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RWC Warm Up : Wales v England 05Aug23

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  • ARHSA ARHS

    I hope the dire anything goes refereeing in this match is not seen in RWC. Zero policing of offsides obstruction and highshots. Players were taking the mickey in getting ahead of the kicker...

    Can't see point in England playing a third xv in this match. The Welsh loosies were so dominant the English barely put up a fight. Will be hard for Borthwick to select his squad now.

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    @ARHS said in RWC Warm Up : Wales v England 05Aug23:

    Can't see point in England playing a third xv in this match. The Welsh loosies were so dominant the English barely put up a fight. Will be hard for Borthwick to select his squad now.

    Yeah it was pretty odd to play a warm up match with a bunch of guys who might play the minnows but a number who won't even do that.

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      I see a lot of English "supporters" bemoaning the change in coaches and this performance, but I feel that England played with some expanse and enterprise, they just lacked accuracy, especially in the 22. Score could easily have been much closer.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        I see a lot of English "supporters" bemoaning the change in coaches and this performance, but I feel that England played with some expanse and enterprise, they just lacked accuracy, especially in the 22. Score could easily have been much closer.

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        @antipodean

        Yes handling errors in the first half when we had some ball and a bit of ascendancy cost us, but come the end we looked bereft of of a plan or even any ideas. Wales deserved winners.

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        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

          Started enjoying my adult beverages at about the 45 min mark

          Comfortable in the end
          England bereft

          Dombrandt has gone backwards at a rate of knots

          Smith likewise

          We were fit, well coached, well disciplined (see fitness and coaching)

          Rather be us than England

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          @MiketheSnow next week will be interesting in the return fixture just to see how both coaches approach the game.
          Wales need to keep Jac Morgan & Wainwright out of the firing line now - both superb yesterday.

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            To hold any international team to no tries in this day & age is a bloody good effort

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            • pooler fanP pooler fan

              @MiketheSnow next week will be interesting in the return fixture just to see how both coaches approach the game.
              Wales need to keep Jac Morgan & Wainwright out of the firing line now - both superb yesterday.

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              @pooler-fan said in RWC Warm Up : Wales v England 05Aug23:

              @MiketheSnow next week will be interesting in the return fixture just to see how both coaches approach the game.
              Wales need to keep Jac Morgan & Wainwright out of the firing line now - both superb yesterday.

              Pick the others next week, then RWC starting 23 against SA on 19th

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                Oh and if Darcy’s try was a try, then LRZ’s should have been too
                Consistency ffs

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                @MiketheSnow said in RWC Warm Up : Wales v England 05Aug23:

                Oh and if Darcy’s try was a try, then LRZ’s should have been too
                Consistency ffs

                The reviewing of that was farcical. TMO saying “no separation” and “try”. Berry, watching the same replay can see clear separation and asks her to review it. “Yes. Clear separation “. She was useless.

                Right decision in the end but only because Berry had the balls to call out the TMO.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @Catogrande said in RWC Warm Up : Wales v England 05Aug23:

                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC Warm Up : Wales v England 05Aug23:

                  England 'B' Team looks stronger than Wales

                  With 6 recent first stringers, it ought to. But looks a bit imbalanced to me.

                  I don’t t see what Borthwick is trying to achieve or discover with that selection. I am … underwhelmed.

                  Yeah bit clueless as to what the 6N are trying to achieve with these games. Only thought is to keep the second XV "fresh"?

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                  @Bones

                  Multiply 75,000 by 30 quid and you'll have your answer

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                  • G GibbonRib

                    @Bones

                    Multiply 75,000 by 30 quid and you'll have your answer

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                    @GibbonRib said in RWC Warm Up : Wales v England 05Aug23:

                    @Bones

                    Multiply 75,000 by 30 quid and you'll have your answer

                    And the money spent in the city

                    Great atmosphere around town

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      To hold any international team to no tries in this day & age is a bloody good effort

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                      @MiketheSnow How many games has Marcus Smith played in his career when his lot never crossed over?

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                      • game_filmG game_film

                        @MiketheSnow How many games has Marcus Smith played in his career when his lot never crossed over?

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                        @game_film said in RWC Warm Up : Wales v England 05Aug23:

                        @MiketheSnow How many games has Marcus Smith played in his career when his lot never crossed over?

                        Not many I'm guessing

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                          @Bones

                          Multiply 75,000 by 30 quid and you'll have your answer

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                          @GibbonRib said in RWC Warm Up : Wales v England 05Aug23:

                          @Bones

                          Multiply 75,000 by 30 quid and you'll have your answer

                          A couple of million well spent just to see Smith cry.

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                            I have pondered much on the game. Plans, patterns, selection etc and also the wider squad and further back to the 6N and Leicester's winning season and my pessimistic conclusion is this:

                            England will fall back on "experience", and percentages in re the side who kicks more, wins more. We will pick guys who have been great servants to England in the past but are long past their sell by date. We will kick poorly and chase even worse. We will get out of our group and most likely be bundled out at the QF but dependent upon who we get, could make the SF. We will play dull rugby, we will be indisciplined and we will make no friends.

                            No. I am not drunk.

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                              I don’t think you’re far wrong

                              But if England do make a SF then that’s a big achievement for Borthwick

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                I don’t think you’re far wrong

                                But if England do make a SF then that’s a big achievement for Borthwick

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                                @MiketheSnow

                                Looking at it short term, I sort of agree with you, in that if we made the SF it would be above immediate expectations. However, in truth, with our resources, a SF place should be a minimum. We have so much going for us, numbers, funding, support, but we seem to have this handbrake applied about 80% of the time and an acceptance that this is ok and “the done thing” 90% of the time. It ceased to be amusing some years ago.

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