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  • R reprobate

    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @Tim said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    @Bones Yeah, that was just a poor kick all round. He should have taken the ball into contact and setup another attack when we had them on the rack. The execution of the kick was poor too. Crappy play. That guy makes a lot of mistakes.

    I just don't get the free pass he gets for (fairly frequent to be fair) miracle tries when he surely costs us more than 5 points a game from dismal or brainless play. On defence and attack.

    I disagree that he costs more than he gives.

    His attacking lines are great, he gets himself in the right place to score tries more than anybody else - and at fullback he has more scope to do that more often. Once he's in space the blinkers are on and he doesn't look for support, and he has a tendency to kick the ball away (and call for others to kick for him) - which is fucking annoying, but hopefully that improves.

    To me there is a bit of a parallel to some of the McKenzie criticism. If makes a break that only he would make, then fucks it up... is that better or worse than e.g. a Harry Plummer or a Perofeta not making the break, even if they wouldn't have fucked it up if they had made it? To me it's worse, because we want to play with ambition. There's only so many chances you give of course, but if you go too conservative I think you risk discarding guys like Ma'a Nonu.

    You also have to look at the competition for the 15 spot, which isn't exactly red hot.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

    You also have to look at the competition for the 15 spot, which isn't exactly red hot.

    Nodding along until I got to here. As said, if you don't select the competition then how do we know?

    We don't select Stevenson because he has poor defence, then excuse Jordan for the same.

    We don't select Love because he's too green, then excuse Jordan's shit moments being because he's growing into the role.

    Perofeta should be straight back in after injury as I'm sure Blackadder would be, but no.

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

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      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

      @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

      Ugh. If that happens Razor really is an idiot

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

        @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

        No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

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        #1463

        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

        @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

        No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

        Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

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        • canefanC canefan

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

          @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

          No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

          Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

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          Chris
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          #1464

          @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

          @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

          @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

          No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

          Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

          I don’t think it will it will weaken it,Cane is gone next year do there is a gap in that 23.
          But people have their particular dislikes of players no matter what.

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          • canefanC canefan

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

            @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

            No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

            Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

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            @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

            @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

            No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

            Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

            dont think it will weaken prop lock and halfback which is where the impact come from.
            from last game bell played 2 min,finau less than ten and perefeta not used

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

              @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

              @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

              No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

              Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

              I don’t think it will it will weaken it,Cane is gone next year do there is a gap in that 23.
              But people have their particular dislikes of players no matter what.

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              canefan
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              #1466

              @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

              @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

              @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

              @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

              No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

              Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

              I don’t think it will it will weaken it,Cane is gone next year do there is a gap in that 23.
              But people have their particular dislikes of players no matter what.

              If he plays well and justifies his selection I will be more than happy. But I see higher ceiling with Lakai off the bench. EB might be able to play Cane's role though

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              • canefanC canefan

                @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

                No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

                Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

                I don’t think it will it will weaken it,Cane is gone next year do there is a gap in that 23.
                But people have their particular dislikes of players no matter what.

                If he plays well and justifies his selection I will be more than happy. But I see higher ceiling with Lakai off the bench. EB might be able to play Cane's role though

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                Chris
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                @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

                No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

                Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

                I don’t think it will it will weaken it,Cane is gone next year do there is a gap in that 23.
                But people have their particular dislikes of players no matter what.

                If he plays well and justifies his selection I will be more than happy. But I see higher ceiling with Lakai off the bench. EB might be able to play Cane's role though

                I like Lakai as well I can see him adding some real impact at 7.

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                  @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

                  No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

                  Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

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                  nostrildamus
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                  #1468

                  @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                  @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

                  No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

                  Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

                  Interesting coincidence.

