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Hurricanes vs Crusaders

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    • BonesB Bones

      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

      @Bones said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

      @Bovidae said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

      I thought Lakai was the best player on the park in that second half. He was everywhere. Iose is not a 6 and was massively shown up tonight. Way too loose.

      I was referring to Aumua and Love. Both had a chance to make a statement and didn't. Agree on Lakai.

      Aumua still looks like he’s half injured. Definitely needs to get fit again fast.

      That Canes FR are coming into the season very slowly. Lomax seemed a bit better tonight but I only saw the first half really and he still looks like he ate Lomax in the off season.

      Hopefully a trip on the road will do this team good. Aumua and Lomax need to start playing well if the Canes want to make the top 6 from here.

      If you look at it from a wider perspective, there appears to be a number of mainstay ABs that look as though they're struggling to get into the game and generally looking well off the pace. So hopefully it's just the change in the coaching regime has had an even bigger impact than usual on some players training schedule.

      DMac, Ardie, Vaai notable exceptions.

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      @Bones said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

      @Bones said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

      @Bovidae said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

      I thought Lakai was the best player on the park in that second half. He was everywhere. Iose is not a 6 and was massively shown up tonight. Way too loose.

      I was referring to Aumua and Love. Both had a chance to make a statement and didn't. Agree on Lakai.

      Aumua still looks like he’s half injured. Definitely needs to get fit again fast.

      That Canes FR are coming into the season very slowly. Lomax seemed a bit better tonight but I only saw the first half really and he still looks like he ate Lomax in the off season.

      Hopefully a trip on the road will do this team good. Aumua and Lomax need to start playing well if the Canes want to make the top 6 from here.

      If you look at it from a wider perspective, there appears to be a number of mainstay ABs that look as though they're struggling to get into the game and generally looking well off the pace. So hopefully it's just the change in the coaching regime has had an even bigger impact than usual on some players training schedule.

      DMac, Ardie, Vaai notable exceptions.

      Nek minute

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        @Bones said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

        @Bones said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

        @Bovidae said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

        @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

        I thought Lakai was the best player on the park in that second half. He was everywhere. Iose is not a 6 and was massively shown up tonight. Way too loose.

        I was referring to Aumua and Love. Both had a chance to make a statement and didn't. Agree on Lakai.

        Aumua still looks like he’s half injured. Definitely needs to get fit again fast.

        That Canes FR are coming into the season very slowly. Lomax seemed a bit better tonight but I only saw the first half really and he still looks like he ate Lomax in the off season.

        Hopefully a trip on the road will do this team good. Aumua and Lomax need to start playing well if the Canes want to make the top 6 from here.

        If you look at it from a wider perspective, there appears to be a number of mainstay ABs that look as though they're struggling to get into the game and generally looking well off the pace. So hopefully it's just the change in the coaching regime has had an even bigger impact than usual on some players training schedule.

        DMac, Ardie, Vaai notable exceptions.

        Nek minute

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        @Machpants was he a bit shit today? Had to take the princess for a walk then had a work call so was just on in the background.

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          Will Moananu leapfrog Aumua in the AB squad this year ? He is the best LO thrower of the competition and is great in the loose. He is also very good as a fetcher.

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            Will Moananu leapfrog Aumua in the AB squad this year ? He is the best LO thrower of the competition and is great in the loose. He is also very good as a fetcher.

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            @cgrant channelling Kevin Mealamu

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              Was George Bell the wrong player to invest in for the ABs last year?

              Moananu looks 10 times better.

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                Was George Bell the wrong player to invest in for the ABs last year?

                Moananu looks 10 times better.

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                @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                Was George Bell the wrong player to invest in for the ABs last year?

                Moananu looks 10 times better.

                Too early to tell, Bell has hardly been on the park. Bell was pretty bloody good at age grade level so there is some talent there. It will be an interesting battle.

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                  Moananu looks a AB in waiting. I won't be writing off Bell yet, he was a real talent at U20s.

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                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360651711/new-crusaders-hooker-four-tries-three-games

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                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                      @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                      Was George Bell the wrong player to invest in for the ABs last year?

                      Moananu looks 10 times better.

                      Too early to tell, Bell has hardly been on the park. Bell was pretty bloody good at age grade level so there is some talent there. It will be an interesting battle.

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                      @Crazy-Horse said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                      @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                      Was George Bell the wrong player to invest in for the ABs last year?

