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QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    I believe that Taranaki had the best lineout in the NPC, so those late misfires were a surprise.

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    @Bovidae Really? Feels like their lineout has been a real weak point when I have watched.

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      Jarrad Hoeata mentioned it in a HT interview in one of the recent games.

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        slaters throwing not a strength

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          I believe that Taranaki had the best lineout in the NPC, so those late misfires were a surprise.

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          @Bovidae said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

          I believe that Taranaki had the best lineout in the NPC, so those late misfires were a surprise.

          In the earlier game this season between Naki and The Bay, the commentators were saying that Naki had a 100% lineout performance so far during the season

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            @Bovidae Really? Feels like their lineout has been a real weak point when I have watched.

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            @frugby said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

            @Bovidae Really? Feels like their lineout has been a real weak point when I have watched.

            I think they had only lost 3 all season

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            • Dan54D Dan54

              Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
              We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
              Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
              Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
              Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

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              @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

              Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head.

              Nice straw man argument. There's a difference between critiquing Jacomb's game and saying he responsible for that loss.

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                No argument , I wasn't accusing anyone here of that, merely stating that anyone who was blaming him had holes in head. You feeling a little precious or victimized this morning mate? :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                  Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
                  We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
                  Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
                  Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
                  Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

                  Yeah not sure what the Canes have seen in Poliko to offer him a 2 year extension.

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                  @Canes4life said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                  @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                  Anyone who thinks Jacomb is responsible for that loss has holes in there head. Our forwards had one of their dumb and dumber games tonight. The ball when they let it go was in almost every case shit!
                  We have had a few games this year we have done that, and have relied on Jacomb to pull us out of shit.
                  Unfortunately we had Poliki at 8, who when he is at 6 or 8 just tends to lose ball and make wrong decisions.
                  Gut that's the way it goes, some real dumb decisions made altogether, Hawkes Bay were down to 14 with halfdack off and we took kick for goal (got it), then we are the team down one we take a scrum from right in front and Poliki loses the ball picking it up off the scrum after picking it up when we had HB scrum back pedaling .
                  Still been a good season and I can relax and ebjoy rest not worrying too much who wins.

                  Yeah not sure what the Canes have seen in Poliko to offer him a 2 year extension.

                  Me neither mate, I been at all Naki home games, and it just frustrates me the number of times he loses ball in contact, often because he just doesn't place it properly. He has a bit to like, but genuinely think NPC is his ceiling.

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                  • Dan54D Dan54

                    No argument , I wasn't accusing anyone here of that, merely stating that anyone who was blaming him had holes in head. You feeling a little precious or victimized this morning mate? :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                    @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                    No argument , I wasn't accusing anyone here of that, merely stating that anyone who was blaming him had holes in head. You feeling a little precious or victimized this morning mate? :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                    By the same token you seem to be absolving him of any blame whatsoever. He has some responsibility of the result along with the other players. I dont think you could say Taranaki played to their true potential.

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                      The round robin game was a complete reversal. Two late HB tries made the score closer than it was, and Jacomb ran the show.

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                      • Dan54D Dan54

                        No argument , I wasn't accusing anyone here of that, merely stating that anyone who was blaming him had holes in head. You feeling a little precious or victimized this morning mate? :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                        @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                        No argument , I wasn't accusing anyone here of that, merely stating that anyone who was blaming him had holes in head. You feeling a little precious or victimized this morning mate? :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                        Feeling fine. I was just particularly interested in your take given that you have been leading the Jacomb bandwagon for some time.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                          No argument , I wasn't accusing anyone here of that, merely stating that anyone who was blaming him had holes in head. You feeling a little precious or victimized this morning mate? :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                          Feeling fine. I was just particularly interested in your take given that you have been leading the Jacomb bandwagon for some time.

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                          @KiwiMurph said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                          @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                          No argument , I wasn't accusing anyone here of that, merely stating that anyone who was blaming him had holes in head. You feeling a little precious or victimized this morning mate? :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                          Feeling fine. I was just particularly interested in your take given that you have been leading the Jacomb bandwagon for some time.

                          Still will be on Jacomb bandwagon, I been watching this game long enough to not write off a player when he didn't have a good game. I haven't yet seen a player be on top of game all the time, and I only on his bandwagon as I think he probably the most balanced of the uncapped 10s we got.
                          I genuinely think young Simpson from Auckland another I like the look of.

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                            @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                            No argument , I wasn't accusing anyone here of that, merely stating that anyone who was blaming him had holes in head. You feeling a little precious or victimized this morning mate? :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                            By the same token you seem to be absolving him of any blame whatsoever. He has some responsibility of the result along with the other players. I dont think you could say Taranaki played to their true potential.

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                            @brodean said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                            @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                            No argument , I wasn't accusing anyone here of that, merely stating that anyone who was blaming him had holes in head. You feeling a little precious or victimized this morning mate? :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                            By the same token you seem to be absolving him of any blame whatsoever. He has some responsibility of the result along with the other players. I dont think you could say Taranaki played to their true potential.

                            No I not absolving him from blame, the whole team takes responsiblity, but I genuine think we got ripped a new one in breakdowns, and there were some decisions that were a bit head scratching. Disappointing thing was a few of our players that normally go better didn't fire in backline, among them Crowley who I wonder if he should of been subbed earlier as he limped for a lot of the match, think Jacomb could of been better as to Daniel Rona. But forwards disappointed me most, as our usual good lineout struggled, and breakdown was messy, I believe because secondary players weren't cleaning out for a big part of game. I was worried when I heard Parete was moved to 6, much as I love his grit etc, I haven't been convinced he is one of the good thinkers in loose.

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                              @KiwiMurph said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                              @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                              No argument , I wasn't accusing anyone here of that, merely stating that anyone who was blaming him had holes in head. You feeling a little precious or victimized this morning mate? :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                              Feeling fine. I was just particularly interested in your take given that you have been leading the Jacomb bandwagon for some time.

                              Still will be on Jacomb bandwagon, I been watching this game long enough to not write off a player when he didn't have a good game. I haven't yet seen a player be on top of game all the time, and I only on his bandwagon as I think he probably the most balanced of the uncapped 10s we got.
                              I genuinely think young Simpson from Auckland another I like the look of.

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                              @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                              @KiwiMurph said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                              @Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

                              No argument , I wasn't accusing anyone here of that, merely stating that anyone who was blaming him had holes in head. You feeling a little precious or victimized this morning mate? :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                              Feeling fine. I was just particularly interested in your take given that you have been leading the Jacomb bandwagon for some time.

                              Still will be on Jacomb bandwagon, I been watching this game long enough to not write off a player when he didn't have a good game. I haven't yet seen a player be on top of game all the time, and I only on his bandwagon as I think he probably the most balanced of the uncapped 10s we got.
                              I genuinely think young Simpson from Auckland another I like the look of.

                              I dont think anyone is writing him off.

                              Though I think the desperation for some fresh blood at 10 in NZ has seen his stock rise above what he's actually produced.

                              Simpson at least has a huge boot which is rarity - hopefully he can get some better coaching than the Auckland 2025 environment - either at Auckland or elsewhere - so that he can start developing.

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