  @Winger IMO, it was a deserved team yellow. The Rebels should have gotten one, too.

                                  I haven't seen the full match. But seemed completely over the top from this clip

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                                  • WingerW Winger

                                    @Stargazer said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                                    @Crazy-Horse
                                    https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1631597322013659137

                                    Bid deal. Tempers were raised and ardie expressed regret afterwards. Much worse is actual physical damage.

                                    Seemed a harsh yellow too

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                                    @Winger said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                                    Seemed a harsh yellow too

                                    It was entirely preventable. Why would the captain throw someone out of the scuffle - all it did was escalate the situation.

                                    As for the throat-slitting gesture - it seems like the type of thing in US sport that would be dealt with via a fine not a suspension. However, since that isn't really an option here - I would expect him to be suspended as SANZAAR won't want to be seen to be doing nothing.

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @Stargazer said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                                      @Crazy-Horse
                                      https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1631597322013659137

                                      I've never seen Ardie get that mad before. I wonder that really happened?

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                                      @canefan said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                                      @Stargazer said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                                      @Crazy-Horse
                                      https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1631597322013659137

                                      I've never seen Ardie get that mad before. I wonder that really happened?

                                      I’m guessing he mentioned something about John Farnham wanting his haircut back and it escalated from there

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @canefan said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                                        @Stargazer said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                                        @Crazy-Horse
                                        https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1631597322013659137

                                        I've never seen Ardie get that mad before. I wonder that really happened?

                                        I’m guessing he mentioned something about John Farnham wanting his haircut back and it escalated from there

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                                        @MN5 said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                                        @canefan said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                                        @Stargazer said in Rebels v Hurricanes:

                                        @Crazy-Horse
                                        https://twitter.com/StanSportRugby/status/1631597322013659137

                                        I've never seen Ardie get that mad before. I wonder that really happened?

                                        I’m guessing he mentioned something about John Farnham wanting his haircut back and it escalated from there

                                        Johnny or even your average 80s WWF wrestler would be very at home with that do

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                                          Hopefully the hearing asks what blue 10 was even doing where he was for Ardie to pull him out of it. If anyone escalated the situation it was him. Comes from 20 metres away to push his way through a melee and get over the top of players on the ground.
                                          He is the aggressor here and gets rightly pull out before doing something even stupider than he already has.
                                          Refs first line of thought should have been to see who was mixed in there that shouldn’t have been.

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