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Chiefs v Hurricanes

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    DMac fangirls need to acknowledge the screamingly obvious; his claims to All Black squad scall up isn't at five-eighth; it's at full black as reserve.

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      It may be obvious to you, but if we play Mo'unga at 1st-5 we will get the porous defense that goes with that, and very unsympathetic ball play for the centres. And if we play Beauden Barrett, it won't even be that good.

      If DMac isn't at #10 for the ABs, the RWC will be the most relaxing I have watched, because without his spark in close to play, we are not beating any good sides.

      I noticed at the game just how much further the Chiefs' kicks went, and also that DMac was defending in the midfield on line-outs.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        DMac fangirls need to acknowledge the screamingly obvious; his claims to All Black squad scall up isn't at five-eighth; it's at full black as reserve.

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        @antipodean said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

        DMac fangirls need to acknowledge the screamingly obvious; his claims to All Black squad scall up isn't at five-eighth; it's at full black as reserve.

        fangirls? Your opinion would be more convincing without the insults or the invented "full black" position. I wasn't a DMac fam at AB level as a starter let alone 10, but he has definitely improved. And the contenders aren't in the most convincing of form or confidence.

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          @antipodean said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

          DMac fangirls need to acknowledge the screamingly obvious; his claims to All Black squad scall up isn't at five-eighth; it's at full black as reserve.

          fangirls? Your opinion would be more convincing without the insults or the invented "full black" position. I wasn't a DMac fam at AB level as a starter let alone 10, but he has definitely improved. And the contenders aren't in the most convincing of form or confidence.

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          @nostrildamus said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

          @antipodean said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

          DMac fangirls need to acknowledge the screamingly obvious; his claims to All Black squad scall up isn't at five-eighth; it's at full black as reserve.

          fangirls? Your opinion would be more convincing without the insults or the invented "full black" position. I wasn't a DMac fam at AB level as a starter let alone 10, but he has definitely improved. And the contenders aren't in the most convincing of form or confidence.

          Maybe he was referring to all the Polish chicks on here....

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            DMac fangirls need to acknowledge the screamingly obvious; his claims to All Black squad scall up isn't at five-eighth; it's at full black as reserve.

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            @antipodean Who would you pick at 10 for the ABs?

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              Have always thought that he was the form 10 at the end of last season playing in the development team under Leon. I wonder if some of the rule changes may have helped him in that position, just a guess. We defiantly need more than one 10 going forwards, as there will be different scenarios which suit different 10s. I am just hoping we get another DC clone.

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                WC rules are a lot different to what we are playing now.The Rugby Championship will show us a lot more as far as First Five's for the WC.
                We revert back to a slower paced more set piece orientated game for the WC.

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                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                  @antipodean said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                  DMac fangirls need to acknowledge the screamingly obvious; his claims to All Black squad scall up isn't at five-eighth; it's at full black as reserve.

                  fangirls? Your opinion would be more convincing without the insults or the invented "full black" position. I wasn't a DMac fam at AB level as a starter let alone 10, but he has definitely improved. And the contenders aren't in the most convincing of form or confidence.

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                  @nostrildamus said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                  @antipodean said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                  DMac fangirls need to acknowledge the screamingly obvious; his claims to All Black squad scall up isn't at five-eighth; it's at full black as reserve.

                  fangirls? Your opinion would be more convincing without the insults or the invented "full black" position.

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                  I wasn't a DMac fam at AB level as a starter let alone 10, but he has definitely improved. And the contenders aren't in the most convincing of form or confidence.

                  Who is denying he hasn't improved, or that Mo'unga and Beaudy aren't exactly at the top of their form? The simple fact remains if it was a three horse race, he's coming last.

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                    @antipodean Who would you pick at 10 for the ABs?

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                    @Frank said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                    @antipodean Who would you pick at 10 for the ABs?

                    On form it has to remain Mo'unga, but Beauden's form this weekend hints at competition now he's taking the ball to the line again. May that continue.

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                      Have always thought that he was the form 10 at the end of last season playing in the development team under Leon. I wonder if some of the rule changes may have helped him in that position, just a guess. We defiantly need more than one 10 going forwards, as there will be different scenarios which suit different 10s. I am just hoping we get another DC clone.

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                      @SBW1 said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                      I am just hoping we get another DC clone.

                      We have one, but he is playing at 15.

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                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                        @SBW1 said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                        I am just hoping we get another DC clone.

                        We have one, but he is playing at 15.

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                        @Crazy-Horse

                        A clone?

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @nostrildamus said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                          @antipodean said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                          DMac fangirls need to acknowledge the screamingly obvious; his claims to All Black squad scall up isn't at five-eighth; it's at full black as reserve.

                          fangirls? Your opinion would be more convincing without the insults or the invented "full black" position.

                          alt text

                          I wasn't a DMac fam at AB level as a starter let alone 10, but he has definitely improved. And the contenders aren't in the most convincing of form or confidence.

                          Who is denying he hasn't improved, or that Mo'unga and Beaudy aren't exactly at the top of their form? The simple fact remains if it was a three horse race, he's coming last.

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                          @antipodean said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                          Who is denying he hasn't improved, or that Mo'unga and Beaudy aren't exactly at the top of their form? The simple fact remains if it was a three horse race, he's coming last.

