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QF: Blues v Tahs

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/the-ten-crucial-minutes-nsw-must-nail-to-avoid-recurring-eden-park-nightmare-20230608-p5df6t.html

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    • DuluthD Offline
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      Here's the highlights of that match in 2009 that the Tahs won at Eden Park (27-22)

      Halangahu was prominent

      Screenshot 2023-06-09 at 11.43.15 AM.png

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        even with the complete spud at 12, that's a bloody good Tahs team.

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        • NTAN Offline
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          That Blues try at 3:15 was a laugh.

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/the-ten-crucial-minutes-nsw-must-nail-to-avoid-recurring-eden-park-nightmare-20230608-p5df6t.html

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            @Duluth said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

            https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/the-ten-crucial-minutes-nsw-must-nail-to-avoid-recurring-eden-park-nightmare-20230608-p5df6t.html

            I hate that crucial 10 minutes rubbish - sure it's nice to score or hold going into HT, but it ain't more important than minutes 53-62 or 67-76. And if conceding just before HT is the losing of the game for you, then you're mentally weak and/or poorly led/coached.

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            • voodooV voodoo

              @Duluth said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

              https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/the-ten-crucial-minutes-nsw-must-nail-to-avoid-recurring-eden-park-nightmare-20230608-p5df6t.html

              I hate that crucial 10 minutes rubbish - sure it's nice to score or hold going into HT, but it ain't more important than minutes 53-62 or 67-76. And if conceding just before HT is the losing of the game for you, then you're mentally weak and/or poorly led/coached.

              DuluthD Offline
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              @voodoo said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

              I hate that crucial 10 minutes rubbish - sure it's nice to score or hold going into HT, but it ain't more important than minutes 53-62 or 67-76. And if conceding just before HT is the losing of the game for you, then you're mentally weak and/or poorly led/coached.

              Yeah there's better cliches. 'Play for 80mins', 'Don't switch off' etc

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/the-ten-crucial-minutes-nsw-must-nail-to-avoid-recurring-eden-park-nightmare-20230608-p5df6t.html

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                @Duluth said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/the-ten-crucial-minutes-nsw-must-nail-to-avoid-recurring-eden-park-nightmare-20230608-p5df6t.html

                I had a chuckle at Blues Tahs this year being a blowout doesn't matter because Tahs were weakened yet Blues-Tahs result last year being close is a reason for hope (with no mention that Blues were weakened).

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @Duluth said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                  https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/the-ten-crucial-minutes-nsw-must-nail-to-avoid-recurring-eden-park-nightmare-20230608-p5df6t.html

                  I had a chuckle at Blues Tahs this year being a blowout doesn't matter because Tahs were weakened yet Blues-Tahs result last year being close is a reason for hope (with no mention that Blues were weakened).

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                  @KiwiMurph Haha that was like a 'C' team we sent over. Jock McKenzie somehow managed to start a game at 10 that day.

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                  • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                    @KiwiMurph Haha that was like a 'C' team we sent over. Jock McKenzie somehow managed to start a game at 10 that day.

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                    @African-Monkey said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                    @KiwiMurph Haha that was like a 'C' team we sent over. Jock McKenzie somehow managed to start a game at 10 that day.

                    Here's that 23

                    Jordan Lay, Ricky Riccitelli, Nepo Laulala, Luke Romano, Josh Goodhue, Anton Segner, Adrian Choat, Taine Plumtree, Sam Nock, Jock McKenzie, AJ Lam, Corey Evans, Tamati Tua, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens, Zarn Sullivan

                    Soane Vikena, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Marcel Renata, Sam Darry, Cameron Suafoa, Akira Ioane, Taufa Funaki, Nigel Ah-Wong

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                    • NTAN NTA

                      @MiketheSnow said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                      Going to go against the grain and call a very narrow Tahs win, especially if the weather is rubbish

                      See your neurologist.

                      Tahs at $7 is ridiculous, but the bookies know they won't have to pay it.

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                      @NTA said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                      @MiketheSnow said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                      Going to go against the grain and call a very narrow Tahs win, especially if the weather is rubbish

                      See your neurologist.

                      Tahs at $7 is ridiculous, but the bookies know they won't have to pay it.

