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All Blacks vs Ireland

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    Tim
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    Has anyone done a deep dive on Sititi's defence? He's a brilliant young player, who will be in the team for years, his running game is excellent, he's good over the ball, and he certainly has the x-factor, but how good is his tackling? Seems like an area he can improve in. I would back him to go up a level.

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      Jordan runs brilliant lines, and is a great attacking player, but he makes a shit load of mistakes. The quick throw 45 minutes in was insane.

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        Rieko Ioane had to clean up so much shit ball, and managed to quickly recycle. Got a few hospital passes!

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        • TimT Tim

          Rieko Ioane had to clean up so much shit ball, and managed to quickly recycle. Got a few hospital passes!

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          @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

          Rieko Ioane had to clean up so much shit ball, and managed to quickly recycle. Got a few hospital passes!

          @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

          Rieko Ioane had to clean up so much shit ball, and managed to quickly recycle. Got a few hospital passes!

          People don’t appreciate just how solid Rieko is in defense and how much crap he has to deal with. Not enough appreciation

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          • K KiwiInLondon

            @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

            Rieko Ioane had to clean up so much shit ball, and managed to quickly recycle. Got a few hospital passes!

            @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

            Rieko Ioane had to clean up so much shit ball, and managed to quickly recycle. Got a few hospital passes!

            People don’t appreciate just how solid Rieko is in defense and how much crap he has to deal with. Not enough appreciation

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            @KiwiInLondon Great hit from him at 50 minutes that spilled the ball. Nice low tackle from Sititi.

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            • TimT Tim

              Has anyone done a deep dive on Sititi's defence? He's a brilliant young player, who will be in the team for years, his running game is excellent, he's good over the ball, and he certainly has the x-factor, but how good is his tackling? Seems like an area he can improve in. I would back him to go up a level.

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              Bones
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              @Tim without doing any kind of deep dive whatsoever, he seems very busy, quick back to position and often well balanced to put in a solid shoulder.

              If I was to quantify it with accurate fact, I'd say he's a lovely hybrid of Collins and Sooialo.

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                @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                Rieko Ioane had to clean up so much shit ball, and managed to quickly recycle. Got a few hospital passes!

                @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                Rieko Ioane had to clean up so much shit ball, and managed to quickly recycle. Got a few hospital passes!

                People don’t appreciate just how solid Rieko is in defense and how much crap he has to deal with. Not enough appreciation

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                @KiwiInLondon Yeah, because of our wide and flat play, he has to hit a shitload of rucks too.

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                    Tim
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                    I don't want to shit on him too much, but Cane really got smashed when he had the ball.

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                      Would be interesting to see the stats on knocks on this game compared to the average. Some very aggressive defense.

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                        Sititi is a very good link player. Best we've had for a long time.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                          @Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                          @Jet said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                          Giving it the big one , because you've executed a 50/22 while 10 points down tells you all you need to know about that mob.

                          That kick though was a thing of beauty. Jordan did nothing wrong, the idea was good but bugger me, what a response!

                          Oh come on, how many meek turnovers does this guy get away with under the guise of doing nothing wrong? It was a shit kick when we were hot on attack. Selfish play.

                          Mate, a few minutes to play, put the opposition in their own 22 for a lineout. Whatever this kid has done to your family, let it go.

                          They were under pressure, we were running hot, he did his usual schizo and only cared about him so did his cute, aimless dink ahead. Brainless play. Repro has it covered.

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                          @Bones Yeah, that was just a poor kick all round. He should have taken the ball into contact and setup another attack when we had them on the rack. The execution of the kick was poor too. Crappy play. That guy makes a lot of mistakes.

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                            @Tim without doing any kind of deep dive whatsoever, he seems very busy, quick back to position and often well balanced to put in a solid shoulder.

                            If I was to quantify it with accurate fact, I'd say he's a lovely hybrid of Collins and Sooialo.

