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    @booboo welcome to professionalism.

    Rassie is innovative and seeks any advantage within the laws. It isn’t what I call within the spirit of the game. But that is a throwback to the amateur era.

    Winning is all that counts now. Any which way.

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    Under Law 9 Foul Play

    UNFAIR PLAY
    7. A player must not:
    a. Intentionally infringe any law of the game

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    @stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @booboo welcome to professionalism.

    Rassie is innovative and seeks any advantage within the laws. It isn’t what I call within the spirit of the game. But that is a throwback to the amateur era.

    Winning is all that counts now. Any which way.

    See above.

    He got away with that one through a reffing error.

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    @booboo sanction at a kick off is a scrum to the opposition. Rassie will have done his homework.

    It isn’t a penalty or a FK. Look how fast the SA props arrived for the scrum. They knew.

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    The ball must reach the 10-metre line.
    Sanction:The non-kicking team has the option of the kick being retaken or a scrum.

    But 12.5 applies as it's the first offence?

    When the ball is kicked:

    a. Team-mates of the kicker must be behind the ball.
    Sanction:Scrum.

    World Rugby Passport - 12 Kick-off and restart kicks
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    @stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @booboo sanction at a kick off is a scrum to the opposition. Rassie will have done his homework.

    It isn’t a penalty or a FK. Look how fast the SA props arrived for the scrum. They knew.

    If the ruling under 12.5(a) was correct I'd agree.

    But because they deliberately infringed 9.7(a) should apply.

    UNFAIR PLAY
    7. A player must not:
    a. Intentionally infringe any law of the game.
    b. Intentionally knock, place, push or throw the ball with arm or hand from
    the playing area.
    c. Do anything that may lead the match officials to consider that an opponent has committed an infringement.
    Sanction: Penalty

    Agree about the FK though: I was quoting @PN but am not sure where he got his law from(12.8(d) is quick throw)? Is that maybe a SVNS variant?

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    A smart coach would point the cynicism of the play to whoever runs the refs, to WR, and go on record in the media to pressure refs to see it their way in future. Even if you weren't involved in the game

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    @canefan said in Springboks v Italy II:

    A smart coach would point the cynicism of the play to whoever runs the refs, to WR, and go on record in the media to pressure refs to see it their way in future. Even if you weren't involved in the game

    I suspect (hope) there'll be clarification at WR level.

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    @booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @canefan said in Springboks v Italy II:

    A smart coach would point the cynicism of the play to whoever runs the refs, to WR, and go on record in the media to pressure refs to see it their way in future. Even if you weren't involved in the game

    I suspect (hope) there'll be clarification at WR level.

    At least they didn't try that shit on us

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    @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

    The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

    SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

    Here's video of the incident:

    Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

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    @African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

    The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

    SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

    Here's video of the incident:

    Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

    Opposed situational training?

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    @African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

    The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

    SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

    Here's video of the incident:

    Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

    Innovation

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    @PN said in Springboks v Italy II:

    The Copium is real.

    Lace bugs are real? No way!

    Glad I got at least one bite, surprised anyone was sensitive enough to take that rancid bait seriously.

    By the way, might wanna check the ABs v France score, I didn't suffer a loss 😉

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    @booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

    The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

    SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

    Here's video of the incident:

    Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

    Innovation

    Yep, fair play. Genius stuff that.

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    @booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:

    But because they deliberately infringed 9.7(a) should apply.

    That was exactly my thoughts, same deal as intentional knock on. Except quite a bit worse as it's so deliberate and obviously cooked up by the coach with the whole team involved.

    Gives Rassie something to cry about when they do it next time and get penalised.

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    @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

    Gives Rassie something to cry about when they do it next time and get penalised.

    Exactly that thought occurred.

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    As I mentioned above, rulings and interpretations are constantly being reviewed and clarified.

    I fully expected the appropriate branches of the WR bureaucracy to clarify the fuck out of that one.

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    @African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

    The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

    SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

    Here's video of the incident:

    Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

    What they actually achieved was giving up a free kick from the scrum and thus conceding both territory and possession compared to contesting in the Italian half. It’s brilliant stuff….

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    @Snowy I assume they were.absolutely dealing to thier scrum, otherwise I can't see why.

    Maybe Rassie thinks it is a.dumb rule and thought let's highlight it so WR change it now we used it....

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    @taniwharugby said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @Snowy I assume they were.absolutely dealing to thier scrum, otherwise I can't see why.

    Maybe Rassie thinks it is a.dumb rule and thought let's highlight it so WR change it now we used it....

    No doubt they believed their own press, but they clearly don’t watch enough rugby to know that even a dominant scrum is no guarantee of possession.

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