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Blues v Waratahs

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    @Tim said in Blues v Waratahs:

    @Duluth

    Sounds like Akira Ioane will be back. Does he start or come off the bench?

    If Heem is available, do you start him or Plummer at 12?

    Suafoa or Tucker on the bench at 19?

    My picks:
    Start Ioane and play him until he runs out of gas
    Heem is a great bench option and Plummer deserves another start
    Suafoa > Tucker. His carrying late in the game against tired defences is great.

    Assuming a 5/3 split who is the loosie cover? Segner, Choat, Robinson? I don’t think Robinson covers the right spots

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    @Duluth Choat is probably the best value off the bench? Defence is particularly good.

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    • TimT Tim

      @Duluth Choat is probably the best value off the bench? Defence is particularly good.

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      @Tim

      I'd go with Choat's defence. I think they'll pick Segner though. They are both playing well so I don't really care

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        I'm guessing they will stick with Jordan Lay at loosehead, and James Lay as bench tighthead? It would be good to see Tu'ungufasi get a start at tighthead. Still think we are lacking output from our frontrow a bit, even if the scrum is good now. Hope Funaki gets bench time. Robinson offers height off the bench, but Choat is pretty integral to this team. Final back reserve is an interesting one. Lam or Sullivan? Haven't been impressed by Kneepkens.

        1 Jordan Lay
        2 Riccitelli
        3 Laulala
        4 Tuipulotu
        5 Darry
        6 Ioane
        7 Papalii
        8 Sotutu

        9 Christie
        10 Barrett
        11 Clarke
        12 Plummer
        13 Ioane
        14 Telea
        15 Perofeta

        16 Vikena
        17 Tu'ungufasi
        18 James Lay
        19 Suafoa
        20 Choat
        21 Funaki
        22 Heem
        23 Lam

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        • TimT Tim

          I'm guessing they will stick with Jordan Lay at loosehead, and James Lay as bench tighthead? It would be good to see Tu'ungufasi get a start at tighthead. Still think we are lacking output from our frontrow a bit, even if the scrum is good now. Hope Funaki gets bench time. Robinson offers height off the bench, but Choat is pretty integral to this team. Final back reserve is an interesting one. Lam or Sullivan? Haven't been impressed by Kneepkens.

          1 Jordan Lay
          2 Riccitelli
          3 Laulala
          4 Tuipulotu
          5 Darry
          6 Ioane
          7 Papalii
          8 Sotutu

          9 Christie
          10 Barrett
          11 Clarke
          12 Plummer
          13 Ioane
          14 Telea
          15 Perofeta

          16 Vikena
          17 Tu'ungufasi
          18 James Lay
          19 Suafoa
          20 Choat
          21 Funaki
          22 Heem
          23 Lam

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          @Tim said in Blues v Waratahs:

          Lam or Sullivan

          If you've guessed everything else right I would say Sullivan. Heem covers 11-14 and there isn't good fullback cover
          (Otherwise a fullback injury would probably result in multiple changes BB to 15, Plummer to 10, Heem to 12)

          Plus I want Sullivan to get some time so we can start him at 15 vs the Drua in Fiji the following week. His kicking distance will be useful

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            There’s some photos around of training. RTS still has plenty of wrapping on his hand so he won’t be available. Papali’i wasn’t wearing the same jersey as the likely starters, I wonder if he has a niggle?

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              This should be an absolute bloodbath

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              @mariner4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

              This should be an absolute bloodbath

              That's being generous

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              • NTAN NTA

                @mariner4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

                This should be an absolute bloodbath

                That's being generous

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                @NTA

                But you also claimed the Chiefs v Tahs game would "be a fucking slaughter". It wasn't a slaughter, it was more of an arm wrestle. Chiefs probably got dragged down to the Tahs level.. but still it was competitive

                Predicting the worst each week so you can get surprised by an OKish performance?

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @NTA

                  But you also claimed the Chiefs v Tahs game would "be a fucking slaughter". It wasn't a slaughter, it was more of an arm wrestle. Chiefs probably got dragged down to the Tahs level.. but still it was competitive

                  Predicting the worst each week so you can get surprised by an OKish performance?

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                  @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

                  @NTA

                  Predicting the worst each week so you can get surprised by an OKish performance?

                  Something I've practiced as a Warriors fan for many years.

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @NTA

                    But you also claimed the Chiefs v Tahs game would "be a fucking slaughter". It wasn't a slaughter, it was more of an arm wrestle. Chiefs probably got dragged down to the Tahs level.. but still it was competitive

                    Predicting the worst each week so you can get surprised by an OKish performance?

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                    @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

                    But you also claimed the Chiefs v Tahs game would "be a fucking slaughter". It wasn't a slaughter, it was more of an arm wrestle.

                    From memory the chiefs didn't field nearly their best team, and those out there didn't put in nearly their best performance.

                    Don't think the blues will be as bad at home

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                      They are 2-5

                      Defensively they have given up 31 and 40 to the Brumbies, and 34 to both the Rebels and the Canes

                      Their for-and-against is really bolstered by getting to play the Drua in Melbourne, and their home game against the Force.
                      They've played two games against NZ sides and scored 14 and 17 points

                      Against the Blues (a team i think has the ability to put on points faster than any other side in teh comp) i expect them to concede a pretty high score. And i don't have faith in them to put on more than 20.

                      Evidence so far points to a 20 point loss

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        They are 2-5

                        Defensively they have given up 31 and 40 to the Brumbies, and 34 to both the Rebels and the Canes

                        Their for-and-against is really bolstered by getting to play the Drua in Melbourne, and their home game against the Force.
                        They've played two games against NZ sides and scored 14 and 17 points

                        Against the Blues (a team i think has the ability to put on points faster than any other side in teh comp) i expect them to concede a pretty high score. And i don't have faith in them to put on more than 20.

