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Chiefs v Crusaders

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    Can't see Lio-Willie being kept out of the starting 15 for too long. Workhorse for the Crusaders in the 2nd-half.

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      Can't see Lio-Willie being kept out of the starting 15 for too long. Workhorse for the Crusaders in the 2nd-half.

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      Canes4life
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      @Old-Samurai-Jack agreed, Gardiner was rubbish in that first half.

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        Never in doubt

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          @Duluth said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

          Fihaki & Reihana aren’t good enough to be starters

          Disagree on reihana, he's been fine

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          @Machpants same, i thought Reihanas first start of Super Rugby level has been great. First game of the season amd hes performed well. Doesnt help when he has big shoes to fill

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              So good to watch a game without all the stoppages.

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                ACT Crusader
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                Bring back Razor

                Massive shift from the old dog, Franks.

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                    Good win, will take it. Was 24-10 when I left for work, and 27-22 when I got in. Shitty commute.

                    But chiefs got it together at the end against the All Black team of 2015. Nice to see them come back and close it out.

                    Decent level for first game of the tournament! Not much post-summer rust.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @taniwharugby said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                      be better having Crotty at 12 and one if them outside him.

                      McLeod might be a better winger.

                      Havili is back soon too (next week?). I’d be tempted to find room for him and Crotty somehow

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                      @Duluth said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                      @taniwharugby said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                      be better having Crotty at 12 and one if them outside him.

                      McLeod might be a better winger.

                      Havili is back soon too (next week?). I’d be tempted to find room for him and Crotty somehow

                      Havili to fullback, Crotty 12, McLeod 13, Fihaki wing, Aumua and Springer to the bench.

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                        @Machpants same, i thought Reihanas first start of Super Rugby level has been great. First game of the season amd hes performed well. Doesnt help when he has big shoes to fill

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                        @raymelb said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                        @Machpants same, i thought Reihanas first start of Super Rugby level has been great. First game of the season amd hes performed well. Doesnt help when he has big shoes to fill

                        He seemed cumbersome at times but never got charged down or anything did he? Looked right at home.

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                          @raymelb said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                          @Machpants same, i thought Reihanas first start of Super Rugby level has been great. First game of the season amd hes performed well. Doesnt help when he has big shoes to fill

                          He seemed cumbersome at times but never got charged down or anything did he? Looked right at home.

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                          @Bones yea aside from that audacious play from his 50-22, played within himself, has plenty more to give, and certainly learn from.

                          Huge ask for either him or Kemara to step into Moungas boots as starters in the opening hit out, sink or swim time.

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                            Yeah I thought Reihana improved in the second half. Worth sticking with at 10 for now - Chiefs away is about as tough as it gets in the comp.

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                              @Bones yea aside from that audacious play from his 50-22, played within himself, has plenty more to give, and certainly learn from.

                              Huge ask for either him or Kemara to step into Moungas boots as starters in the opening hit out, sink or swim time.

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                              @taniwharugby said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                              @Bones yea aside from that audacious play from his 50-22, played within himself, has plenty more to give, and certainly learn from.

                              Huge ask for either him or Kemara to step into Moungas boots as starters in the opening hit out, sink or swim time.

                              The fact he didn't sink to me says quite a bit. He no doubt has gears to his game, and now has the shirt for the time being.

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                                He must improve his kicking from hand. Most of his kicks for touch were very short. This is mainly a question of technique for him as he seems to have strong legs. So this could be fixed.

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                                  I thought I would watch a replay before commenting. This was a game where the team that controlled possession dominated the game. The Chiefs had all the momentum in the 1st half, whereas the Crusaders turned that around in the 2nd half. Happy with the win.

                                  From a Chiefs perspective, the loss of DMac was huge. It was noticeable how ineffective Ioane's kicking was in comparison and that led to two Crusaders tries. Ioane's strength is his running. I still don't see Boshier as a 7 as he didn't put any pressure on at the breakdown. It will be interesting to see his tackle stats. Parker should have come on earlier. Both locks were busy, and Slater's throwing was good (usually a weakness). ENS and Tupaea were the pick of the backs for me. Narawa was certainly missed to provide more power from deep. LCF tries hard but needs space to operate.

                                  It was ironic that the Crusaders did a SA by putting Franks back on the field to improve the scrum, and then Moody concedes the penalty. Aumua was as anonymous as I thought he was at the game.

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                                    I thought I would watch a replay before commenting. This was a game where the team that controlled possession dominated the game. The Chiefs had all the momentum in the 1st half, whereas the Crusaders turned that around in the 2nd half. Happy with the win.

                                    From a Chiefs perspective, the loss of DMac was huge. It was noticeable how ineffective Ioane's kicking was in comparison and that led to two Crusaders tries. Ioane's strength is his running. I still don't see Boshier as a 7 as he didn't put any pressure on at the breakdown. It will be interesting to see his tackle stats. Parker should have come on earlier. Both locks were busy, and Slater's throwing was good (usually a weakness). ENS and Tupaea were the pick of the backs for me. Narawa was certainly missed to provide more power from deep. LCF tries hard but needs space to operate.

                                    It was ironic that the Crusaders did a SA by putting Franks back on the field to improve the scrum, and then Moody concedes the penalty. Aumua was as anonymous as I thought he was at the game.

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                                    @Bovidae said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                    I still don't see Boshier as a 7 as he didn't put any pressure on at the breakdown. It will be interesting to see his tackle stats.

                                    Made 9 missed 2, 0 dominant

                                    Only Chiefs player with more tackles was Jacobson with 10

                                    He had 19 ruck arrivals (5th best Chiefs). Jacobson had 31

                                    I have the full opta stats from the game if you want to know anything else

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                                      @Bovidae said in Chiefs v Crusaders:

                                      I still don't see Boshier as a 7 as he didn't put any pressure on at the breakdown. It will be interesting to see his tackle stats.

                                      Made 9 missed 2, 0 dominant

                                      Only Chiefs player with more tackles was Jacobson with 10

                                      He had 19 ruck arrivals (5th best Chiefs). Jacobson had 31

                                      I have the full opta stats from the game if you want to know anything else

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      @Duluth I'd be keen to see the tackle and run stats for the starting loose forwards and midfielders.

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                                        @Duluth I'd be keen to see the tackle and run stats for the starting loose forwards and midfielders.

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                                        The midfielders:

                                        Player Tackles Missed Dominant Runs Carry metres Dominant carries Ineffective carries
                                        QT (72mins) 5 2 1 16 140 7 2
                                        ALB (75mins) 8 1 1 12 77 3 1
                                        Aumua (61mins) 9 3 1 2 8 0 0
                                        McLeod (80mins) 8 3 1 12 67 1 1
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                                          Sheesh, Aumua will wish he was back with MP where he would have the most runs as he'd get the ball every passage of play.

                                          How do they define ineffective carry? If a player gets a ball behind the line with defenders at the same time yet doesn't turn it over I'd say that's an effective carry, but I assume it would be an ineffective one due to lots ground.

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