The Silver Fern

[quote name='BartMan']visit to trainier and nutritionalsit today - good stuff, more tomorrow, but old school rules. TO get big, lift heavy weights, if you can't lift heavy thanks to injury, lift sloooooow. Interesting rooster the trainer, more ink on his body than on a [B]year of Bart's school books[/B]...[/QUOTE]<br />
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Bart - you're a front rower - that doesn't say much! <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />

SixPack App is another that's out there. It's free as well.<br />
Lose It! is not a bad one for tracking your calorie budget and daily consumption. And that's free as well.

I've started playing indoor soccer over the last year. That's a good workout - and does exactly what Kirwan said.<br />
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The kids were playing at the same place (10 year old boys team) - so one of the Mums of that team decided we could do it. So we've been playing pretty constantly once a week since this time last year.<br />
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And it's great for the kids - seeing that we can all run around as well. Pretty funny to watch one of the dads take someone out with a stray elbow -and then watch his son do the same thing the next day - and realize where that came from.

Paj - this is a Jenny Craig one that might work for you....<table class="MsoNormalTable" style="" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr style=""><td style="padding: 0in;" valign="top"><table class="MsoNormalTable" style="width: 100%;" width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr style=""><td style="width: 100%; padding: 1.5pt;" width="100%"><table class="MsoNormalTable" style="" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr style=""><td style="padding: 0in;" valign="top"><br />
</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>A guy calls a company and orders their 5-day, 10 lb. Weight loss program.<br />
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The next day, there's a knock on the door and there stands before him a voluptuous, athletic,19 year old babe dressed in nothing but a pair of Nike running shoes and a sign around her neck.<br />
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She introduces herself as a representative of the weight loss company. The sign reads, 'If you can catch me, you can have me.'<br />
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Without a second thought, he takes off after her. A few miles later huffing and puffing, he finally gives up..<br />
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The same girl shows up for the next four days and the same thing happens.<br />
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On the fifth day, he weighs himself and is delighted to find he has lost 10 lbs. as promised. He calls the company and orders their 5-day/20 pound program.<br />
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The next day there's a knock at the door and there stands the most stunning, beautiful, sexy woman he has ever seen in his life.. She is wearing nothing but<br />
Reebok running shoes and a sign around her neck that reads, 'If you catch me you can have me'.<br />
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Well, he's out the door after her like a shot. This girl is in excellent shape and he does his best, but no such luck. So for the next four days, the same routine happens with him gradually getting in better and better shape.<br />
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Much to his delight on the fifth day when he weighs himself, he discovers that he has lost another 20 lbs. As promised. He decides to go for broke and calls the company to order the 7-day/50 pound program<br />
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'Are you sure?' asks the representative on the phone..... 'This is our most rigorous program.'<br />
'Absolutely,' he replies, 'I haven't felt this good in years.'<br />
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The next day there's a knock at the door; and when he opens it he finds a huge muscular guy standing there wearing nothing but pink running shoes and a sign around his neck that reads, 'If I can catch you, you're mine.'<br />
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He lost 63 pounds that week.

Yeah, but it's not like it's the carbs in white bread, candy etc. Or is it as bad as those?

So why are peas and corn not good vegetables. I find that surprising.

[quote name='Hooroo']Ha ha!! Since I have lost some weight I have stopped snoring too as the new miss's says I haven't snored once and I used to be evicted to he spare room all the time with the last couple of girlfriends.<br />
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I used to wake myself up snoring sometimes, it got that bad[/quote]<br />
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Your misses lets you keep the last couple of girlfiends in the spare room.<br />
Man, she's a keeper!<br />
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one of the exercise bikes that we originally looked at buying had the interval program on it. Didn't end up getting that bike - but it looked interesting - and the write up was good on it.<br />
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Will have to try it out.

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Mine was 8 sets of 20-30seconds (depending on fitness but choose one exact time) hard out and ten seconds break and then after 8 times you get a minutes rest.<br />
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Do that complete set twice to begin with and then 3 times once a bit fitter and then 4 times when fitter still.  But you have to give it absolutely everything for your time set and then really button off for the 10 seconds.<br />
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I saw stars ALOT when first starting it!!!  Nearly passed out once when the trainer was pughing me!! Loved it!!  It meant I was training as hard as I could<br />
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Thanks - and you were using that for cardio work? or weight loss work?

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I have only done Tabata on a bike and it is awesome mate!!!  <br />
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stationery bike - or one out in the real world?<br />
So what's the scoop. What would you recommend.<br />
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I've got a pretty good recumbant bike at home. It's got a bunch of different programs. The weight loss one, aims for you to keep your heartbeat steady (below what it would be if you're doing cardio) and it's seems good so far for losing weight.<br />
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But looking for variety.<br />
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Both mate.<br />
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MN5, You're right, it can essentially be used for any type of high intensity movement.<br />
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The key is to get your self a watch that can do two different alarms at set periods as it's just too painful to rely on keeping an eye on the time.  My watch has a bell that reminds me of GO GO GO GO GOOOOOO! and then a quiter beep, that is like "ok, you can relax a little"<br />
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Got one of those - it does interval timers, so can set a bunch of intervals on it.<br />
So what's the intervals I should set then?<br />
Equal intervals - and do one hard out, then one slow, and repeat?<br />
And how big should the intervals be?