                      Tahs should start favourites, they not only have the greatest Aussie openside (better than Georgie) but the best openside the world has seen in the last 40 years.

                      She’ll be right cobber

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        @African-Monkey said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                        @KiwiMurph Haha that was like a 'C' team we sent over. Jock McKenzie somehow managed to start a game at 10 that day.

                        Here's that 23

                        Jordan Lay, Ricky Riccitelli, Nepo Laulala, Luke Romano, Josh Goodhue, Anton Segner, Adrian Choat, Taine Plumtree, Sam Nock, Jock McKenzie, AJ Lam, Corey Evans, Tamati Tua, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens, Zarn Sullivan

                        Soane Vikena, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Marcel Renata, Sam Darry, Cameron Suafoa, Akira Ioane, Taufa Funaki, Nigel Ah-Wong

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                        @Duluth said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                        @African-Monkey said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                        @KiwiMurph Haha that was like a 'C' team we sent over. Jock McKenzie somehow managed to start a game at 10 that day.

                        Here's that 23

                        Jordan Lay, Ricky Riccitelli, Nepo Laulala, Luke Romano, Josh Goodhue, Anton Segner, Adrian Choat, Taine Plumtree, Sam Nock, Jock McKenzie, AJ Lam, Corey Evans, Tamati Tua, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens, Zarn Sullivan

                        Soane Vikena, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Marcel Renata, Sam Darry, Cameron Suafoa, Akira Ioane, Taufa Funaki, Nigel Ah-Wong

                        Is this where someone says “Akira can’t even make the starting lineup in a C team”

                        😎

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          @NTA said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                          @MiketheSnow said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                          Going to go against the grain and call a very narrow Tahs win, especially if the weather is rubbish

                          See your neurologist.

                          Tahs at $7 is ridiculous, but the bookies know they won't have to pay it.

                          Tahs should start favourites, they not only have the greatest Aussie openside (better than Georgie) but the best openside the world has seen in the last 40 years.

                          She’ll be right cobber

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                          @ACT-Crusader said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                          y not only have the greatest Aussie openside (better than Georgie) but the best openside the world has seen in the last 40 years.

                          according to the Walrus 😛

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                          • voodooV voodoo

                            @Duluth said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                            https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/the-ten-crucial-minutes-nsw-must-nail-to-avoid-recurring-eden-park-nightmare-20230608-p5df6t.html

                            I hate that crucial 10 minutes rubbish - sure it's nice to score or hold going into HT, but it ain't more important than minutes 53-62 or 67-76. And if conceding just before HT is the losing of the game for you, then you're mentally weak and/or poorly led/coached.

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                            @voodoo said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                            @Duluth said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                            https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/the-ten-crucial-minutes-nsw-must-nail-to-avoid-recurring-eden-park-nightmare-20230608-p5df6t.html

                            I hate that crucial 10 minutes rubbish - sure it's nice to score or hold going into HT, but it ain't more important than minutes 53-62 or 67-76. And if conceding just before HT is the losing of the game for you, then you're mentally weak and/or poorly led/coached.

                            Nothing to back this up, but it always seems like minutes 35-45 are important, in line with the team that scores before and after halftime going on to win.

                            The canes proved it as scientific fact just last week.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @voodoo said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                              @Duluth said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                              https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/the-ten-crucial-minutes-nsw-must-nail-to-avoid-recurring-eden-park-nightmare-20230608-p5df6t.html

                              I hate that crucial 10 minutes rubbish - sure it's nice to score or hold going into HT, but it ain't more important than minutes 53-62 or 67-76. And if conceding just before HT is the losing of the game for you, then you're mentally weak and/or poorly led/coached.

                              Nothing to back this up, but it always seems like minutes 35-45 are important, in line with the team that scores before and after halftime going on to win.

                              The canes proved it as scientific fact just last week.

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                              @Bones perhaps an indicator of superior fitness at the end of a half, and better concentration at the beginning?

                              All very subjective, and am sure there will be jsut as many examples of a team thrashing a team in the first half, and then dropping intensity (adding subs) in the second and ruin any patterns.

                              Also some teams pull away in the last ten.

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                @Bones perhaps an indicator of superior fitness at the end of a half, and better concentration at the beginning?

                                All very subjective, and am sure there will be jsut as many examples of a team thrashing a team in the first half, and then dropping intensity (adding subs) in the second and ruin any patterns.

