QF: Blues v Tahs
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Think the scrum was about to go down.
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@Kirwan I think picking it up was fine, but he should have passed it
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@hydro11 said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
No PT for me. I think you have to be sure it is foul play to award it.
including SBW batting a ball out of play when he could have caught it? THe standard is the standard - for me, that should have had a closer look, it was a sneaky 'oh look I kicked the ball' for me, kinda like 'oops I wound up on the wrong side of the ruck'.
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@nzzp said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
@Damo said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
PT for me.
same
Clearly accidental. He's never looing at the ball.
@antipodean said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
@nzzp said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
@Damo said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
PT for me.
same
Clearly accidental. He's never looing at the ball.
I don't think it's clearly anything. It's marginal either way.
I am reminded of what an old law professor said to me about the word "clearly".
He said that one should never use the word "clearly" in submissions because if it the point is clear the judge will know it without you saying so - and if it is not clear your saying it is clear will not make it so.
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Lam offers more than Clarke for me.
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@antipodean said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
@nzzp said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
@Damo said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
PT for me.
same
Clearly accidental. He's never looing at the ball.
I don't think it's clearly anything. It's marginal either way.
I am reminded of what an old law professor said to me about the word "clearly".
He said that one should never use the word "clearly" in submissions because if it the point is clear the judge will know it without you saying so - and if it is not clear your saying it is clear will not make it so.
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@antipodean said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
@nzzp said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
@Damo said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
PT for me.
same
Clearly accidental. He's never looing at the ball.
I don't think it's clearly anything. It's marginal either way.
I am reminded of what an old law professor said to me about the word "clearly".
He said that one should never use the word "clearly" in submissions because if it the point is clear the judge will know it without you saying so - and if it is not clear your saying it is clear will not make it so.
@Damo said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
@antipodean said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
@nzzp said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
@Damo said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
PT for me.
same
Clearly accidental. He's never looing at the ball.
I don't think it's clearly anything. It's marginal either way.
I am reminded of what an old law professor said to me about the word "clearly".
He said that one should never use the word "clearly" in submissions because if it the point is clear the judge will know it without you saying so - and if it is not clear your saying it is clear will not make it so.
Well there isn't a judge here and it's a contentious point apparently. So I rely on the evidence that the player that inadvertently kicked the ball was at no point looking down at it. So he either had radar, or it was accidental.
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@hydro11 said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
No PT for me. I think you have to be sure it is foul play to award it.
including SBW batting a ball out of play when he could have caught it? THe standard is the standard - for me, that should have had a closer look, it was a sneaky 'oh look I kicked the ball' for me, kinda like 'oops I wound up on the wrong side of the ruck'.
@nzzp said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
@hydro11 said in QF: Blues v Tahs:
No PT for me. I think you have to be sure it is foul play to award it.
including SBW batting a ball out of play when he could have caught it? THe standard is the standard - for me, that should have had a closer look, it was a sneaky 'oh look I kicked the ball' for me, kinda like 'oops I wound up on the wrong side of the ruck'.
I don't really remember that one. The standard is that standard and the standard is that it has to be deliberate. If a player is sneaky enough to make it look accidental, then they probably deserve to get away with it. Being on the wrong side of the ruck is false equivalence. That is a penalty regardless of intent.
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Blues player of the match voting:
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/6032/blues-motm-v-tahs-qf -
Great support play from Telea. That's what I like about him - not just scoring tries but does the basics so well.
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Tahs should bulk up in the off-season to better combat the physicality of the NZ teams.
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Heard TJ say that no team has ever come to NZ and won a playoff game. Is that record right from the beginning of Super Rugby? Impressive if so.
