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Blues v Waratahs

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    #246

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300860221/blues-lose-all-blacks-pair-to-injury-as-super-rugby-pacific-surge-continues

    The Blues got big shifts out of their power runners, with clear intent to get the ball to Caleb Clarke (192 metres, six defenders beaten, seven clean breaks), Mark Telea (87m, four tackle-busts and two breaks), Rieko Ioane (86m) and replacement fullback Zarn Sullivan (71m, four defenders beaten). Beauden Barrett also made ground with ball in hand (83m on the carry), as did No 8 Hoskins Sotutu (99m, four tackle-breaks).

    MacDonald said the former Canes rake’s mobility was giving him the selection edge over young comer Soane Vikena and Kurt Eklund at No 2. “He’s getting big numbers in the tackle, carries and cleans, and his workrate has been outstanding. He’s also been more physical in the contact area as well.”

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    • boobooB booboo

      Am watching on delay.

      Am liking Zarn muchly

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      @booboo said in Blues v Waratahs:

      Am watching on delay.

      Am liking Zarn muchly

      Am watching a little more soberer...

      But jeez Zarn is good.

      This year's NMS?

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      • boobooB Offline
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        Comment by TJ ...

        Advancing ahead of the kicker is "a very technical penalty".

        Bollocks.

        It's fucking cheating.

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        • boobooB booboo

          @booboo said in Blues v Waratahs:

          Am watching on delay.

          Am liking Zarn muchly

          Am watching a little more soberer...

          But jeez Zarn is good.

          This year's NMS?

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          @booboo said in Blues v Waratahs:

          @booboo said in Blues v Waratahs:

          Am watching on delay.

          Am liking Zarn muchly

          Am watching a little more soberer...

          But jeez Zarn is good.

          This year's NMS?

          Stephenson may have something to say about that admittedly ...

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          • Jailbreak7J Online
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            Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

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            • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

              Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

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              @Jailbreak7 The way players are dropping through injury, I would say they both get a call.

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              • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

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                @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                I think Zarn

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                • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                  Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

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                  @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                  Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                  I think for the 2023 RWC, Stevenson is ahead of Z Sullivan, if only because Zarn is still a bit of a rookie. For the next RWC cycle, I think Zarn will have the advantage.

                  It will take some injuries for either of them to be part of this year's RWC squad though.

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                  • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                    Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

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                    @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                    Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                    Not just the ceiling but the positional competition?
                    SS a 15 and wing, ZS a 15 and backup 10?

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                    • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                      Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

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                      @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                      Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                      Foster doesn't give a fuck about ceiling it's all about the now for him. It'll be whomever does the best at the pointy end of the season imo

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                        Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                        Not just the ceiling but the positional competition?
                        SS a 15 and wing, ZS a 15 and backup 10?

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                        @nostrildamus said in Blues v Waratahs:

                        Not just the ceiling but the positional competition?
                        SS a 15 and wing, ZS a 15 and backup 10?

                        That's the thing, as you say Stevenson and Sullivan don't cover the same positions. Zarn would be more in competition with BB and DMac in a squad.

                        Players like him will get their opportunity in the AB XV games, but he also needs to show this form in the NZ derbies (if MacDonald selects him).

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                        • Dan54D Offline
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                          I think we all should just cool things a bit , Zarn has had a good game as replacement, and he's in the ABs?? And I do think he alright, but f*** me we need to see a season before we get carried away. I have thought he's had a few good games over the years, but still want to see him string a few togather. We not Australia whare a player has a 5 minute burst and then is the saviour of the country!!:astonished_face:

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                          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                            @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                            Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                            Not just the ceiling but the positional competition?
                            SS a 15 and wing, ZS a 15 and backup 10?

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                            @nostrildamus said in Blues v Waratahs:

                            @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                            Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                            Not just the ceiling but the positional competition?
                            SS a 15 and wing, ZS a 15 and backup 10?

                            I want to see Zarn at 10, but given his lack of experience at 10, at either Super or NPC level, I would hate to see him used in the ABs as a back up 10. It's 15 or nothing for now.