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                    https://x.com/brettruganalyst/status/1855613995090129167?s=61&t=WljeDW7IY21f5Fx-i08LZg
                    This is worth a look on X .if you can open it
                    All Black lineout defence against Ireland

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                      https://x.com/brettruganalyst/status/1855613995090129167?s=61&t=WljeDW7IY21f5Fx-i08LZg
                      This is worth a look on X .if you can open it
                      All Black lineout defence against Ireland

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                      @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                      https://x.com/brettruganalyst/status/1855613995090129167?s=61&t=WljeDW7IY21f5Fx-i08LZg
                      This is worth a look on X .if you can open it
                      All Black lineout defence against Ireland

                      Yep some really smart tactics to depower the
                      Driving maul.
                      It worked every time against Ireland

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                      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                        @Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        Shit I like this new coaching group. They seem to know what they’re doing after all.
                        Some of you guys should read back what you write during the games.

                        Coaching the ABs is a results based business,

                        Win you will be a hero , lose you will be the opposite,

                        And It’s never been any different

                        There was similar negativity with Henry and Hansen at times and they took us through our most successful era .

                        It was a long time ago, but the difference being I don't recall injury being their best selector.

                        Yeah fair , I guess I’m just saying not everyone was onboard with their appointments

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                        #1471

                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        @chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                        Shit I like this new coaching group. They seem to know what they’re doing after all.
                        Some of you guys should read back what you write during the games.

                        Coaching the ABs is a results based business,

                        Win you will be a hero , lose you will be the opposite,

                        And It’s never been any different

                        There was similar negativity with Henry and Hansen at times and they took us through our most successful era .

                        It was a long time ago, but the difference being I don't recall injury being their best selector.

                        Yeah fair , I guess I’m just saying not everyone was onboard with their appointments

                        I don't think ANYBODY has ever been "against" Razor's appointment.
                        The only thing anybody has ever been against was the wank-hype. And then the early results. (and selections)

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                          https://x.com/brettruganalyst/status/1855613995090129167?s=61&t=WljeDW7IY21f5Fx-i08LZg
                          This is worth a look on X .if you can open it
                          All Black lineout defence against Ireland

                          Yep some really smart tactics to depower the
                          Driving maul.
                          It worked every time against Ireland

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                          #1472

                          @Chris 💯 shows theres some work going on from the forwards coach which is pleasing to see
                          Loved how they dictated where Ireland had to throw its bit like setting a trap

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                            @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

                            No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

                            Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

                            I don’t think it will it will weaken it,Cane is gone next year do there is a gap in that 23.
                            But people have their particular dislikes of players no matter what.

                            If he plays well and justifies his selection I will be more than happy. But I see higher ceiling with Lakai off the bench. EB might be able to play Cane's role though

                            I like Lakai as well I can see him adding some real impact at 7.

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                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                            @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

                            No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

                            Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

                            I don’t think it will it will weaken it,Cane is gone next year do there is a gap in that 23.
                            But people have their particular dislikes of players no matter what.

                            If he plays well and justifies his selection I will be more than happy. But I see higher ceiling with Lakai off the bench. EB might be able to play Cane's role though

                            I like Lakai as well I can see him adding some real impact at 7.

                            I think he's our future there personally. I hope he gets a decent crack there next season. Huge fan of what Papali'i has done at the Blues but at international level he, Blackadder and Jacobsen are just placeholders.

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                              @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

                              No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

                              Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

                              I don’t think it will it will weaken it,Cane is gone next year do there is a gap in that 23.
                              But people have their particular dislikes of players no matter what.

                              If he plays well and justifies his selection I will be more than happy. But I see higher ceiling with Lakai off the bench. EB might be able to play Cane's role though

                              I like Lakai as well I can see him adding some real impact at 7.

                              I think he's our future there personally. I hope he gets a decent crack there next season. Huge fan of what Papali'i has done at the Blues but at international level he, Blackadder and Jacobsen are just placeholders.

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                              canefan
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                              @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              @Chris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                              @Windows97 I have this terrible feeling that Blackadder will be brought straight back into the starting lineup at 6 once fit again. I believe he has started every game he's been fit for this season...

                              No I don't reckon that will happen now,Maybe on the bench.

