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Blues v Waratahs

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    First of all do we know anything about the injuries? I think some of these guys should be dude back: Akira, RTS Heem?

    Tahs made some good breaks in the weekend but they really set their backline deep. Hopefully the Blues have some good line speed and give Foketi/Perese less time to think

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    @Duluth

    Sounds like Akira Ioane will be back. Does he start or come off the bench?

    If Heem is available, do you start him or Plummer at 12?

    Suafoa or Tucker on the bench at 19?

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    • TimT Tim

      @Duluth

      Sounds like Akira Ioane will be back. Does he start or come off the bench?

      If Heem is available, do you start him or Plummer at 12?

      Suafoa or Tucker on the bench at 19?

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      @Tim said in Blues v Waratahs:

      @Duluth

      Sounds like Akira Ioane will be back. Does he start or come off the bench?

      If Heem is available, do you start him or Plummer at 12?

      Suafoa or Tucker on the bench at 19?

      My picks:
      Start Ioane and play him until he runs out of gas
      Heem is a great bench option and Plummer deserves another start
      Suafoa > Tucker. His carrying late in the game against tired defences is great.

      Assuming a 5/3 split who is the loosie cover? Segner, Choat, Robinson? I don’t think Robinson covers the right spots

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @Tim said in Blues v Waratahs:

        @Duluth

        Sounds like Akira Ioane will be back. Does he start or come off the bench?

        If Heem is available, do you start him or Plummer at 12?

        Suafoa or Tucker on the bench at 19?

        My picks:
        Start Ioane and play him until he runs out of gas
        Heem is a great bench option and Plummer deserves another start
        Suafoa > Tucker. His carrying late in the game against tired defences is great.

        Assuming a 5/3 split who is the loosie cover? Segner, Choat, Robinson? I don’t think Robinson covers the right spots

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        @Duluth Choat is probably the best value off the bench? Defence is particularly good.

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        • TimT Tim

          @Duluth Choat is probably the best value off the bench? Defence is particularly good.

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          @Tim

          I'd go with Choat's defence. I think they'll pick Segner though. They are both playing well so I don't really care

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            I'm guessing they will stick with Jordan Lay at loosehead, and James Lay as bench tighthead? It would be good to see Tu'ungufasi get a start at tighthead. Still think we are lacking output from our frontrow a bit, even if the scrum is good now. Hope Funaki gets bench time. Robinson offers height off the bench, but Choat is pretty integral to this team. Final back reserve is an interesting one. Lam or Sullivan? Haven't been impressed by Kneepkens.

            1 Jordan Lay
            2 Riccitelli
            3 Laulala
            4 Tuipulotu
            5 Darry
            6 Ioane
            7 Papalii
            8 Sotutu

            9 Christie
            10 Barrett
            11 Clarke
            12 Plummer
            13 Ioane
            14 Telea
            15 Perofeta

            16 Vikena
            17 Tu'ungufasi
            18 James Lay
            19 Suafoa
            20 Choat
            21 Funaki
            22 Heem
            23 Lam

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            • TimT Tim

              I'm guessing they will stick with Jordan Lay at loosehead, and James Lay as bench tighthead? It would be good to see Tu'ungufasi get a start at tighthead. Still think we are lacking output from our frontrow a bit, even if the scrum is good now. Hope Funaki gets bench time. Robinson offers height off the bench, but Choat is pretty integral to this team. Final back reserve is an interesting one. Lam or Sullivan? Haven't been impressed by Kneepkens.

