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Blues 2025

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  • F frugby

    I’m not entirely convinced Plummer is actually much better than Bryn Gatland. If you stick Gatland at 10 in this Blues team he’d look a million bucks…

    An average 10 in an average side looks rather average. But an average 10 who does the basics well will look very good with better players around him.

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    @frugby said in Blues 2025:

    I’m not entirely convinced Plummer is actually much better than Bryn Gatland. If you stick Gatland at 10 in this Blues team he’d look a million bucks…

    An average 10 in an average side looks rather average. But an average 10 who does the basics well will look very good with better players around him.

    In fairness, you don't really rate many current Blues players at all.

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      @frugby said in Blues 2025:

      I’m not entirely convinced Plummer is actually much better than Bryn Gatland. If you stick Gatland at 10 in this Blues team he’d look a million bucks…

      An average 10 in an average side looks rather average. But an average 10 who does the basics well will look very good with better players around him.

      In fairness, you don't really rate many current Blues players at all.

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      @African-Monkey said in Blues 2025:

      @frugby said in Blues 2025:

      I’m not entirely convinced Plummer is actually much better than Bryn Gatland. If you stick Gatland at 10 in this Blues team he’d look a million bucks…

      An average 10 in an average side looks rather average. But an average 10 who does the basics well will look very good with better players around him.

      In fairness, you don't really rate many current Blues players at all.

      This wasn’t really meant to be a critique of Plummer. Probably worded poorly, my point was more if you stuck Gatland in this Blues side he’d do a similarly (good) job.

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      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

        7 Props and only 6 loosies is a small concern. Especially with Suafoa's health concerns. I imagine Christie may get a run covering 6 occasionally and Trystan Cook is sure to be in the academy/wtg. No Tito-Harris is the other surprise. Must be returning to Sevens. Reon Paul is the biggest surprise but i have liked the small highlights I've seen of him at NPC level.. I know little about Mullen. About fifth ranked Canterbury hooker called up to Super rugby off of 2 starts and 5 bench games over 2 seasons. Someone in the know must rate him. He is only 21 so has time to develop but could be on the bench in some big games..

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        @Daffy-Jaffy I’m surprised Mullan has made the Blues squad. Would’ve thought they’d be better players in blues area.
        I've watched him a few times for his club side Sydenham. He doesn’t stand out in club footy. He’s got a great physique on him for a hooker.
        I’m not sold on the Crusaders academy.
        So maybe leaving ChCh is exactly what is needed.

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          @Daffy-Jaffy I’m surprised Mullan has made the Blues squad. Would’ve thought they’d be better players in blues area.
          I've watched him a few times for his club side Sydenham. He doesn’t stand out in club footy. He’s got a great physique on him for a hooker.
          I’m not sold on the Crusaders academy.
          So maybe leaving ChCh is exactly what is needed.

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          @chchfanatic said in Blues 2025:

          @Daffy-Jaffy I’m surprised Mullan has made the Blues squad. Would’ve thought they’d be better players in blues area.
          I've watched him a few times for his club side Sydenham. He doesn’t stand out in club footy. He’s got a great physique on him for a hooker.
          I’m not sold on the Crusaders academy.
          So maybe leaving ChCh is exactly what is needed.

          @Steven-Harris said that Jason Ryan pushed for the move?

          Maybe Jason Ryan's just trying to help out his Sydenham mates? Like he did with squeezing Brodie McAlister into the ABs?

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            @Daffy-Jaffy I’m surprised Mullan has made the Blues squad. Would’ve thought they’d be better players in blues area.
            I've watched him a few times for his club side Sydenham. He doesn’t stand out in club footy. He’s got a great physique on him for a hooker.
            I’m not sold on the Crusaders academy.
            So maybe leaving ChCh is exactly what is needed.

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            @chchfanatic said in Blues 2025:

            thought they’d be better players in blues area

            The only local player that comes to mind that could have been a possibility is young Bryn Gordon from Harbour. The player I was hoping for was Taine Kolose. I thought he might have been a chance due to Cotter's and Ekland's BOP connections. It will be interesting to see how Mullen goes, at only 21 he has time to develop and learn but he is only an injury away from playing already. Cotter will bulk him up and be happy if he hits rucks, tackles, throws and scrums well. The choice of wtg hooker will be important if Mullen is not quite ready straight away.