                                Also some teams pull away in the last ten.

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                                @Kirwan the science firm Proctor Roigard proved it I'm afraid.

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                                  I'm a believer in the importance of points just before/just after the break.

                                  To me points during that time add to energy, momentum and scoreboard pressure.

                                  If you feel like you've dominated a half but concede around half-time that's a big bounce for the other time.

                                  Conversely if you feel like you are in the game but then concede it can be a backbreaking.

                                  In both instances the score may not reflect the game up until that point.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @NTA said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                                    @MiketheSnow said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                                    Going to go against the grain and call a very narrow Tahs win, especially if the weather is rubbish

                                    See your neurologist.

                                    Tahs at $7 is ridiculous, but the bookies know they won't have to pay it.

                                    Tahs should start favourites, they not only have the greatest Aussie openside (better than Georgie) but the best openside the world has seen in the last 40 years.

                                    She’ll be right cobber

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                                    @NTA said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                                    @MiketheSnow said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                                    Going to go against the grain and call a very narrow Tahs win, especially if the weather is rubbish

                                    See your neurologist.

                                    Tahs at $7 is ridiculous, but the bookies know they won't have to pay it.

                                    Tahs should start favourites, they not only have the greatest Aussie openside (better than Georgie) but the best openside the world has seen in the last 40 years.

                                    She’ll be right cobber

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      I'm a believer in the importance of points just before/just after the break.

                                      To me points during that time add to energy, momentum and scoreboard pressure.

                                      If you feel like you've dominated a half but concede around half-time that's a big bounce for the other time.

                                      Conversely if you feel like you are in the game but then concede it can be a backbreaking.

                                      In both instances the score may not reflect the game up until that point.

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in QF: Blues v Tahs:

                                      I'm a believer in the importance of points just before/just after the break.

                                      To me points during that time add to energy, momentum and scoreboard pressure.

                                      If you feel like you've dominated a half but concede around half-time that's a big bounce for the other time.

                                      Conversely if you feel like you are in the game but then concede it can be a backbreaking.

                                      In both instances the score may not reflect the game up until that point.

                                      But is it worse than conceding in the first 5 minutes? That's a heart-breaker too.

                                      As said above, if having the opponent score at a particular time is the losing of the game, then the team has mental issues.

                                      My personal observation is that the worst time to be scored against is when you have just scored yourself. All that effort, then immediately nullified!

                                      =================

                                      It's not just rugby has these "magical" times. Golf has "moving day".

                                      I once did a statistical breakdown of a gold tournament, just to look. The players that did best on day 3 didn't do best overall. It just seemed like it, because the much thinner fields by then made a couple of birdies more noticeable.

                                      Every golf shot is worth exactly the same (except match play, of course). There is no magical day that is most important.

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                                        Late changes to the Waratahs line-up:

                                        They have made several late changes, with Tane Edmed starting at flyhalf. It pushes Ben Donaldson to fullback and Mark Nawaqanitawase to the winger whilst Izaia Perese partners Joey Walton in the centres as Lalakai Foketi moves to the bench.

                                        In the forwards, Nephi Leatigaga starts at tight-head prop, with Tolu Latu, Dan Botha and Hugh Sinclair coming onto the bench.

                                        https://www.rugby.com.au/news/how-to-watch-blues-nsw-waratahs-live-scores-blog-match-report-updates-australia-super-rugby-pacific-202369


                                        A bit dodgy this. No way all these changes are injury enforced.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          Late changes to the Waratahs line-up:

                                          They have made several late changes, with Tane Edmed starting at flyhalf. It pushes Ben Donaldson to fullback and Mark Nawaqanitawase to the winger whilst Izaia Perese partners Joey Walton in the centres as Lalakai Foketi moves to the bench.

                                          In the forwards, Nephi Leatigaga starts at tight-head prop, with Tolu Latu, Dan Botha and Hugh Sinclair coming onto the bench.

                                          https://www.rugby.com.au/news/how-to-watch-blues-nsw-waratahs-live-scores-blog-match-report-updates-australia-super-rugby-pacific-202369


                                          A bit dodgy this. No way all these changes are injury enforced.

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                                          @Stargazer I thought that might happen after Coleman's audition chat last week

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