                      Moananu looks 10 times better.

                      Too early to tell, Bell has hardly been on the park. Bell was pretty bloody good at age grade level so there is some talent there. It will be an interesting battle.

                      He was last year and was awful albeit in a struggling side, yet managed 3 tests undeserved.

                      From what I've seen of both, Moananu looks the far better prospect. Quicker over the ball (one of the best in the comp), stronger on the carry, better thrower (Bell was awful in that department last year), so yeah, I think Moananu could be the better one and looks like a matter of when, not if he gets a callup to the next level.

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                        @Crazy-Horse said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                        @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                        Was George Bell the wrong player to invest in for the ABs last year?

                        Moananu looks 10 times better.

                        Too early to tell, Bell has hardly been on the park. Bell was pretty bloody good at age grade level so there is some talent there. It will be an interesting battle.

                        He was last year and was awful albeit in a struggling side, yet managed 3 tests undeserved.

                        From what I've seen of both, Moananu looks the far better prospect. Quicker over the ball (one of the best in the comp), stronger on the carry, better thrower (Bell was awful in that department last year), so yeah, I think Moananu could be the better one and looks like a matter of when, not if he gets a callup to the next level.

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                        @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                        @Crazy-Horse said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                        @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                        Was George Bell the wrong player to invest in for the ABs last year?

                        Moananu looks 10 times better.

                        Too early to tell, Bell has hardly been on the park. Bell was pretty bloody good at age grade level so there is some talent there. It will be an interesting battle.

                        He was last year and was awful albeit in a struggling side, yet managed 3 tests undeserved.

                        From what I've seen of both, Moananu looks the far better prospect. Quicker over the ball (one of the best in the comp), stronger on the carry, better thrower (Bell was awful in that department last year), so yeah, I think Moananu could be the better one and looks like a matter of when, not if he gets a callup to the next level.

                        Bell's throwing last year was weird, up until then throwing didn't seem a problem for him. Agree Moananu has made every post a winner, but it's still early days.

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                          All these promising number 2s around it’s fantastic but can we have some 10s as well?

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                            Yeah sorry Canes, you'll need to do better than that.

                            Quite a few things not quite ticking for the Crusaders yet but it is early in the season - shit handling, missed tackles, standing off turnover ball, but we certainly have the individuals and it will get better.

                            Shit Wallaby James O'Connor playing the best rugby of his life for the Crusaders. We are adding Moananu to Springer for nominations for Best Outstanding Breakout Crusader Performance Of The Year in the Fernies. Nice game from Dogroll.

                            The pass at 13:08 in the video above was forward.

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                            @Canerbry said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                            We are adding Moananu to Springer for nominations for Best Outstanding Breakout Crusader Performance Of The Year in the Fernies.

                            Conversation for the Crusaders thread so move across if you want.

                            Does anyone know their contract situations? 2 players with a few good players in front of them.

                            Springer(who also fancies himself as a fullback), with Reece, Fihaki, Jordan and Leicester(yes he also wants to be 13) and Hutchinson coming through the system.

                            Moananu with 2 ABs in Codie Taylor and George Bell who will be in front of him as well as 2 NZ u20 hookers in Manumaua Letiu who has already debuted for the Crusaders and u20 player of the tournament in Eli Oudenryn who are massive talents who will be right behind him.

                            There will be a 2 or 3 handy players up for grabs in the near future for other provinces and teams from that bunch. Something to keep an eye on. I know the Highlanders could do with a solid hooker prospect to compete with Kempton and Jack Taylor.

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                              @Canerbry said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                              We are adding Moananu to Springer for nominations for Best Outstanding Breakout Crusader Performance Of The Year in the Fernies.

                              Conversation for the Crusaders thread so move across if you want.

                              Does anyone know their contract situations? 2 players with a few good players in front of them.

                              Springer(who also fancies himself as a fullback), with Reece, Fihaki, Jordan and Leicester(yes he also wants to be 13) and Hutchinson coming through the system.

                              Moananu with 2 ABs in Codie Taylor and George Bell who will be in front of him as well as 2 NZ u20 hookers in Manumaua Letiu who has already debuted for the Crusaders and u20 player of the tournament in Eli Oudenryn who are massive talents who will be right behind him.

                              There will be a 2 or 3 handy players up for grabs in the near future for other provinces and teams from that bunch. Something to keep an eye on. I know the Highlanders could do with a solid hooker prospect to compete with Kempton and Jack Taylor.