              1 Jordan Lay
              2 Riccitelli
              3 Laulala
              4 Tuipulotu
              5 Darry
              6 Ioane
              7 Papalii
              8 Sotutu

              9 Christie
              10 Barrett
              11 Clarke
              12 Plummer
              13 Ioane
              14 Telea
              15 Perofeta

              16 Vikena
              17 Tu'ungufasi
              18 James Lay
              19 Suafoa
              20 Choat
              21 Funaki
              22 Heem
              23 Lam

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              @Tim said in Blues v Waratahs:

              Lam or Sullivan

              If you've guessed everything else right I would say Sullivan. Heem covers 11-14 and there isn't good fullback cover
              (Otherwise a fullback injury would probably result in multiple changes BB to 15, Plummer to 10, Heem to 12)

              Plus I want Sullivan to get some time so we can start him at 15 vs the Drua in Fiji the following week. His kicking distance will be useful

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                There’s some photos around of training. RTS still has plenty of wrapping on his hand so he won’t be available. Papali’i wasn’t wearing the same jersey as the likely starters, I wonder if he has a niggle?

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  This should be an absolute bloodbath

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                  @mariner4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

                  This should be an absolute bloodbath

                  That's being generous

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                  • NTAN NTA

                    @mariner4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

                    This should be an absolute bloodbath

                    That's being generous

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                    @NTA

                    But you also claimed the Chiefs v Tahs game would "be a fucking slaughter". It wasn't a slaughter, it was more of an arm wrestle. Chiefs probably got dragged down to the Tahs level.. but still it was competitive

                    Predicting the worst each week so you can get surprised by an OKish performance?

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @NTA

                      But you also claimed the Chiefs v Tahs game would "be a fucking slaughter". It wasn't a slaughter, it was more of an arm wrestle. Chiefs probably got dragged down to the Tahs level.. but still it was competitive

                      Predicting the worst each week so you can get surprised by an OKish performance?

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                      @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

                      @NTA

                      Predicting the worst each week so you can get surprised by an OKish performance?

                      Something I've practiced as a Warriors fan for many years.

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        @NTA

                        But you also claimed the Chiefs v Tahs game would "be a fucking slaughter". It wasn't a slaughter, it was more of an arm wrestle. Chiefs probably got dragged down to the Tahs level.. but still it was competitive

                        Predicting the worst each week so you can get surprised by an OKish performance?

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                        @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

                        But you also claimed the Chiefs v Tahs game would "be a fucking slaughter". It wasn't a slaughter, it was more of an arm wrestle.

                        From memory the chiefs didn't field nearly their best team, and those out there didn't put in nearly their best performance.

                        Don't think the blues will be as bad at home

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                          They are 2-5

                          Defensively they have given up 31 and 40 to the Brumbies, and 34 to both the Rebels and the Canes

                          Their for-and-against is really bolstered by getting to play the Drua in Melbourne, and their home game against the Force.
                          They've played two games against NZ sides and scored 14 and 17 points

                          Against the Blues (a team i think has the ability to put on points faster than any other side in teh comp) i expect them to concede a pretty high score. And i don't have faith in them to put on more than 20.

                          Evidence so far points to a 20 point loss

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            They are 2-5

                            Defensively they have given up 31 and 40 to the Brumbies, and 34 to both the Rebels and the Canes

                            Their for-and-against is really bolstered by getting to play the Drua in Melbourne, and their home game against the Force.
                            They've played two games against NZ sides and scored 14 and 17 points

                            Against the Blues (a team i think has the ability to put on points faster than any other side in teh comp) i expect them to concede a pretty high score. And i don't have faith in them to put on more than 20.

                            Evidence so far points to a 20 point loss

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                            @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                            Players unavailable for selection:
                            Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                            Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                            Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                            Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                            Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                            Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                            Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                            Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                            Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

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                            • NTAN NTA

                              @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                              Players unavailable for selection:
                              Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                              Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                              Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                              Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                              Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                              Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                              Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                              Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                              Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

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                              @NTA said in Blues v Waratahs:

                              @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                              Players unavailable for selection:
                              Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                              Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                              Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                              Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                              Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                              Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                              Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                              Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                              Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

                              Lachlan Swinton - Brain (Finals)

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                They are 2-5

                                Defensively they have given up 31 and 40 to the Brumbies, and 34 to both the Rebels and the Canes

                                Their for-and-against is really bolstered by getting to play the Drua in Melbourne, and their home game against the Force.
                                They've played two games against NZ sides and scored 14 and 17 points

                                Against the Blues (a team i think has the ability to put on points faster than any other side in teh comp) i expect them to concede a pretty high score. And i don't have faith in them to put on more than 20.

