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RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay

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  • NTAN Offline
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    #109

    France had no cohesion on attack due to the changes. They also refused to play systems after the first 15 minutes or so, and got dumb at scrum time later in the game. That will be their worst performance at this RWC.

    Sure, Uruguay were playing funny buggers at the scrum once their LHP figured out he needed to lower his arse a bit. I thought he was a bit hard done by when the French THP clearly overextended, but they figured it was easy enough to draw a few penalties because BOK is so random. I'd have faded a little on the hit as well 😉

    Someone mentioned 7s influence and yeah you could see that with Uruguay and Chile - a few very good jackals. Play to your strengths.

    Ultimately Los Teros fluffed too many lineouts to get up, and probably let a prime opportunity slip there.

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    • boobooB booboo

      Only caught the last 10 this morning.

      Worth catching the whole replay?

      Good to sew BP denied. BOK doing the job for us.

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      @booboo said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

      Only caught the last 10 this morning.

      Worth catching the whole replay?

      Good to sew BP denied. BOK doing the job for us.

      Yes

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      • SmutsS Smuts

        @booboo said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

        Only caught the last 10 this morning.

        Worth catching the whole replay?

        Good to sew BP denied. BOK doing the job for us.

        Yes

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        #111

        @Smuts said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

        @booboo said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

        Only caught the last 10 this morning.

        Worth catching the whole replay?

        Good to sew BP denied. BOK doing the job for us.

        Yes

        yeah, it was a fun game

        It's funny watching rugby when you have no skin in the game, you actually see a bit more.

        French defense is really good. On the open side they rush 3 or 4, whil the rest of the line is a little back for the next phase. There is a seam there, if you are good enough to find it. On the blind they play an umbrella shape where the winger is furthest forward. Didn't seem to matter how big open or blind was, it was the same pattern.

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          #112

          oh, and they are so good at what in league is called "the wrestle". The up top defender has a 2nd effort to push the tackled player back, slowing the ruck, not allowing yards through the ruck, and making cleaning hard. Got to be strong to do it, and they are.

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            #113

            Uruguay were full value for 65mins. Just fantastic to watch. Also thought BOKeefe had a very solid game.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              oh, and they are so good at what in league is called "the wrestle". The up top defender has a 2nd effort to push the tackled player back, slowing the ruck, not allowing yards through the ruck, and making cleaning hard. Got to be strong to do it, and they are.

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              @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

              oh, and they are so good at what in league is called "the wrestle". The up top defender has a 2nd effort to push the tackled player back, slowing the ruck, not allowing yards through the ruck, and making cleaning hard. Got to be strong to do it, and they are.

              Shaun Edwards’ influence over this French side is enormous.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @Smuts said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                @booboo said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                Only caught the last 10 this morning.

                Worth catching the whole replay?

                Good to sew BP denied. BOK doing the job for us.

                Yes

                yeah, it was a fun game

                It's funny watching rugby when you have no skin in the game, you actually see a bit more.

                French defense is really good. On the open side they rush 3 or 4, whil the rest of the line is a little back for the next phase. There is a seam there, if you are good enough to find it. On the blind they play an umbrella shape where the winger is furthest forward. Didn't seem to matter how big open or blind was, it was the same pattern.

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                #115

                @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                @Smuts said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                @booboo said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                Only caught the last 10 this morning.

                Worth catching the whole replay?

                Good to sew BP denied. BOK doing the job for us.

                Yes

                yeah, it was a fun game

                It's funny watching rugby when you have no skin in the game, you actually see a bit more.

                French defense is really good. On the open side they rush 3 or 4, whil the rest of the line is a little back for the next phase. There is a seam there, if you are good enough to find it. On the blind they play an umbrella shape where the winger is furthest forward. Didn't seem to matter how big open or blind was, it was the same pattern.

