Springboks v Italy II
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@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
Wiese goes full Wiese. Red card for a headbutt.
I thought there was nothing in that - just touched his forehead with the Italian player. Totally deserved Red for stupidity in today's reffing environment, though.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
Wiese goes full Wiese. Red card for a headbutt.
I thought there was nothing in that - just touched his forehead with the Italian player. Totally deserved Red for stupidity in today's reffing environment, though.
Prexactly. There's zero reason to do it, doing it either shows you've lost your head or you're trying to aggravate others to. Fuck it off.
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The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?
SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?
SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.
Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005
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A 14 man Sth Africa with loads of new players are making the Italian A team look a bit silly.
Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.
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A 14 man Sth Africa with loads of new players are making the Italian A team look a bit silly.
Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:
Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.
Lose horribly.
Who are the new players?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:
Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.
Lose horribly.
Who are the new players?
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:
Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.
Lose horribly.
Who are the new players?
I heard the Saffa commentators talking about 4 debutants.
Strikes me SA are years ahead of us player-pool/development wise
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@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:
Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.
Lose horribly.
Who are the new players?
I heard the Saffa commentators talking about 4 debutants.
Strikes me SA are years ahead of us player-pool/development wise
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:
Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.
Lose horribly.
Who are the new players?
I heard the Saffa commentators talking about 4 debutants.
Strikes me SA are years ahead of us player-pool/development wise
By playing 4 debutants against what appears to be a weakened Italy?
I can't tell if you're taking the piss or angling on a foster defence.
Norris, Holland, Kirifi, Tavatavanawai....
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:
Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.
Lose horribly.
Who are the new players?
I heard the Saffa commentators talking about 4 debutants.
Strikes me SA are years ahead of us player-pool/development wise
By playing 4 debutants against what appears to be a weakened Italy?
I can't tell if you're taking the piss or angling on a foster defence.
Norris, Holland, Kirifi, Tavatavanawai....
Thinking more about how much better SA are at developing players.
And playing for 80 minutes...
EDIT: The Barrett Conglomerate make up for stupid cards though.....
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@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:
Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.
Lose horribly.
Who are the new players?
I heard the Saffa commentators talking about 4 debutants.
Strikes me SA are years ahead of us player-pool/development wise
@Victor-Meldrew Hardly the Italian A team. Development tour
Ferrari, Lamaro, Capuozzo, Luchessi, Brex, Relo, Allan and Ruzza missing. Lots of new guys getting a look in.
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Thinking more about how much better SA are at developing players.
And playing for 80 minutes...
EDIT: The Barrett Conglomerate make up for stupid cards though.....
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:
Thinking more about how much better SA are at developing players.
And playing for 80 minutes...
Their depth is scary good atm. They do have the massive advantage of having 4x the registered players that we do and they pick from overseas. We also lose plenty of our schoolboy talent to the NRL, something that they don't have to worry about.
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@Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:
Hate to think what they'd do to the French team currently in NZ.
Lose horribly.
Who are the new players?
I heard the Saffa commentators talking about 4 debutants.
Strikes me SA are years ahead of us player-pool/development wise
@Victor-Meldrew they have a clear way of playing. It helps. Quite a lot of change coming in the next 2-3 years as their squad changes.
They have an insane amount of talent, but SA always has. Rassie is adept at selecting the right players for how he wants to play. They still bleed when you cut them though
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@Victor-Meldrew Hardly the Italian A team. Development tour
Ferrari, Lamaro, Capuozzo, Luchessi, Brex, Relo, Allan and Ruzza missing. Lots of new guys getting a look in.
Like the French team. Was more commenting about how much more clinical SA are for 80 mins and how much depth they have.
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@Victor-Meldrew they have a clear way of playing. It helps. Quite a lot of change coming in the next 2-3 years as their squad changes.
They have an insane amount of talent, but SA always has. Rassie is adept at selecting the right players for how he wants to play. They still bleed when you cut them though
@stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:
@Victor-Meldrew they have a clear way of playing. It helps. Quite a lot of change coming in the next 2-3 years as their squad changes.
They have an insane amount of talent, but SA always has. Rassie is adept at selecting the right players for how he wants to play. They still bleed when you cut them though
Hope so. Want to roll them over in the RC.
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Thinking more about how much better SA are at developing players.
And playing for 80 minutes...
EDIT: The Barrett Conglomerate make up for stupid cards though.....
@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:
Thinking more about how much better SA are at developing players.
And playing for 80 minutes...
EDIT: The Barrett Conglomerate make up for stupid cards though.....
I'm just at a bit of a loss comparing Italy development team to France development team. And the bit about 4 debutants really made my whoosh alert spin.
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Like the French team. Was more commenting about how much more clinical SA are for 80 mins and how much depth they have.
@Victor-Meldrew maybe. But the Boks have 11 reasonably experienced players playing alongside the rookies. And none of the rookies are playing in combos with other rookies.
Whereas the French forward pack today was green and got dealt to (as they should) until the experience rolled off the bench.
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@Victor-Meldrew maybe. But the Boks have 11 reasonably experienced players playing alongside the rookies. And none of the rookies are playing in combos with other rookies.
Whereas the French forward pack today was green and got dealt to (as they should) until the experience rolled off the bench.
@stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:
But the Boks have 11 reasonably experienced players playing alongside the rookies. And none of the rookies are playing in combos with other rookies.
Guess that's kinda my point. We aren't in that position with settled combos quite yet. Good progress though.
SA approach is one we should look at
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@stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:
But the Boks have 11 reasonably experienced players playing alongside the rookies. And none of the rookies are playing in combos with other rookies.
Guess that's kinda my point. We aren't in that position with settled combos quite yet. Good progress though.
SA approach is one we should look at
@Victor-Meldrew why? ABs were doing it 20 years ago with Henry, Smith and Hansen with their rest and rotation strategy. This isn’t new. NZ just haven’t been as good at exposing enough up and coming talent to test match rugby because the team has been struggling and winning has been the focus.