                                Evidence so far points to a 20 point loss

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                                @mariner4life they should’ve won that Brumbies game, but nonetheless they still shipped a lot of points. I think they are going to get pumped with all their injuries.

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @mariner4life they should’ve won that Brumbies game, but nonetheless they still shipped a lot of points. I think they are going to get pumped with all their injuries.

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                                  @ACT-Crusader said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                  @mariner4life they should’ve won that Brumbies game, but nonetheless they still shipped a lot of points. I think they are going to get pumped with all their injuries.

                                  Yeah, @NTA cant count. This is Round/Week 8

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @NTA said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                    @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                                    Players unavailable for selection:
                                    Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                                    Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                                    Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                                    Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                                    Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                                    Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                                    Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                                    Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                                    Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

                                    Lachlan Swinton - Brain (Finals)

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                                    @Crucial said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                    @NTA said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                    @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                                    Players unavailable for selection:
                                    Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                                    Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                                    Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                                    Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                                    Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                                    Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                                    Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                                    Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                                    Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

                                    Lachlan Swinton - Brain (Finals)

                                    Apparently Porecki and Holloway are both out injured.

                                    Gleeson may play (calf).

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @Crucial said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                      @NTA said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                      @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                                      Players unavailable for selection:
                                      Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                                      Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                                      Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                                      Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                                      Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                                      Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                                      Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                                      Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                                      Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

                                      Lachlan Swinton - Brain (Finals)

                                      Apparently Porecki and Holloway are both out injured.

                                      Gleeson may play (calf).

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                      @Crucial said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                      @NTA said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                      @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                                      Players unavailable for selection:
                                      Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                                      Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                                      Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                                      Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                                      Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                                      Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                                      Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                                      Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                                      Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

                                      Lachlan Swinton - Brain (Finals)

                                      Apparently Porecki and Holloway are both out injured.

                                      Gleeson may play (calf).

                                      Langi appears to be in that space where young promising talent keep getting injured as their bodies have yet to adapt to the demands of professional footy.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        They are 2-5

                                        Defensively they have given up 31 and 40 to the Brumbies, and 34 to both the Rebels and the Canes

                                        Their for-and-against is really bolstered by getting to play the Drua in Melbourne, and their home game against the Force.
                                        They've played two games against NZ sides and scored 14 and 17 points

                                        Against the Blues (a team i think has the ability to put on points faster than any other side in teh comp) i expect them to concede a pretty high score. And i don't have faith in them to put on more than 20.

                                        Evidence so far points to a 20 point loss

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                                        @mariner4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                        Defensively they have given up 31 and 40 to the Brumbies

                                        25-31 and 36-40

                                        That second game in Canberra was impressive.

                                        I said earlier that I think the Blues should win relatively comfortably but I think the Tahs can be awkward particularly if they get momentum early.

                                        Only one side has beaten them comfortably so far (the Hurricanes). The other matches were losing bonus points, or the Chiefs match where the gap was 3 points with a few minutes left.

                                        So far, they've been hard to put away. I hope we thrash them

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                                          https://www.blues.rugby/blues-rugby-news/team-naming-v-waratahs

                                          1 Ofa Tuungafasi
                                          2 Ricky Riccitelli
                                          3 Nepo Laulala
                                          4 Patrick Tuipulotu (c)
                                          5 Sam Darry
                                          6 Anton Segner
                                          7 Adrian Choat
                                          8 Hoskins Sotutu
                                          9 Finlay Christie
                                          10 Beauden Barrett – 150 Super Rugby Games
                                          11 Caleb Clarke
                                          12 Harry Plummer – 50 Blues Games
                                          13 Rieko Ioane
                                          14 Mark Telea
                                          15 Stephen Perofeta

                                          Reserves:
                                          16 Soane Vikena
                                          17 Jordan Lay
                                          18 James Lay
                                          19 Cameron Suafoa
                                          20 Akira Ioane
                                          21 Sam Nock
                                          22 Bryce Heem
                                          23 Zarn Sullivan

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