                I think Shaun Edwards might have a very different take

                Uruguay comfortably opened up the French midfield and outflanked them on first phase, multi phase, and broken play

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                  #116

                  Let’s start at the very beginning, a very good place to start

                  If anyone thought that the re-recorded backing tracks for the anthems improved proceedings then they don’t have a musical bone in their bodies

                  Too fast

                  An absolute shambles

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                    Fantastic that France is taking the game to the people and playing all around their beautiful country, but the playing surface was an absolute farce of the highest French order

                    Dangerous, and responsible for two of BOK’s whistles against Uruguay

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                      #118

                      What a thrilling match to start the second week of the tournament

                      Was it technical? Yes
                      Were there a lot of free kicks and penalties? Yes
                      Did it constantly flow from end to end? No
                      Did the drama get ratcheted up? Most certainly yes
                      Was it compelling viewing? For me, absolutely

                      This was akin to watching Sean Strickland defeat Israel Adesanya in the UFC last weekend

                      No one in their right mind had Uruguay to win this match, myself included, and most definitely France

                      It was an exercise to see how deep the French squad really is and how robust their game plan with lesser performers

                      Then Uruguay rocked up and showed that both were lacking

                      This officiating team was as bad as Carley & Co and yet there’s barely a mention of how Uruguay were robbed of an all time RWC victory

                      The scrums were a lottery for both sides

                      BOK and his team allowed France to close the gap at the lineout every single time, negating the Uruguay threat and denying them clean, quick ball from which to attack

                      And the YC

                      Filth

                      Led with the elbow/shoulder making direct contact to the head

                      RC every day, but Whitehouse especially bottled it

                      Uruguay were very competitive and save for a moment of madness clearing their lines could have had a bonus point loss

                      I’m absolutely convinced that a 15-man Uruguay would have beaten a 14-man France

                      Uruguay had plenty of opportunities to put pressure on France - they won enough ball and penalties in the right areas of the field - but unfortunately weren’t accurate enough make use of their possession and territory

                      But against a 14-man France those opportunities would have eventually told

                      Well done Uruguay

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        What a thrilling match to start the second week of the tournament

                        Was it technical? Yes
                        Were there a lot of free kicks and penalties? Yes
                        Did it constantly flow from end to end? No
                        Did the drama get ratcheted up? Most certainly yes
                        Was it compelling viewing? For me, absolutely

                        This was akin to watching Sean Strickland defeat Israel Adesanya in the UFC last weekend

                        No one in their right mind had Uruguay to win this match, myself included, and most definitely France

                        It was an exercise to see how deep the French squad really is and how robust their game plan with lesser performers

                        Then Uruguay rocked up and showed that both were lacking

                        This officiating team was as bad as Carley & Co and yet there’s barely a mention of how Uruguay were robbed of an all time RWC victory

                        The scrums were a lottery for both sides

                        BOK and his team allowed France to close the gap at the lineout every single time, negating the Uruguay threat and denying them clean, quick ball from which to attack

                        And the YC

                        Filth

                        Led with the elbow/shoulder making direct contact to the head

                        RC every day, but Whitehouse especially bottled it

                        Uruguay were very competitive and save for a moment of madness clearing their lines could have had a bonus point loss

                        I’m absolutely convinced that a 15-man Uruguay would have beaten a 14-man France

                        Uruguay had plenty of opportunities to put pressure on France - they won enough ball and penalties in the right areas of the field - but unfortunately weren’t accurate enough make use of their possession and territory

                        But against a 14-man France those opportunities would have eventually told

                        Well done Uruguay

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                        #119

                        @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                        And the YC

                        Filth

                        Led with the elbow/shoulder making direct contact to the head

                        RC every day,

                        Just saw the replay and I really don't understand why that was not upgraded to a red card.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                          And the YC

                          Filth

                          Led with the elbow/shoulder making direct contact to the head

                          RC every day,

                          Just saw the replay and I really don't understand why that was not upgraded to a red card.

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                          @Stargazer said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                          @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                          And the YC

                          Filth

                          Led with the elbow/shoulder making direct contact to the head

                          RC every day,

                          Just saw the replay and I really don't understand why that was not upgraded to a red card.

                          Cynically,
                          GDP of France: 3 Trillion USD
                          GDP of Uruguay: 60 Billion USD

                          The head contact is a lottery. It's nuts.

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                          • nzzpN nzzp

                            @Stargazer said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                            @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                            And the YC

                            Filth

                            Led with the elbow/shoulder making direct contact to the head

                            RC every day,

                            Just saw the replay and I really don't understand why that was not upgraded to a red card.

                            Cynically,
                            GDP of France: 3 Trillion USD
                            GDP of Uruguay: 60 Billion USD

                            The head contact is a lottery. It's nuts.

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                            @nzzp

                            I dont think it is even that cynical.

                            You can call it incompetence but it happens far too often to be imcompetence.

                            It’s why we see this kind of thing every week in the premier league.

                            There is so much money involved with partners/sponsors that it becomes a way for the controlling body to control outcomes - one step removed from the refs. Faceless team in a bunker making incompetent decisions.