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                              @Landers92 said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                              @Canerbry said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                              We are adding Moananu to Springer for nominations for Best Outstanding Breakout Crusader Performance Of The Year in the Fernies.

                              Conversation for the Crusaders thread so move across if you want.

                              Does anyone know their contract situations? 2 players with a few good players in front of them.

                              Springer(who also fancies himself as a fullback), with Reece, Fihaki, Jordan and Leicester(yes he always wants to be 13) and Hutchinson coming through the system.

                              Moananu with 2 ABs in Codie Taylor and George Bell who will be in front of him as well as 2 NZ u20 hookers in Manumaua Letiu who has already debuted for the Crusaders and u20 player of the tournament in Eli Oudenryn who are massive talents who will be right behind him.

                              There will be a 2 or 3 handy players up for grabs in the near future for other provinces and teams from that bunch. Something to keep an eye on. I know the Highlanders could do with a solid hooker prospect to compete with Kempton and Jack Taylor.

                              Moaning signed a 2 year to 2026.

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                                Moananu looked the goods 2 years ago when he debuted for Crusaders and has been available to sign before this year

                                How did other franchises not sign him

                                Meanwhile Canes sign guys like Tuputupu

                                It's comical

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                                  Yeah sorry Canes, you'll need to do better than that.

                                  Quite a few things not quite ticking for the Crusaders yet but it is early in the season - shit handling, missed tackles, standing off turnover ball, but we certainly have the individuals and it will get better.

                                  Shit Wallaby James O'Connor playing the best rugby of his life for the Crusaders. We are adding Moananu to Springer for nominations for Best Outstanding Breakout Crusader Performance Of The Year in the Fernies. Nice game from Dogroll.

                                  The pass at 13:08 in the video above was forward.

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                                  @Canerbry said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                                  Yeah sorry Canes, you'll need to do better than that.

                                  Quite a few things not quite ticking for the Crusaders yet but it is early in the season - shit handling, missed tackles, standing off turnover ball, but we certainly have the individuals and it will get better.

                                  Shit Wallaby James O'Connor playing the best rugby of his life for the Crusaders. We are adding Moananu to Springer for nominations for Best Outstanding Breakout Crusader Performance Of The Year in the Fernies. Nice game from Dogroll.

                                  The pass at 13:08 in the video above was forward.

                                  The Canes are having similar issues to the Crusaders last year, they just can’t seem to get their best team on the park and are relying on a very ordinary 10 to run the ship. I’d be pretty confident if we had all players available we would look like a completely different team. Just one of those seasons unfortunately.

                                  Thankfully we’ll get a couple of key players back next week so who knows what will happen from here.

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                                    Was George Bell the wrong player to invest in for the ABs last year?

                                    Moananu looks 10 times better.

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                                    @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                                    Was George Bell the wrong player to invest in for the ABs last year?

                                    Moananu looks 10 times better.

                                    The only issue with Moananu is his height. 5 foot 8 is tiny for an international Hooker these days.

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                                      @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                                      Was George Bell the wrong player to invest in for the ABs last year?

                                      Moananu looks 10 times better.

                                      The only issue with Moananu is his height. 5 foot 8 is tiny for an international Hooker these days.

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                                      @sparky said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                                      @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                                      Was George Bell the wrong player to invest in for the ABs last year?

                                      Moananu looks 10 times better.

                                      The only issue with Moananu is his height. 5 foot 8 is tiny for an international Hooker these days.

                                      He becomes more effective at breakdown as he gets low to the ground.

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                                        @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                                        Was George Bell the wrong player to invest in for the ABs last year?

                                        Moananu looks 10 times better.

                                        The only issue with Moananu is his height. 5 foot 8 is tiny for an international Hooker these days.

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                                        @sparky said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                                        @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                                        Was George Bell the wrong player to invest in for the ABs last year?

                                        Moananu looks 10 times better.

                                        The only issue with Moananu is his height. 5 foot 8 is tiny for an international Hooker these days.

                                        Yep, if Mbonambi had been an inch shorter, he wouldn't even have got one game of international rugby.

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                                          And despite the comments here, I though both Love and Roigard were fine, for the shit they were fed. Neither set the world on fire, but very hard to do when you're getting smashed all over the park. The difference when Roigard went off was stark. Both did nothing to really dent their ABs prospects

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