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Chiefs v Reds

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  • boobooB Offline
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    Got to 62 mins.

    Ref calls not straight Chiefs after ignoring same by Reds all night

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    • mariner4lifeM Offline
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      2012 the Chiefs won super rugby

      2013 @Nepia switched allegiance to the Chiefs

      2013 fucking taranaki switch to the Chiefs

      Since 2013 what have we won? Nothing
      And we play in the shithole called NP and we lose to a terrible side in Qld

      Taranaki is where football teams (and Nepia) goes to die

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        2012 the Chiefs won super rugby

        2013 @Nepia switched allegiance to the Chiefs

        2013 fucking taranaki switch to the Chiefs

        Since 2013 what have we won? Nothing
        And we play in the shithole called NP and we lose to a terrible side in Qld

        Taranaki is where football teams (and Nepia) goes to die

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        @mariner4life said in Chiefs v Reds:

        2012 the Chiefs won super rugby

        2013 @Nepia switched allegiance to the Chiefs

        2013 fucking taranaki switch to the Chiefs

        Since 2013 what have we won? Nothing
        And we play in the shithole called NP and we lose to a terrible side in Qld

        Taranaki is where football teams (and Nepia) goes to die

        Why are you telling lies? I came with Rennie, Cruden and Retallick in 2012. I'm one of the big four of the Chiefs rise to the top.

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          This win strengthens my case for Brad Thorn having a role with a Kiwi franchise.

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          • boobooB Offline
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            #135

            Too much pretty.

            Not enough ugly.

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            • S SBW1

              This win strengthens my case for Brad Thorn having a role with a Kiwi franchise.

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              @SBW1 said in Chiefs v Reds:

              This win strengthens my case for Brad Thorn having a role with a Kiwi franchise.

              They certainly defended with his style of play. Not convinced of his actual coaching ability.

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              • KirwanK Kirwan

                @SBW1 said in Chiefs v Reds:

                This win strengthens my case for Brad Thorn having a role with a Kiwi franchise.

                They certainly defended with his style of play. Not convinced of his actual coaching ability.

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                @Kirwan Not suggesting a head coaching role, an assistant role of something along like that. There will be a few vacancies in about three franchises.

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                • S SBW1

                  @Kirwan Not suggesting a head coaching role, an assistant role of something along like that. There will be a few vacancies in about three franchises.

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                  @SBW1 said in Chiefs v Reds:

                  @Kirwan Not suggesting a head coaching role, an assistant role of something along like that. There will be a few vacancies in about three franchises.

                  His time with the Reds is not impressive.

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                  • S Steven Harris

                    @Stargazer been a hell of an effort from the Reds,thought this would be a one sided romp given the injury toll they have

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                    @Steven-Harris said in Chiefs v Reds:

                    @Stargazer been a hell of an effort from the Reds,thought this would be a one sided romp given the injury toll they have

                    I think the Chiefs thought so too

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      @Mattasaurus said in Chiefs v Reds:

                      Pretty sure the reds lost that fwd way back,,,,

                      That looked awfully like a forward pass.

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                      @antipodean said in Chiefs v Reds:

                      @Mattasaurus said in Chiefs v Reds:

                      Pretty sure the reds lost that fwd way back,,,,

                      That looked awfully like a forward pass.

                      The Finau try one? Would have liked to have seen some replays from above for sure

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        ENS such an improver

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                        @KiwiMurph said in Chiefs v Reds:

                        ENS such an improver

                        One of my favourite players to watch this season. Pity he plays for the real Evil Empire…

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                          @antipodean said in Chiefs v Reds:

                          @Mattasaurus said in Chiefs v Reds:

                          Pretty sure the reds lost that fwd way back,,,,

                          That looked awfully like a forward pass.

                          The Finau try one? Would have liked to have seen some replays from above for sure

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                          @Nevorian said in Chiefs v Reds:

                          @antipodean said in Chiefs v Reds:

                          @Mattasaurus said in Chiefs v Reds:

                          Pretty sure the reds lost that fwd way back,,,,

                          That looked awfully like a forward pass.

                          The Finau try one? Would have liked to have seen some replays from above for sure

                          That pass by Josh looked very forward and I don’t even think Josh’s hands were in a backward motion.

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            Too much pretty.

                            Not enough ugly.

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                            nostrildamus
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                            @booboo said in Chiefs v Reds:

                            Too much pretty.

                            Not enough ugly.

                            I hope you aren't describing Bradley Carnegie Thorn (the post above yours).

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              2012 the Chiefs won super rugby

                              2013 @Nepia switched allegiance to the Chiefs

                              2013 fucking taranaki switch to the Chiefs

                              Since 2013 what have we won? Nothing
                              And we play in the shithole called NP and we lose to a terrible side in Qld

                              Taranaki is where football teams (and Nepia) goes to die

                              TimT Away
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                              Tim
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                              @mariner4life 😆

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @Winger said in Chiefs v Reds:

                                @Stargazer said in Chiefs v Reds:

                                Wow, what a game.