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              @chchfanatic said in Blues 2025:

              @Daffy-Jaffy I’m surprised Mullan has made the Blues squad. Would’ve thought they’d be better players in blues area.
              I've watched him a few times for his club side Sydenham. He doesn’t stand out in club footy. He’s got a great physique on him for a hooker.
              I’m not sold on the Crusaders academy.
              So maybe leaving ChCh is exactly what is needed.

              @Steven-Harris said that Jason Ryan pushed for the move?

              Maybe Jason Ryan's just trying to help out his Sydenham mates? Like he did with squeezing Brodie McAlister into the ABs?

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              @African-Monkey Apparently he’s very highly rated by Ryan injury curtailed his progress ,
              Is a very big body with a turn of pace ,could turn out to be a very good pick up for the Blues long term

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                Answering someone's question about where is Mason Tupaea? Blues Instagram said "he’ll be around!" so I guess he is in the wtg.

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                • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                  @chchfanatic said in Blues 2025:

                  thought they’d be better players in blues area

                  The only local player that comes to mind that could have been a possibility is young Bryn Gordon from Harbour. The player I was hoping for was Taine Kolose. I thought he might have been a chance due to Cotter's and Ekland's BOP connections. It will be interesting to see how Mullen goes, at only 21 he has time to develop and learn but he is only an injury away from playing already. Cotter will bulk him up and be happy if he hits rucks, tackles, throws and scrums well. The choice of wtg hooker will be important if Mullen is not quite ready straight away.

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                  @Daffy-Jaffy Bryn Gordon is with Moana Pacifica wider squad like he was last year. He didn't get many minutes behind Shilo Klein this season who is now capped by the USA too. Perhaps Klein will be in the Blues WTG but I have a feeling he has re-signed with the San Diego Legion in the MLR

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                    So Zarn Sullivan a possibility of moving into the midfield

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                      So Zarn Sullivan a possibility of moving into the midfield

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                      @george33 said in Blues 2025:

                      So Zarn Sullivan a possibility of moving into the midfield

                      Interesting

                      His kicking is too slow at 10 but would be useful at 12.

                      A similar shape to the Blues preferred midfielders too AJ/RI and the injured Heem

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                        That would help to get the best players into the 23

                        9 Funaki/Christie
                        10 Plummer
                        11 Clarke
                        12 AJ/Sullivan
                        13 Ioane
                        14 Telea
                        15 BB/Perofeta

                        21 Funaki/Christie
                        22 AJ/Sullivan
                        23 BB/Perofeta

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          That would help to get the best players into the 23

                          9 Funaki/Christie
                          10 Plummer
                          11 Clarke
                          12 AJ/Sullivan
                          13 Ioane
                          14 Telea
                          15 BB/Perofeta

                          21 Funaki/Christie
                          22 AJ/Sullivan
                          23 BB/Perofeta

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                          @Duluth possibly playing 13, with AJ at 12, ,

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                            @Duluth possibly playing 13, with AJ at 12, ,

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                            @george33 said in Blues 2025:

                            @Duluth possibly playing 13, with AJ at 12, ,

                            Indicating Rieko to take a sabbatical after all?

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                              @george33 said in Blues 2025:

                              @Duluth possibly playing 13, with AJ at 12, ,

                              Indicating Rieko to take a sabbatical after all?

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                              @gt12 No he's there ,just another combination that could throw up some different ideas.

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                                @gt12 No he's there ,just another combination that could throw up some different ideas.

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                                @george33 must add Reiko Simpson will also be around the Blues ,

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                                  Blues academy players Leo Gordon and King Maxwell are playing on loan in Japan for Blues partner club.


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                                    Fucking best team name ever

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      Bit of depth lost at wing with Banks and Tangitau at other franchises

                                      I'll be annoyed if Lam is forced to play wing as he's the best 12 in the squad

                                      Who else covers wing? Spencer? Heem prob too slow for wing these days. Tito-Harris perhaps? That blonde chap from Northland looked useful

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2025:

                                      I'll be annoyed if Lam is forced to play wing as he's the best 12 in the squad

                                      Surely with Heem out for the season Lam is a walk up start?

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                                        Working with Lam and Sullivan in that position would be awesome. I think that might be Sullivan's best position.

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          Working with Lam and Sullivan in that position would be awesome. I think that might be Sullivan's best position.

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                                          @Kirwan said in Blues 2025:

                                          Working with Lam and Sullivan in that position would be awesome. I think that might be Sullivan's best position.

                                          What makes you say that? I think he's an out-and-out 15. Good under the high ball, a booming punt, strong as a secondary playmaker and looks good with a bit of space but not so much when he's under more pressure closer to the action...

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