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RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay

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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    I've only watched the highlights, but the officiating was clearly a problem - again. Uruguay were rightly pissed-off after the final whistle.

    I don't know what the answer is, but an acknowledgement from World Rugby that there is clearly a problem would be a good start.

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    taniwharugby
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    #32

    @Victor-Meldrew we have known for years there were currently and would be issues with officiating.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @MiketheSnow surely he has to trust he has a better view of things?

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      @taniwharugby said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

      @MiketheSnow surely he has to trust he has a better view of things?

      Why?

      The TMO is seeing exactly what Gardner is seeing

      And Gardner got to see stuff on the pitch as well

      In real time, the TMO has an advantageous/better view

      Once play has stopped the view is the same

      Then it's about interpretation and influence

      Gardner absolved himself of his duty - can't blame him with all the reversals and shithousery in disciplinary meetings - but he could have and should have had the final call

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      • BonesB Bones

        @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

        Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

        Gardner is awful
        Always had been
        Hope we don’t see him this RWC
        A lottery

        Yeah but you're not neutral.

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        @Bones said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

        @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

        Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

        Gardner is awful
        Always had been
        Hope we don’t see him this RWC
        A lottery

        Yeah but you're not neutral.

        Don't have to be

        Blind Freddy could see that balls were dropped and the Italian 7 pushed his own man into the Uruguayan 12

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        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

          @Bones said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

          @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

          Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

          Gardner is awful
          Always had been
          Hope we don’t see him this RWC
          A lottery

          Yeah but you're not neutral.

          Don't have to be

          Blind Freddy could see that balls were dropped and the Italian 7 pushed his own man into the Uruguayan 12

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          @MiketheSnow Freddy over Freddie. Hola!

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          • BonesB Bones

            @MiketheSnow Freddy over Freddie. Hola!

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            @Bones said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

            @MiketheSnow Freddy over Freddie. Hola!

            I was using the Aussie vernacular

            G'day

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            • CatograndeC Catogrande

              @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

              @Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

              @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

              Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

              Gardner is awful
              Always had been
              Hope we don’t see him this RWC
              A lottery

              Not my favourite ref by any stretch, but he was hung out to dry by his TMO today. Appalling performance.

              And he could also have overruled him

              Ideally yes, but it is very rare for a ref to have balls big enough. This is something of a blight on the game IMO. Refs are supposed to be the sole arbiters, backed up by the touch judges and TMO, but it now seems that the TMO is calling all the shots.

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              @Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

              @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

              @Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

              @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

              Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

              Gardner is awful
              Always had been
              Hope we don’t see him this RWC
              A lottery

              Not my favourite ref by any stretch, but he was hung out to dry by his TMO today. Appalling performance.

              And he could also have overruled him

              Ideally yes, but it is very rare for a ref to have balls big enough. This is something of a blight on the game IMO. Refs are supposed to be the sole arbiters, backed up by the touch judges and TMO, but it now seems that the TMO is calling all the shots.

              Carley

              Carley: Any reason I can’t award the try?
              TMO: No, no reason
              Carley: No try.

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              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                @Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

                @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

                @Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

                @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

                Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

                Gardner is awful
                Always had been
                Hope we don’t see him this RWC
                A lottery

                Not my favourite ref by any stretch, but he was hung out to dry by his TMO today. Appalling performance.

                And he could also have overruled him

                Ideally yes, but it is very rare for a ref to have balls big enough. This is something of a blight on the game IMO. Refs are supposed to be the sole arbiters, backed up by the touch judges and TMO, but it now seems that the TMO is calling all the shots.

                Carley

                Carley: Any reason I can’t award the try?
                TMO: No, no reason
                Carley: No try.

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                @Billy-Tell said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

                @Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

                @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

                @Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

                @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

                Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

                Gardner is awful
                Always had been
                Hope we don’t see him this RWC
                A lottery

                Not my favourite ref by any stretch, but he was hung out to dry by his TMO today. Appalling performance.

                And he could also have overruled him

                Ideally yes, but it is very rare for a ref to have balls big enough. This is something of a blight on the game IMO. Refs are supposed to be the sole arbiters, backed up by the touch judges and TMO, but it now seems that the TMO is calling all the shots.

                Carley

                Carley: Any reason I can’t award the try?
                TMO: No, no reason
                Carley: No try.

                :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                There are refs, refs with balls and then there's Carley.

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                • CatograndeC Catogrande

                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

                  @Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

                  Uruguay been hard done by two games in a row

                  Gardner is awful
                  Always had been
                  Hope we don’t see him this RWC
                  A lottery

                  Not my favourite ref by any stretch, but he was hung out to dry by his TMO today. Appalling performance.

                  And he could also have overruled him

                  Ideally yes, but it is very rare for a ref to have balls big enough. This is something of a blight on the game IMO. Refs are supposed to be the sole arbiters, backed up by the touch judges and TMO, but it now seems that the TMO is calling all the shots.

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                  #39

                  @Catogrande said in RWC Week 3: Italy v Uruguay:

                  sole arbiters

                  Not sure the current laws have the "sole judge of fact and law" written into them like they used to.

                  Need to check.

                  Think it's far more wishy washy.

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                    #40

                    FYI First Southern Lapwing try:penalty try and YC against the Eyeties ...

                    Anyone whinging that it should never have been awarded, and it was a free kick to Italy for deliberately preventing the ball being thrown in 5m?

                    Lapwings took that lineout at about 4m. Obvious live side on. End on it was horrible.

                    Awful call.

                    But doesn't suit the narrative that Uruguay were robbed.

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                      #41

                      didnt see tha game but this is a bit fucking mad

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        didnt see tha game but this is a bit fucking mad

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                        #42

                        @Kiwiwomble Clear penalty. You can't have more than 15 players in the playing area during play.

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