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Blues v Brumbies

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  • NTAN Offline
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    DMac is a much better player after his Japan stint

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      Christ, that was a tough wank

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      @nzzp said in Blues v Brumbies:

      Christ, that was a tough wank

      Didn't even get the finish.

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      • number9N number9

        @Chris I believe DMac was better than Ritchie in Rd2. Either way BB is not up our man at 10.

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        @number9 said in Blues v Brumbies:

        Either way BB is not up our man at 10.

        Noted the 4000th time by a Fern poster.
        Yet, he'll probably be picked as the backup because he seems to be the first in line fullback.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @kev said in Blues v Brumbies:

          There is no way with the talent they have the Blues should lose a game like that. Is the players or the coaches? Same weaknesses in ABs. In ability to play % and apply pressure. They played their best rugby with 13 when they held the ball.

          Same coach killing players that are in the ABs.

          But hey, it’s Foster that wrecks them and Rangi will join Razor to put things right……

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          @Crucial said in Blues v Brumbies:

          @kev said in Blues v Brumbies:

          There is no way with the talent they have the Blues should lose a game like that. Is the players or the coaches? Same weaknesses in ABs. In ability to play % and apply pressure. They played their best rugby with 13 when they held the ball.

          Same coach killing players that are in the ABs.

          But hey, it’s Foster that wrecks them and Rangi will join Razor to put things right……

          Try to keep your bitterness to the Foster/Robertson thread you love so much.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            RTS has far outplayed Tua today.

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            @KiwiMurph But Tua will have the biggest smile at games end

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            • FrankF Frank

              @Crucial said in Blues v Brumbies:

              @kev said in Blues v Brumbies:

              There is no way with the talent they have the Blues should lose a game like that. Is the players or the coaches? Same weaknesses in ABs. In ability to play % and apply pressure. They played their best rugby with 13 when they held the ball.

              Same coach killing players that are in the ABs.

              But hey, it’s Foster that wrecks them and Rangi will join Razor to put things right……

              Try to keep your bitterness to the Foster/Robertson thread you love so much.

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              #194

              @Frank said in Blues v Brumbies:

              @Crucial said in Blues v Brumbies:

              @kev said in Blues v Brumbies:

              There is no way with the talent they have the Blues should lose a game like that. Is the players or the coaches? Same weaknesses in ABs. In ability to play % and apply pressure. They played their best rugby with 13 when they held the ball.

              Same coach killing players that are in the ABs.

              But hey, it’s Foster that wrecks them and Rangi will join Razor to put things right……

              Try to keep your bitterness to the Foster/Robertson thread you love so much.

              Why. It’s a valid observation. Nothing bitter.
              When talking AB failings the coach gets the blame.
              The same players have just aired their failings in this game at a lower level under a supposedly better coach.
              Maybe it’s a pointer to where some of the problems lie?

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              • FrankF Frank

                @Crucial said in Blues v Brumbies:

                @kev said in Blues v Brumbies:

                There is no way with the talent they have the Blues should lose a game like that. Is the players or the coaches? Same weaknesses in ABs. In ability to play % and apply pressure. They played their best rugby with 13 when they held the ball.

                Same coach killing players that are in the ABs.

                But hey, it’s Foster that wrecks them and Rangi will join Razor to put things right……

                Try to keep your bitterness to the Foster/Robertson thread you love so much.

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                @Crucial said in Blues v Brumbies:

                But hey, it’s Foster that wrecks them and Rangi will join Razor to put things right……

                @Crucial I think Rangi will be a good assistant under Razor at international level but I'm not convinced he's a great head coach at the top level, he is guilty of poor selections & he doesn't use his bench effectively, Blues could've won that game if they had used their bench properly..

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                • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                  @Crucial said in Blues v Brumbies:

                  But hey, it’s Foster that wrecks them and Rangi will join Razor to put things right……

                  @Crucial I think Rangi will be a good assistant under Razor at international level but I'm not convinced he's a great head coach at the top level, he is guilty of poor selections & he doesn't use his bench effectively, Blues could've won that game if they had used their bench properly..

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                  taniwharugby
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                  @kiwi_expat yeah aside from DP who looked to have a minor injury, looked like he took off most of his better players fairly early.

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                  • number9N number9

                    @Chris I believe DMac was better than Ritchie in Rd2. Either way BB is not up our man at 10.

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                    @number9 said in Blues v Brumbies:

                    @Chris I believe DMac was better than Ritchie in Rd2. Either way BB is not up our man at 10.

                    BB has never been a tactical or game managing 10.
                    His abilities are more in taking advantage of situations in front of him.
                    Not what we need at test level against good teams.
                    He should have steered that game around but was pretty average.

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                      Nit a great result for the Blues, but good for the competition I think.

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                        @KiwiMurph But Tua will have the biggest smile at games end

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                        @Steven-Harris said in Blues v Brumbies:

                        @KiwiMurph But Tua will have the biggest smile at games end

                        Sure. But he's an average player.

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                          Blues did well on defence. Gave up no penalties in own half second half under lots of pressure. Brumbies should have won comfortably but for that.
                          Rieko just does not cut it at 13 for me. I thought Christie was pretty good unlike others. Riccitelli and Robinson were too.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @Steven-Harris said in Blues v Brumbies:

                            @KiwiMurph But Tua will have the biggest smile at games end

                            Sure. But he's an average player.