                                Thought I heard him say advantage over.

                                I didn't hear him say but think it went enough phases. I don't think Thompson should have taken the risk of getting held up.

                                Good win to the Reds.

                                Finau in attack and Nankivall when he came on aside that was a pretty dud performance across the board. @antipodean's mate DMac had his worst match of the season. Ratima is physical but he lacks the clearance and decision making of Weber.

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                                @Nepia said in Chiefs v Reds:

                                @Winger said in Chiefs v Reds:

                                @Stargazer said in Chiefs v Reds:

                                Wow, what a game.

                                Thought I heard him say advantage over.

                                I didn't hear him say but think it went enough phases. I don't think Thompson should have taken the risk of getting held up.

                                Good win to the Reds.

                                Finau in attack and Nankivall when he came on aside that was a pretty dud performance across the board. @antipodean's mate DMac had his worst match of the season. Ratima is physical but he lacks the clearance and decision making of Weber.

                                Ratima is good when he comes off the bench and has to fit the rhythm established by Weber. Left to set the rhythm he kills it instead. Too many other players then trying to make up for that split second with forced passes and poor decisions.
                                When will players learn that going for a close quarters try against a set close defence is very low percentage now? Dumb by Thompson and I feel he was trying to make amends for earlier errors.
                                As for the advantage. While I liked that as spectators we got to see ball in play rather than kick and drive, it also seemed that Williams painted himself into a corner by allowing too many side to side phases and felt he couldn’t go back to the offence. An offence than possibly took away a created opportunity. There was never any tactical or territorial advantage achieved from the play. The ball went sideways and backward and was always slow (which is the case when the offside line is the try line).
                                It would have been criticised if the penalty was called after 15 phases but it should also have never gone that far IMO. Tough one for the ref. Damned if you do….

                                Great ticker shown by the Reds and deserved win against a slightly off Chiefs. Shows what value BBBR, Sami T and Cane bring to the team. That’s a fair bit of leadership and hardness missing and if this is an indication of next year then there’s plenty of work to do and shoes to fill.

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @Nepia said in Chiefs v Reds:

                                  @Winger said in Chiefs v Reds:

                                  @Stargazer said in Chiefs v Reds:

                                  Wow, what a game.

                                  Thought I heard him say advantage over.

                                  I didn't hear him say but think it went enough phases. I don't think Thompson should have taken the risk of getting held up.

                                  Good win to the Reds.

                                  Finau in attack and Nankivall when he came on aside that was a pretty dud performance across the board. @antipodean's mate DMac had his worst match of the season. Ratima is physical but he lacks the clearance and decision making of Weber.

                                  Ratima is good when he comes off the bench and has to fit the rhythm established by Weber. Left to set the rhythm he kills it instead. Too many other players then trying to make up for that split second with forced passes and poor decisions.
                                  When will players learn that going for a close quarters try against a set close defence is very low percentage now? Dumb by Thompson and I feel he was trying to make amends for earlier errors.
                                  As for the advantage. While I liked that as spectators we got to see ball in play rather than kick and drive, it also seemed that Williams painted himself into a corner by allowing too many side to side phases and felt he couldn’t go back to the offence. An offence than possibly took away a created opportunity. There was never any tactical or territorial advantage achieved from the play. The ball went sideways and backward and was always slow (which is the case when the offside line is the try line).
                                  It would have been criticised if the penalty was called after 15 phases but it should also have never gone that far IMO. Tough one for the ref. Damned if you do….

                                  Great ticker shown by the Reds and deserved win against a slightly off Chiefs. Shows what value BBBR, Sami T and Cane bring to the team. That’s a fair bit of leadership and hardness missing and if this is an indication of next year then there’s plenty of work to do and shoes to fill.

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                                  Bovidae
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                                  @Crucial When I saw that Williams was the ref I expected some "interesting" calls. He's all over the place with his decisions, and like Berry, a former halfback.

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                                    @Crucial When I saw that Williams was the ref I expected some "interesting" calls. He's all over the place with his decisions, and like Berry, a former halfback.

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                                    @Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
                                    Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
                                    At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
                                    One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.

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                                      @Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
                                      Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
                                      At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
                                      One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.

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                                      @Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:

                                      @Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
                                      Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
                                      At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
                                      One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.

                                      Could he still have a muscle imbalance from a previous injury?

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                                        @Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
                                        Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
                                        At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
                                        One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.

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                                        @Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:

                                        @Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
                                        Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
                                        At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
                                        One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.

                                        He wasn't the only player to slip over - both Narawa and Finau lost their feet during crucial moments too when trying to change direction. I wonder if the turf was a bit loose?

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                                          @Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:

                                          @Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
                                          Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
                                          At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
                                          One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.

                                          He wasn't the only player to slip over - both Narawa and Finau lost their feet during crucial moments too when trying to change direction. I wonder if the turf was a bit loose?

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                                          @Mr-Fish a few of the reds too, fullback had a face plant if I remember correctly.

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