                        Evidence so far points to a 20 point loss

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                        @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                        Players unavailable for selection:
                        Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                        Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                        Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                        Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                        Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                        Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                        Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                        Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                        Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

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                        • NTAN NTA

                          @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                          Players unavailable for selection:
                          Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                          Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                          Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                          Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                          Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                          Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                          Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                          Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                          Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

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                          @NTA said in Blues v Waratahs:

                          @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                          Players unavailable for selection:
                          Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                          Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                          Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                          Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                          Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                          Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                          Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                          Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                          Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

                          Lachlan Swinton - Brain (Finals)

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            They are 2-5

                            Defensively they have given up 31 and 40 to the Brumbies, and 34 to both the Rebels and the Canes

                            Their for-and-against is really bolstered by getting to play the Drua in Melbourne, and their home game against the Force.
                            They've played two games against NZ sides and scored 14 and 17 points

                            Against the Blues (a team i think has the ability to put on points faster than any other side in teh comp) i expect them to concede a pretty high score. And i don't have faith in them to put on more than 20.

                            Evidence so far points to a 20 point loss

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                            @mariner4life they should’ve won that Brumbies game, but nonetheless they still shipped a lot of points. I think they are going to get pumped with all their injuries.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @mariner4life they should’ve won that Brumbies game, but nonetheless they still shipped a lot of points. I think they are going to get pumped with all their injuries.

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in Blues v Waratahs:

                              @mariner4life they should’ve won that Brumbies game, but nonetheless they still shipped a lot of points. I think they are going to get pumped with all their injuries.

                              Yeah, @NTA cant count. This is Round/Week 8

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                @NTA said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                                Players unavailable for selection:
                                Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                                Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                                Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                                Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                                Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                                Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                                Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                                Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                                Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

                                Lachlan Swinton - Brain (Finals)

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                                @Crucial said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                @NTA said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                                Players unavailable for selection:
                                Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                                Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                                Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                                Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                                Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                                Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                                Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                                Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                                Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

                                Lachlan Swinton - Brain (Finals)

                                Apparently Porecki and Holloway are both out injured.

                                Gleeson may play (calf).

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @Crucial said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                  @NTA said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                  @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                                  Players unavailable for selection:
                                  Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                                  Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                                  Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                                  Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                                  Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                                  Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                                  Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                                  Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                                  Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

                                  Lachlan Swinton - Brain (Finals)

                                  Apparently Porecki and Holloway are both out injured.

                                  Gleeson may play (calf).

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                  @Crucial said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                  @NTA said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                  @mariner4life might depend on the injury toll as to how bad it is; if this is Round 9 then we hopefully see a few back...

                                  Players unavailable for selection:
                                  Angus Bell – Toe (Season)
                                  Charlie Gamble – Shoulder (Round 9+)
                                  Hugh Sinclair – Shoulder (Round 9)
                                  Langi Gleeson – Calf (Round 9)
                                  Mosese Tuipulotu – Knee (Round 9)
                                  Sateki Latu – Neck (Round 9)
                                  Tane Edmed – Back (Round 9)
                                  Tiaan Tauakipulu – Knee (Round 10)
                                  Will Harrison - ACL (Season)

                                  Lachlan Swinton - Brain (Finals)

                                  Apparently Porecki and Holloway are both out injured.

                                  Gleeson may play (calf).

                                  Langi appears to be in that space where young promising talent keep getting injured as their bodies have yet to adapt to the demands of professional footy.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    They are 2-5

                                    Defensively they have given up 31 and 40 to the Brumbies, and 34 to both the Rebels and the Canes

                                    Their for-and-against is really bolstered by getting to play the Drua in Melbourne, and their home game against the Force.
                                    They've played two games against NZ sides and scored 14 and 17 points

                                    Against the Blues (a team i think has the ability to put on points faster than any other side in teh comp) i expect them to concede a pretty high score. And i don't have faith in them to put on more than 20.

                                    Evidence so far points to a 20 point loss

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                                    @mariner4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                    Defensively they have given up 31 and 40 to the Brumbies

                                    25-31 and 36-40

                                    That second game in Canberra was impressive.

                                    I said earlier that I think the Blues should win relatively comfortably but I think the Tahs can be awkward particularly if they get momentum early.

                                    Only one side has beaten them comfortably so far (the Hurricanes). The other matches were losing bonus points, or the Chiefs match where the gap was 3 points with a few minutes left.

                                    So far, they've been hard to put away. I hope we thrash them

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                                      https://www.blues.rugby/blues-rugby-news/team-naming-v-waratahs

                                      1 Ofa Tuungafasi
                                      2 Ricky Riccitelli
                                      3 Nepo Laulala
                                      4 Patrick Tuipulotu (c)
                                      5 Sam Darry
                                      6 Anton Segner
                                      7 Adrian Choat
                                      8 Hoskins Sotutu
                                      9 Finlay Christie
                                      10 Beauden Barrett – 150 Super Rugby Games
                                      11 Caleb Clarke
                                      12 Harry Plummer – 50 Blues Games
                                      13 Rieko Ioane
                                      14 Mark Telea
                                      15 Stephen Perofeta

                                      Reserves:
                                      16 Soane Vikena
                                      17 Jordan Lay
                                      18 James Lay
                                      19 Cameron Suafoa
                                      20 Akira Ioane
                                      21 Sam Nock
                                      22 Bryce Heem
                                      23 Zarn Sullivan

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                                        Players not considered: Alex Hodgman (shoulder, season), AJ Lam (hamstring), Dalton Papalii (ribs), Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (hand)

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                                          Plenty of power coming off that bench

                                          Good to see the injury list shrinking

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