                              Great. Let's weaken the impact of our bench, which has suddenly become a strength without EB, and Jacobsen

                              I don’t think it will it will weaken it,Cane is gone next year do there is a gap in that 23.
                              But people have their particular dislikes of players no matter what.

                              If he plays well and justifies his selection I will be more than happy. But I see higher ceiling with Lakai off the bench. EB might be able to play Cane's role though

                              I like Lakai as well I can see him adding some real impact at 7.

                              I think he's our future there personally. I hope he gets a decent crack there next season. Huge fan of what Papali'i has done at the Blues but at international level he, Blackadder and Jacobsen are just placeholders.

                              Oh yeah, forgot about Papaaili. Amazing the difference Wallace has made. I salivate thinking how our back row might go with Lakai and Wallace back together again.

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                                @Chris 💯 shows theres some work going on from the forwards coach which is pleasing to see
                                Loved how they dictated where Ireland had to throw its bit like setting a trap

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                                @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                they dictated where Ireland had to throw

                                I'm not sure I buy that. You reckon Ireland are only calling the lineout once they're set or changing the call when they see where the defenders go? Can't say I've ever seen any team with that system.

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                                • KruseK Kruse

                                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                  @chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                  Shit I like this new coaching group. They seem to know what they’re doing after all.
                                  Some of you guys should read back what you write during the games.

                                  Coaching the ABs is a results based business,

                                  Win you will be a hero , lose you will be the opposite,

                                  And It’s never been any different

                                  There was similar negativity with Henry and Hansen at times and they took us through our most successful era .

                                  It was a long time ago, but the difference being I don't recall injury being their best selector.

                                  Yeah fair , I guess I’m just saying not everyone was onboard with their appointments

                                  I don't think ANYBODY has ever been "against" Razor's appointment.
                                  The only thing anybody has ever been against was the wank-hype. And then the early results. (and selections)

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                                  canefan
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                                  @Kruse said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                  @chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                  Shit I like this new coaching group. They seem to know what they’re doing after all.
                                  Some of you guys should read back what you write during the games.

                                  Coaching the ABs is a results based business,

                                  Win you will be a hero , lose you will be the opposite,

                                  And It’s never been any different

                                  There was similar negativity with Henry and Hansen at times and they took us through our most successful era .

                                  It was a long time ago, but the difference being I don't recall injury being their best selector.

                                  Yeah fair , I guess I’m just saying not everyone was onboard with their appointments

                                  I don't think ANYBODY has ever been "against" Razor's appointment.
                                  The only thing anybody has ever been against was the wank-hype. And then the early results. (and selections)

                                  Totally this. IIRC the general opinion was positive about him taking over. It was just when he did his best low mark Fozzie impersonation and picked a bunch of undeserving no marks that I turned on him

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                                  • S Steven Harris

                                    @Chris 💯 shows theres some work going on from the forwards coach which is pleasing to see
                                    Loved how they dictated where Ireland had to throw its bit like setting a trap

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                                    @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks vs Ireland:

                                    @Chris 💯 shows theres some work going on from the forwards coach which is pleasing to see
                                    Loved how they dictated where Ireland had to throw its bit like setting a trap

                                    Yep it was really good tactics,then they split the lifter away from the jumper so they couldn’t get any momentum.

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                                      Mattasaurus
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                                      #1478

                                      Gawd Jeff Wilson is a punishing listen on the Breakdown ( i know I am a day late but still..)

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                                        Lancaster Park
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                                        I dont recall the ref giving any penalties (maybe one but that was williams) for not rolling away, all the rest where for not releasing.
                                        I thought Ratima played really well under the circumstances at the ruck but ne needed to learn how to communicate with ref when there are irishmen just lying about at the back of the ruck impeding his access to the ball.

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                                          Lancaster Park
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                                          Also whats the new ruling about defending a high ball chase? The commentators seemed to suggest its a new tweak but could understand why we got pinged when no one obviously changed their line. Was I just blind?

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