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                            • Dan54D Dan54

                              I think we all should just cool things a bit , Zarn has had a good game as replacement, and he's in the ABs?? And I do think he alright, but f*** me we need to see a season before we get carried away. I have thought he's had a few good games over the years, but still want to see him string a few togather. We not Australia whare a player has a 5 minute burst and then is the saviour of the country!!:astonished_face:

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                              @Dan54 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                              Zarn has had a good game as replacement

                              He's been playing well for a couple of years. Unfortunately behind BB and Perofeta for 15, and has struggled with injuries. So, consistent play and continuing to improve has been good to watch; it's not just one part game.

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                              • Dan54D Dan54

                                I think we all should just cool things a bit , Zarn has had a good game as replacement, and he's in the ABs?? And I do think he alright, but f*** me we need to see a season before we get carried away. I have thought he's had a few good games over the years, but still want to see him string a few togather. We not Australia whare a player has a 5 minute burst and then is the saviour of the country!!:astonished_face:

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                                @Dan54 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                Zarn has had a good game as replacement

                                I've been consistent. I've wanted him in the ABs as a 15 for a couple of years

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @nostrildamus said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                  Not just the ceiling but the positional competition?
                                  SS a 15 and wing, ZS a 15 and backup 10?

                                  That's the thing, as you say Stevenson and Sullivan don't cover the same positions. Zarn would be more in competition with BB and DMac in a squad.

                                  Players like him will get their opportunity in the AB XV games, but he also needs to show this form in the NZ derbies (if MacDonald selects him).

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                                  @Bovidae the thing is I'd much rather have Zarn at 15 than BB. And maybe even 10!

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                                    It's quite ironic that a couple years ago on the Breakdown, all the Super coaches were asked to pick a name of a player to look out for in preparation for the season ahead. The player Leon identified funnily enough was Zarn Sullivan so I really don't know why he hasn't had more game time up until now, because he is quality.

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                                      It's quite ironic that a couple years ago on the Breakdown, all the Super coaches were asked to pick a name of a player to look out for in preparation for the season ahead. The player Leon identified funnily enough was Zarn Sullivan so I really don't know why he hasn't had more game time up until now, because he is quality.

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                                      @Canes4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                      The player Leon identified funnily enough was Zarn Sullivan so I really don't know why he hasn't had more game time up until now, because he is quality.

                                      He mentioned in the after match interview that he'd been told the accuracy of his kicking from hand had dropped. So he's been working on that. Sounded like he got a small kick up the arse at the start of the season

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        @Canes4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                        The player Leon identified funnily enough was Zarn Sullivan so I really don't know why he hasn't had more game time up until now, because he is quality.

                                        He mentioned in the after match interview that he'd been told the accuracy of his kicking from hand had dropped. So he's been working on that. Sounded like he got a small kick up the arse at the start of the season

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                                        @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                        @Canes4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                        The player Leon identified funnily enough was Zarn Sullivan so I really don't know why he hasn't had more game time up until now, because he is quality.

                                        He mentioned in the after match interview that he'd been told the accuracy of his kicking from hand had dropped. So he's been working on that. Sounded like he got a small kick up the arse at the start of the season

                                        Lol lol lol the irony, if Zarn's kicking was considered inaccurate and that was the reason for his non-selection, would it be fair to suggest that Beauden should also not have been involved in the matchday 23?

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                          @Canes4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                          The player Leon identified funnily enough was Zarn Sullivan so I really don't know why he hasn't had more game time up until now, because he is quality.

                                          He mentioned in the after match interview that he'd been told the accuracy of his kicking from hand had dropped. So he's been working on that. Sounded like he got a small kick up the arse at the start of the season

                                          Lol lol lol the irony, if Zarn's kicking was considered inaccurate and that was the reason for his non-selection, would it be fair to suggest that Beauden should also not have been involved in the matchday 23?

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                                          @Canes4life

                                          Depends what the situation was. If a young player is taking it easy and training and his standards drop it's not the same as an experienced player out of form. Who cares, it's all good now. They are both in form and they are both certainties in the top xv

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