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                            @KiwiMurph hes getting game time with a good team ,you dont get better sitting in your number 1s
                            Your quick to critique Tua who is still getting use to playing a completely different style
                            Funny thing is the Blues actually offered him a contract but even Tua knew he would get little game time
                            He would’nt be the first player at the Blues that has been stuck in the squad never to recieve game time but has succeed once they left
                            Over the years theres been some players at the Blues who have had opportunities for Africa but never delivered
                            Had a great NPC based on form but previously has had a wretched time with injuries

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                              What did others think of Perofeta? I noticed some good play and a willingness to get involved. It didn’t translate to much though. He doesn’t seem to make much impact with his touches despite not making errors.
                              In a RWC squad his spot is under pressure from both Stevenson and DMac

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                What did others think of Perofeta? I noticed some good play and a willingness to get involved. It didn’t translate to much though. He doesn’t seem to make much impact with his touches despite not making errors.
                                In a RWC squad his spot is under pressure from both Stevenson and DMac

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                                @Crucial said in Blues v Brumbies:

                                What did others think of Perofeta? I noticed some good play and a willingness to get involved. It didn’t translate to much though. He doesn’t seem to make much impact with his touches despite not making errors.
                                In a RWC squad his spot is under pressure from both Stevenson and DMac

                                Needs game-time at Test level.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  Need to sub Christie.

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                                  @Tim said in Blues v Brumbies:

                                  Need to sub Christie.

                                  Given how well I thought his replacement played, this probably happened a little too late. Not an easy decision to sub an AB halfback off when it’s a close game and you are down on the scoreboard.

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                                  • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                    Sheesh scoreless second half. What a slog.

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                                    @Yeetyaah said in Blues v Brumbies:

                                    Sheesh scoreless second half. What a slog.

                                    That’s a Brumbies game for ya! They love an arm wrestle.

                                    But it was a hot afternoon in Melbourne and I reckon the conditions may have played a part.

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @Tim said in Blues v Brumbies:

                                      Need to sub Christie.

                                      Given how well I thought his replacement played, this probably happened a little too late. Not an easy decision to sub an AB halfback off when it’s a close game and you are down on the scoreboard.

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in Blues v Brumbies:

                                      @Tim said in Blues v Brumbies:

                                      Need to sub Christie.

                                      Given how well I thought his replacement played, this probably happened a little too late. Not an easy decision to sub an AB halfback off when it’s a close game and you are down on the scoreboard.

                                      I thought Christie was fine - good last week and this week. Does his core stuff well, particularly under pressure. Not error free, but solid - and distributes reasonably well.

                                      Funaki looked bloody good though, but I still wouldn't start him. Would stick with Christie for now.

                                      We did not play that ref at all well. Conceded massive penalties - I'll go and look it up, but we weren't good enough to overlcome it.

                                      17-9 Penalty count. 5 points. Frustrating watch.

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                                        @KiwiMurph hes getting game time with a good team ,you dont get better sitting in your number 1s
                                        Your quick to critique Tua who is still getting use to playing a completely different style
                                        Funny thing is the Blues actually offered him a contract but even Tua knew he would get little game time
                                        He would’nt be the first player at the Blues that has been stuck in the squad never to recieve game time but has succeed once they left
                                        Over the years theres been some players at the Blues who have had opportunities for Africa but never delivered
                                        Had a great NPC based on form but previously has had a wretched time with injuries

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                                        @Steven-Harris said in Blues v Brumbies:

                                        @KiwiMurph hes getting game time with a good team ,you dont get better sitting in your number 1s
                                        Your quick to critique Tua who is still getting use to playing a completely different style
                                        Funny thing is the Blues actually offered him a contract but even Tua knew he would get little game time
                                        He would’nt be the first player at the Blues that has been stuck in the squad never to recieve game time but has succeed once they left
                                        Over the years theres been some players at the Blues who have had opportunities for Africa but never delivered
                                        Had a great NPC based on form but previously has had a wretched time with injuries

                                        I agree with most of that.

                                        However I would dispute Tua had a 'great' npc - he was serviceable but still had a high error rate as he usually does - (when he wasn't injured). Obviously much better than the likes of Hohaia but cripes that dude is a club player.

                                        He made the right call going to Brumbies. Better than being stuck on the bench/not playing.

                                        Completely agree certain players get way more chances than others.

                                        I find Tua gets a free ride on here though. Because he plays for Northland his shortcomings get overlooked because he flashes talent every now and then or because people know him personally or something. It's weird.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @Steven-Harris said in Blues v Brumbies:

                                          @KiwiMurph hes getting game time with a good team ,you dont get better sitting in your number 1s
                                          Your quick to critique Tua who is still getting use to playing a completely different style
                                          Funny thing is the Blues actually offered him a contract but even Tua knew he would get little game time
                                          He would’nt be the first player at the Blues that has been stuck in the squad never to recieve game time but has succeed once they left
                                          Over the years theres been some players at the Blues who have had opportunities for Africa but never delivered
                                          Had a great NPC based on form but previously has had a wretched time with injuries

                                          I agree with most of that.

                                          However I would dispute Tua had a 'great' npc - he was serviceable but still had a high error rate as he usually does - (when he wasn't injured). Obviously much better than the likes of Hohaia but cripes that dude is a club player.

                                          He made the right call going to Brumbies. Better than being stuck on the bench/not playing.

                                          Completely agree certain players get way more chances than others.

                                          I find Tua gets a free ride on here though. Because he plays for Northland his shortcomings get overlooked because he flashes talent every now and then or because people know him personally or something. It's weird.

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                                          @KiwiMurph i will agree thats its taken him time to deliver especially for the Taniwha .he is still a concern defensively but hoping consistant game time and coaching will address that ..hopefully

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