Chiefs v Reds
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@Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.Could he still have a muscle imbalance from a previous injury?
@nostrildamus said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.Could he still have a muscle imbalance from a previous injury?
Could we be mate, never thought of that.
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@Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.He wasn't the only player to slip over - both Narawa and Finau lost their feet during crucial moments too when trying to change direction. I wonder if the turf was a bit loose?
@Mr-Fish said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Bovidae Thought Williams made a bloody good job to be honest.
Anyway just got back from New Plymouth and going to game etc, and didn't think it was that bad at all. A bit of a messy game, but reminder why I love sport, there no guaranteed winners.
At Park I had feeling in first half Reds were just hanging on, and the Chiefs were a bit clumsy and not accurate with breakdown work or ball retention, and as second half went further you could see Reds starting to really believe, and just knocked everyone with a Chiefs jersey over, You could feel whole momentum change.
One thing I would add I think someone needs to have a word to DMac about studs or boots he wears, made a beautiful break, could see everything opening up in front, and then slipped over, that rugby 1-2-3 making sure you got right sprigs for ground, I have noticed him do it a few times this year.He wasn't the only player to slip over - both Narawa and Finau lost their feet during crucial moments too when trying to change direction. I wonder if the turf was a bit loose?
Well it artificial so not usual, could of been slippery, but think right boots saves a lot of it.
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@KiwiMurph happy to see an upset and hope to see more.
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The Yarrow Stadium field is way below the quality of FMG Stadium Waikato. I don't remember players slipping over in the Drua game and that was played in heavy rain.
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Reds:
The Yarrow Stadium field is way below the quality of FMG Stadium Waikato. I don't remember players slipping over in the Drua game and that was played in heavy rain.
Don't know why. It's got artificial mixed with grass, and haven't noticed the Naki boys slipping over when playing there. DMac actually has slipped a bit this year, and noticed other night he only got real short moulded studs on his boots.
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Reds:
The Yarrow Stadium field is way below the quality of FMG Stadium Waikato. I don't remember players slipping over in the Drua game and that was played in heavy rain.
Don't know why. It's got artificial mixed with grass, and haven't noticed the Naki boys slipping over when playing there. DMac actually has slipped a bit this year, and noticed other night he only got real short moulded studs on his boots.
@Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Reds:
The Yarrow Stadium field is way below the quality of FMG Stadium Waikato. I don't remember players slipping over in the Drua game and that was played in heavy rain.
Don't know why. It's got artificial mixed with grass, and haven't noticed the Naki boys slipping over when playing there. DMac actually has slipped a bit this year, and noticed other night he only got real short moulded studs on his boots.
There’s a lot of slipping going on in games at the moment. Grounds are getting skiddier as the season changes and players haven’t adjusted.
Donk almost seemed relieved after the loss. Probably because it is easier to get players to listen now. -
It’s a strange round when DMac has his worst game of the season but neither BB or RM look much better.
@Crucial It just gives me the
blind screaming heebie jeebies to think of any of those three running the cutter against France or Ireland in a tight match where the stakes are all or nothing. Let's hope they all find a rich vein of form by then. -
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Reds:
The Yarrow Stadium field is way below the quality of FMG Stadium Waikato. I don't remember players slipping over in the Drua game and that was played in heavy rain.
Don't know why. It's got artificial mixed with grass, and haven't noticed the Naki boys slipping over when playing there. DMac actually has slipped a bit this year, and noticed other night he only got real short moulded studs on his boots.
@Dan54 A different time of the year to NPC, and not all games are played at night. It is noticeable that there is a heavy dew on the ground now, and grass length/quality will also be a factor. As you say, most backs probably use boots with moulded studs whereas the forwards don't.
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@Dan54 A different time of the year to NPC, and not all games are played at night. It is noticeable that there is a heavy dew on the ground now, and grass length/quality will also be a factor. As you say, most backs probably use boots with moulded studs whereas the forwards don't.
@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Reds:
@Dan54 A different time of the year to NPC, and not all games are played at night. It is noticeable that there is a heavy dew on the ground now, and grass length/quality will also be a factor. As you say, most backs probably use boots with moulded studs whereas the forwards don't.
Of course it diiferent time of year etc, my point is that players should be changing boots to suit conditions. Not sure if too many do, especially in backs? Just a small thing I know but something I thought that would be looked at.
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Another thing came to mind while at the game on Friday, I think Chiefs missed Sam Cane, or a real specialised 7, McReight was pretty good as game wore on, and perhaps Chiefs were missing someone to counter him?
@Dan54 said in Chiefs v Reds:
Another thing came to mind while at the game on Friday, I think Chiefs missed Sam Cane, or a real specialised 7, McReight was pretty good as game wore on, and perhaps Chiefs were missing someone to counter him?
Agreed there. Lost it at the breakdown I felt with imprecision causing delayed clearance for Chiefs while Reds fared better than they should have. Good wake up call. MSR and Vaai went well I thought. Finau great. But the overall pack impact was weakest of the season in my view. Aidan Ross was missed too for his all round presence.
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@Bovidae said in Chiefs v Reds:
The Yarrow Stadium field is way below the quality of FMG Stadium Waikato. I don't remember players slipping over in the Drua game and that was played in heavy rain.
Don't know why. It's got artificial mixed with grass, and haven't noticed the Naki boys slipping over when playing there. DMac actually has slipped a bit this year, and noticed other night he only got real short moulded studs on his boots.
@Dan54 just on this above.
It is quite possible that there is a conscious decision to risk a slip because of other benefits eg maneuverability and kicking. Goal kicking especially can be very different in longer sprigs depending on you approach to the ball.
Did look to be a misread on what was needed from not only DMac but Narawa and Stevenson as well. Combination of boots, dew and mixed turf.
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@ploughboy said in Chiefs v Reds:
interesting moli only got time when ryan had hia
Yes. I can't say he looked that good in the club game I watched either (when ALB played 40 mins).
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@ploughboy said in Chiefs v Reds:
interesting moli only got time when ryan had hia
I thought that maybe because they needed to hold someone back on bench, there were getting to be a lot of injuries in their forwards.