                          you care enough for insults.
                          As to "simple fact"? I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
                          https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/04/rugby-ian-foster-delighted-with-three-way-shootout-for-all-blacks-no-10-jersey.html
                          "Now, we're seeing the emergence of Stephen Perofeta coming through, and Damian's come back, and took a little while to find his feet at the end of last year, but has been really impressive in Super Rugby"..."His challenge at 10 has been his depth management, being able to know when to play flat and when to play deep," Foster said of McKenzie. "He instinctively likes to take the ball to the line"... "There's a few things he's got to keep working on, but he's a big mover. We're excited for him."

                          Maybe you didn't get the memo?
                          And anyway it is Ian Foster, not convinced your simple facts will predict what he will do.

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                            @Crazy-Horse

                            A clone?

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                            @Duluth said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                            @Crazy-Horse

                            A clone?

                            Tongue in cheek.

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                              I've never been a Dmac fan. Far too Helter skelter. But his play since his return from Japan, in particular this year, has won me over. He is a serious consideration for 10, I would like to see how he goes in a test match against decent opposition

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                This reserve hooker is a munter.

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                                @Canes4life said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                                This reserve hooker is a munter.

                                Agree on Faiva. His lineout throwing is poor and in general he's only adequate We lost over half our lineout throws (at least it seemed like it) when he came on. We need Devery Coles or Aumua back otherwise team has another big handicap. All down to all these injuries. They never stop

                                Morgan showed how limited he is. Moreby after playing well last week was limited again. Except for his great try. Maybe he should play on the wing when (or if) love returns

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  @antipodean said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                                  Who is denying he hasn't improved, or that Mo'unga and Beaudy aren't exactly at the top of their form? The simple fact remains if it was a three horse race, he's coming last.

                                  you care enough for insults.
                                  As to "simple fact"? I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
                                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/04/rugby-ian-foster-delighted-with-three-way-shootout-for-all-blacks-no-10-jersey.html
                                  "Now, we're seeing the emergence of Stephen Perofeta coming through, and Damian's come back, and took a little while to find his feet at the end of last year, but has been really impressive in Super Rugby"..."His challenge at 10 has been his depth management, being able to know when to play flat and when to play deep," Foster said of McKenzie. "He instinctively likes to take the ball to the line"... "There's a few things he's got to keep working on, but he's a big mover. We're excited for him."

                                  Maybe you didn't get the memo?
                                  And anyway it is Ian Foster, not convinced your simple facts will predict what he will do.

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                                  @nostrildamus said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                                  @antipodean said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                                  Who is denying he hasn't improved, or that Mo'unga and Beaudy aren't exactly at the top of their form? The simple fact remains if it was a three horse race, he's coming last.

                                  you care enough for insults.

                                  Harden up.

                                  As to "simple fact"? I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
                                  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/04/rugby-ian-foster-delighted-with-three-way-shootout-for-all-blacks-no-10-jersey.html
                                  "Now, we're seeing the emergence of Stephen Perofeta coming through, and Damian's come back, and took a little while to find his feet at the end of last year, but has been really impressive in Super Rugby"..."His challenge at 10 has been his depth management, being able to know when to play flat and when to play deep," Foster said of McKenzie. "He instinctively likes to take the ball to the line"... "There's a few things he's got to keep working on, but he's a big mover. We're excited for him."

                                  Maybe you didn't get the memo?

                                  The same Ian Foster that preferred George Bridge? That one?

                                  And anyway it is Ian Foster, not convinced your simple facts will predict what he will do.

                                  Really? You worked out that the All Black coach decides who is in the squad and not me?

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                                    DMac has done enough to be given a shot at 10 in a black jersey prior to the World Cup. Up to him what he does with it.

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      @Frank said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                                      @antipodean Who would you pick at 10 for the ABs?

                                      On form it has to remain Mo'unga, but Beauden's form this weekend hints at competition now he's taking the ball to the line again. May that continue.

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                                      @antipodean said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                                      @Frank said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                                      @antipodean Who would you pick at 10 for the ABs?

                                      ... Beauden's form this weekend hints at competition now he's taking the ball to the line again. May that continue.

                                      It'll have to continue against sides that actually put pressure on him.

                                      He's always looked a million bucks when given time and space.

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                                      • WingerW Winger

                                        @Canes4life said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                                        This reserve hooker is a munter.

                                        Agree on Faiva. His lineout throwing is poor and in general he's only adequate We lost over half our lineout throws (at least it seemed like it) when he came on. We need Devery Coles or Aumua back otherwise team has another big handicap. All down to all these injuries. They never stop

                                        Morgan showed how limited he is. Moreby after playing well last week was limited again. Except for his great try. Maybe he should play on the wing when (or if) love returns

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                                        @Winger Moorby doesn’t have much of a kicking game so is more suited to the wing. Love will definitely be fullback when he eventually returns.

                                        I hope we get some players back soon otherwise our season is over.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @Winger Moorby doesn’t have much of a kicking game so is more suited to the wing. Love will definitely be fullback when he eventually returns.

                                          I hope we get some players back soon otherwise our season is over.

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                                          @Canes4life said in Chiefs v Hurricanes:

                                          @Winger Moorby doesn’t have much of a kicking game so is more suited to the wing. Love will definitely be fullback when he eventually returns.

                                          I hope we get some players back soon otherwise our season is over.

                                          Moorby kicked very well in one game. Maybe vs Brumbies. But otherwise his kicking has been absent. Or he's been only so-so. He prefers running to kicking mostly though even when kicking is clearly the better option. Except for the Brumbies? match. So he can do it but rarely does. Shame as who knows when love is returning

                                          Agree on players returning. Esp hookers. Otherwise we will easily lose our next 3 games. A poor line-out (as we have been in 2 matches) = poor results against the top sides

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