                            I’ll take my tinfoil hat off now

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                            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                              What a thrilling match to start the second week of the tournament

                              Was it technical? Yes
                              Were there a lot of free kicks and penalties? Yes
                              Did it constantly flow from end to end? No
                              Did the drama get ratcheted up? Most certainly yes
                              Was it compelling viewing? For me, absolutely

                              This was akin to watching Sean Strickland defeat Israel Adesanya in the UFC last weekend

                              No one in their right mind had Uruguay to win this match, myself included, and most definitely France

                              It was an exercise to see how deep the French squad really is and how robust their game plan with lesser performers

                              Then Uruguay rocked up and showed that both were lacking

                              This officiating team was as bad as Carley & Co and yet there’s barely a mention of how Uruguay were robbed of an all time RWC victory

                              The scrums were a lottery for both sides

                              BOK and his team allowed France to close the gap at the lineout every single time, negating the Uruguay threat and denying them clean, quick ball from which to attack

                              And the YC

                              Filth

                              Led with the elbow/shoulder making direct contact to the head

                              RC every day, but Whitehouse especially bottled it

                              Uruguay were very competitive and save for a moment of madness clearing their lines could have had a bonus point loss

                              I’m absolutely convinced that a 15-man Uruguay would have beaten a 14-man France

                              Uruguay had plenty of opportunities to put pressure on France - they won enough ball and penalties in the right areas of the field - but unfortunately weren’t accurate enough make use of their possession and territory

                              But against a 14-man France those opportunities would have eventually told

                              Well done Uruguay

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                              @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                              What a thrilling match to start the second week of the tournament

                              Was it technical? Yes
                              Were there a lot of free kicks and penalties? Yes
                              Did it constantly flow from end to end? No
                              Did the drama get ratcheted up? Most certainly yes
                              Was it compelling viewing? For me, absolutely

                              This was akin to watching Sean Strickland defeat Israel Adesanya in the UFC last weekend

                              No one in their right mind had Uruguay to win this match, myself included, and most definitely France

                              It was an exercise to see how deep the French squad really is and how robust their game plan with lesser performers

                              Then Uruguay rocked up and showed that both were lacking

                              This officiating team was as bad as Carley & Co and yet there’s barely a mention of how Uruguay were robbed of an all time RWC victory

                              The scrums were a lottery for both sides

                              BOK and his team allowed France to close the gap at the lineout every single time, negating the Uruguay threat and denying them clean, quick ball from which to attack

                              And the YC

                              Filth

                              Led with the elbow/shoulder making direct contact to the head

                              RC every day, but Whitehouse especially bottled it

                              Uruguay were very competitive and save for a moment of madness clearing their lines could have had a bonus point loss

                              I’m absolutely convinced that a 15-man Uruguay would have beaten a 14-man France

                              Uruguay had plenty of opportunities to put pressure on France - they won enough ball and penalties in the right areas of the field - but unfortunately weren’t accurate enough make use of their possession and territory

                              But against a 14-man France those opportunities would have eventually told

                              Well done Uruguay

                              Think you are doing what you told us we did with Fiji. Take the side of the underdog. Uruguay scrum was saved by BOKs pity. Uruguay made an absolute heap of unforced knockons. Definite blocking line for mine. YC could have been RC but not clear cut for me. Uruguay pulled down a maul in the first half that could have been YC and penalty try.

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                              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                                What a thrilling match to start the second week of the tournament

                                Was it technical? Yes
                                Were there a lot of free kicks and penalties? Yes
                                Did it constantly flow from end to end? No
                                Did the drama get ratcheted up? Most certainly yes
                                Was it compelling viewing? For me, absolutely

                                This was akin to watching Sean Strickland defeat Israel Adesanya in the UFC last weekend

                                No one in their right mind had Uruguay to win this match, myself included, and most definitely France

                                It was an exercise to see how deep the French squad really is and how robust their game plan with lesser performers

                                Then Uruguay rocked up and showed that both were lacking

                                This officiating team was as bad as Carley & Co and yet there’s barely a mention of how Uruguay were robbed of an all time RWC victory

                                The scrums were a lottery for both sides

                                BOK and his team allowed France to close the gap at the lineout every single time, negating the Uruguay threat and denying them clean, quick ball from which to attack

                                And the YC

                                Filth

                                Led with the elbow/shoulder making direct contact to the head

                                RC every day, but Whitehouse especially bottled it

                                Uruguay were very competitive and save for a moment of madness clearing their lines could have had a bonus point loss