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                            Tim
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                            @Bones In the last 20 minutes he did a lot of work getting wide on defence.

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                              13 points is a very low total for Ireland, Ioane did really well rushing up and stopping their attack.

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                                @Bones Yeah, that was just a poor kick all round. He should have taken the ball into contact and setup another attack when we had them on the rack. The execution of the kick was poor too. Crappy play. That guy makes a lot of mistakes.

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                                @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                @Bones Yeah, that was just a poor kick all round. He should have taken the ball into contact and setup another attack when we had them on the rack. The execution of the kick was poor too. Crappy play. That guy makes a lot of mistakes.

                                I just don't get the free pass he gets for (fairly frequent to be fair) miracle tries when he surely costs us more than 5 points a game from dismal or brainless play. On defence and attack.

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                                  Shit I like this new coaching group. They seem to know what they’re doing after all.
                                  Some of you guys should read back what you write during the games.

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                                    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                    Shit I like this new coaching group. They seem to know what they’re doing after all.
                                    Some of you guys should read back what you write during the games.

                                    Coaching the ABs is a results based business,

                                    Win you will be a hero , lose you will be the opposite,

                                    And It’s never been any different

                                    There was similar negativity with Henry and Hansen at times and they took us through our most successful era .

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                                    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                      Shit I like this new coaching group. They seem to know what they’re doing after all.
                                      Some of you guys should read back what you write during the games.

                                      Coaching the ABs is a results based business,

                                      Win you will be a hero , lose you will be the opposite,

                                      And It’s never been any different

                                      There was similar negativity with Henry and Hansen at times and they took us through our most successful era .

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                                      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                      Shit I like this new coaching group. They seem to know what they’re doing after all.
                                      Some of you guys should read back what you write during the games.

                                      Coaching the ABs is a results based business,

                                      Win you will be a hero , lose you will be the opposite,

                                      And It’s never been any different

                                      There was similar negativity with Henry and Hansen at times and they took us through our most successful era .

                                      It was a long time ago, but the difference being I don't recall injury being their best selector.

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                                        Don’t know if it’s been said but I was super impressed with the skipper Scott Barrett on a few levels
                                        I thought his general play was exceptional and he picked off a couple of lineouts
                                        but more importantly is growing into his captaincy making good calls when points were on offer
                                        It was also great to see Scooter standing up for fellow player , not taking a backward step when the opposition was obviously putting in some unwanted attention

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                          @Bones Yeah, that was just a poor kick all round. He should have taken the ball into contact and setup another attack when we had them on the rack. The execution of the kick was poor too. Crappy play. That guy makes a lot of mistakes.

                                          I just don't get the free pass he gets for (fairly frequent to be fair) miracle tries when he surely costs us more than 5 points a game from dismal or brainless play. On defence and attack.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                          @Bones Yeah, that was just a poor kick all round. He should have taken the ball into contact and setup another attack when we had them on the rack. The execution of the kick was poor too. Crappy play. That guy makes a lot of mistakes.

                                          I just don't get the free pass he gets for (fairly frequent to be fair) miracle tries when he surely costs us more than 5 points a game from dismal or brainless play. On defence and attack.

                                          I disagree that he costs more than he gives.

                                          His attacking lines are great, he gets himself in the right place to score tries more than anybody else - and at fullback he has more scope to do that more often. Once he's in space the blinkers are on and he doesn't look for support, and he has a tendency to kick the ball away (and call for others to kick for him) - which is fucking annoying, but hopefully that improves.

                                          To me there is a bit of a parallel to some of the McKenzie criticism. If makes a break that only he would make, then fucks it up... is that better or worse than e.g. a Harry Plummer or a Perofeta not making the break, even if they wouldn't have fucked it up if they had made it? To me it's worse, because we want to play with ambition. There's only so many chances you give of course, but if you go too conservative I think you risk discarding guys like Ma'a Nonu.

                                          You also have to look at the competition for the 15 spot, which isn't exactly red hot.

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