[quote name='Hooroo']<br />
I have only done Tabata on a bike and it is awesome mate!!!  <br />
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stationery bike - or one out in the real world?<br />
So what's the scoop. What would you recommend.<br />
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I've got a pretty good recumbant bike at home. It's got a bunch of different programs. The weight loss one, aims for you to keep your heartbeat steady (below what it would be if you're doing cardio) and it's seems good so far for losing weight.<br />
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But looking for variety.

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I prefer high intensity to low intensity cardio. I do both, alternating between 100m sprints and burpees in one workout, to 6 mile jogs in another. What I've found is that the high intensity interval training provides the best base of overall aerobic fitness. Jogging long distances has become much easier as a result of interval training. I do both just to be more well-rounded, but if I had to choose between them, interval training is far more efficient and yields better overall results.<br />
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Definitely. I tried that Tabata stuff you recommended a while back and the first couple of 20 second lots are fine, after that it gets REALLY tough and you sweat bucket loads after 4 minutes or whatever it is.....that certainly appeals to me more than an hour on the treadmill ( although may do a we bit for variety as you suggested ) <br />
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I'm glad you tried the Tabata intervals. They are not for the faint of heart. And they are definitely at a totally different level than a leisurely 5 mile run. The only athletes that I know of who do Tabata intervals on a regular basis are boxers and MMA fighters, because it is truly extreme conditioning. It is the best preparation for the intensity of a 3 minute round. In addition to burpees, which I think is the hardest exercise you can use with Tabatas, you can do them on a heavy punching bag as well, punching at maximum intensity for 20 secs, followed by 20 secs of rest.<br />
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You're right--a full Tabata cycle is only 4 minutes of work. It is amazing how hard, and how efficient they are. It takes real commitment to stick with them and do them on a regular basis. They aren't pleasant.<br />
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David - Can you do the Tabata type cycle on a bike - or is it really a running thing?<br />
Been doing a lot of biking (well a lot for me!) lately to lose some weight. It's working - but am interested in mixing it up - to keep the enthusiasm.

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Top stuff Rusty, i saw a show the other day about this really huge American chick. Said theres over 2 million Americans who weigh more than 40 stone  <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /><br />
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So maybe your not so bad after all  <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /><br />
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Keep up the good work<br />
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Obesity is a real problem over here - there's a huge amount of young kids who are obese. With the cost of eating out low - and the huge plate serving size - you can see how easy it is to get that way, if you've no self control.

Swiss ball coupled with hand weights does the trick.<br />
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I've back problems - it's mostly upper back - and that just helps stretch it out and keep the problem to a minimum.

Will see if our bike goes the same way as suggested on here.<br />
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Ended up buying a pretty high end one - a SportsArt Fitness one. Pretty slick bike. Lets see how enthusiastic I am in a month or so's time - and how much I'm still using it.

First post on the Fat Busters forum.<br />
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Wife and I looking at buying an exercise bike for home.<br />
Looking for general suggestions.<br />
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She's had a knee operation (about a year ago), I've got back problems (tall - 6'2" and have collapsed disk at the top of the spine). So we think we're pretty set on getting a recumbent bike - more support that way. Looked today, but don't have a lot of opinions ourselves either way on what units are good etc - and what to look for and what not to.<br />
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Have some we're interested in - couple of Vision Fitness units and a Life Fitness.<br />
So looking for any suggestions, things to look for etc - from the esteemed bunch on here.<br />
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Looked at a number of places today - the typical big department type stores (Sears etc). After looking at those type places and the fitness specific places - we're decided on not getting a cheap one (less than $600). Just too clunky, not smooth, noisey, basically cheap.<br />
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Anyone used these ones?<br />

• Vision Fitness R2250HRT ([url="http://www.staffordfitness.net/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=777&products_id=20890"]http://www.staffordfitness.net/product_ ... s_id=20890[/url])<br />
• Vision Fitness R2600RHT ([url="http://www.staffordfitness.net/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=777&products_id=20355"]http://www.staffordfitness.net/product_ ... s_id=20355[/url])<br />
• Life Fitness R1 with Advanced workout console ([url="http://www.omnifitness.com/products/product_detail.cfm?ID=1422&Name=Life Fitness-R1 Advanced LifeCycle Recumbent"]http://www.omnifitness.com/products/pro ... 0Recumbent[/url])<br />
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  Thoughts anyone?

No, with the pea brain - it balances itself!<br />
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