                                I’m absolutely convinced that a 15-man Uruguay would have beaten a 14-man France

                                Uruguay had plenty of opportunities to put pressure on France - they won enough ball and penalties in the right areas of the field - but unfortunately weren’t accurate enough make use of their possession and territory

                                But against a 14-man France those opportunities would have eventually told

                                Well done Uruguay

                                Think you are doing what you told us we did with Fiji. Take the side of the underdog. Uruguay scrum was saved by BOKs pity. Uruguay made an absolute heap of unforced knockons. Definite blocking line for mine. YC could have been RC but not clear cut for me. Uruguay pulled down a maul in the first half that could have been YC and penalty try.

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                                @Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                                @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 2: France v Uruguay:

                                What a thrilling match to start the second week of the tournament

                                Was it technical? Yes
                                Were there a lot of free kicks and penalties? Yes
                                Did it constantly flow from end to end? No
                                Did the drama get ratcheted up? Most certainly yes
                                Was it compelling viewing? For me, absolutely

                                This was akin to watching Sean Strickland defeat Israel Adesanya in the UFC last weekend

                                No one in their right mind had Uruguay to win this match, myself included, and most definitely France

                                It was an exercise to see how deep the French squad really is and how robust their game plan with lesser performers

                                Then Uruguay rocked up and showed that both were lacking

                                This officiating team was as bad as Carley & Co and yet there’s barely a mention of how Uruguay were robbed of an all time RWC victory

                                The scrums were a lottery for both sides

                                BOK and his team allowed France to close the gap at the lineout every single time, negating the Uruguay threat and denying them clean, quick ball from which to attack

                                And the YC

                                Filth

                                Led with the elbow/shoulder making direct contact to the head

                                RC every day, but Whitehouse especially bottled it

                                Uruguay were very competitive and save for a moment of madness clearing their lines could have had a bonus point loss

                                I’m absolutely convinced that a 15-man Uruguay would have beaten a 14-man France

                                Uruguay had plenty of opportunities to put pressure on France - they won enough ball and penalties in the right areas of the field - but unfortunately weren’t accurate enough make use of their possession and territory

                                But against a 14-man France those opportunities would have eventually told

                                Well done Uruguay

                                Think you are doing what you told us we did with Fiji. Take the side of the underdog. Uruguay scrum was saved by BOKs pity. Uruguay made an absolute heap of unforced knockons. Definite blocking line for mine. YC could have been RC but not clear cut for me. Uruguay pulled down a maul in the first half that could have been YC and penalty try.

                                Not at all

                                Uruguay lost because they were inaccurate and didn’t convert the opportunities they created

                                I stand by my comment on BOK’ scrum interpretation

                                PS Wales we’re the underdogs

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                                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                  What a thrilling match to start the second week of the tournament

                                  Was it technical? Yes
                                  Were there a lot of free kicks and penalties? Yes
                                  Did it constantly flow from end to end? No
                                  Did the drama get ratcheted up? Most certainly yes
                                  Was it compelling viewing? For me, absolutely

                                  This was akin to watching Sean Strickland defeat Israel Adesanya in the UFC last weekend

                                  No one in their right mind had Uruguay to win this match, myself included, and most definitely France

                                  It was an exercise to see how deep the French squad really is and how robust their game plan with lesser performers

                                  Then Uruguay rocked up and showed that both were lacking

                                  This officiating team was as bad as Carley & Co and yet there’s barely a mention of how Uruguay were robbed of an all time RWC victory

                                  The scrums were a lottery for both sides

                                  BOK and his team allowed France to close the gap at the lineout every single time, negating the Uruguay threat and denying them clean, quick ball from which to attack

                                  And the YC

                                  Filth

                                  Led with the elbow/shoulder making direct contact to the head

                                  RC every day, but Whitehouse especially bottled it

                                  Uruguay were very competitive and save for a moment of madness clearing their lines could have had a bonus point loss

                                  I’m absolutely convinced that a 15-man Uruguay would have beaten a 14-man France

                                  Uruguay had plenty of opportunities to put pressure on France - they won enough ball and penalties in the right areas of the field - but unfortunately weren’t accurate enough make use of their possession and territory

                                  But against a 14-man France those opportunities would have eventually told

                                  Well done Uruguay

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                                  @MiketheSnow
                                  https://thesilverfern.com/post/751-thrilling-to-start-week-two-fra-v-uru/

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