All Blacks v France
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v France:
France were pretty good
They have an inordinate amount of athletic lumps knocking around.
@Jet said in All Blacks v France:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v France:
France were pretty good
They have an inordinate amount of athletic lumps knocking around.
And Colombes
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
Upside: Roigard, Lakai, Aumua
Downsides: Reece, Scott Barrett, Jordan.
I have a sneaking suspicion you are more of a Canes fan than a Crusader one.
I have a sneaking suspicion we have lost four games this year because of Robertson picking too many of his Red n'Black chums.
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France:
Upside: Roigard, Lakai, Aumua
Downsides: Reece, Scott Barrett, Jordan.
I have a sneaking suspicion you are more of a Canes fan than a Crusader one.
I have a sneaking suspicion we have lost four games this year because of Robertson picking too many of his Red n'Black chums.
Never said you were wrong!
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France better but nz not enough patience. And too many 3 pointers should have tried to take lead.
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Disappointing to lose that after so much territory and possession.
One thing we need to improve on hugely is once we score points, we invariably let the other side score next so we don’t build scoreboard pressure.
We are still a work in progress and are really looking for the 1-2% improvement to win these types of games.
We are building, we are not perfect, we are good at times, but we need to get better and be more ruthless.
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Disappointing to lose that after so much territory and possession.
One thing we need to improve on hugely is once we score points, we invariably let the other side score next so we don’t build scoreboard pressure.
We are still a work in progress and are really looking for the 1-2% improvement to win these types of games.
We are building, we are not perfect, we are good at times, but we need to get better and be more ruthless.
@DaGrubster it's noticeable how much better other teams are at kicking off than us. High, deep kicks that have our catchers under huge pressure, we don't seem to pay the same attention to that facet.
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Disappointing to lose that after so much territory and possession.
One thing we need to improve on hugely is once we score points, we invariably let the other side score next so we don’t build scoreboard pressure.
We are still a work in progress and are really looking for the 1-2% improvement to win these types of games.
We are building, we are not perfect, we are good at times, but we need to get better and be more ruthless.
@DaGrubster The French team had many fewer caps than our. We were beaten by the less experienced team. I am not sure the "we're building argument" works when other sides are building more and beating us. Disappointing.
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@nostrildamus Proctor needs work defensively? What?
DMac and Roigard should be our halves pairing. That game made it clear.
Jordan made some poor decisions too. Seemed pretty gassed.
@foobaNZ DMac seems to have really improved on this tour.
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@DaGrubster it's noticeable how much better other teams are at kicking off than us. High, deep kicks that have our catchers under huge pressure, we don't seem to pay the same attention to that facet.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:
@DaGrubster it's noticeable how much better other teams are at kicking off than us. High, deep kicks that have our catchers under huge pressure, we don't seem to pay the same attention to that facet.
It's noticeable in Super Rugby. Very few teams bother to put pressure on when kicking off. A lot of cheap exits. We aren't trained well to deal with it
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Learnings:
- Don't sub Roigard at 51 minutes if there's no need, Robertston you cock
- Don't take the three (which wasn't even a super easy kick) when you're down by 4 with 5 mins to go while dominating the set piece, Scott you dick
- Don't have Scott Barrett be captain, Robertson you wang
- Don't have Beauden Barrett take any kicks for touch, Robertson you penis. He just can't do it properly. They are so shit.
- Don't let these random neck roll calls come from a TMO, World Rugby you shafts. They are annoying as fuck and so inconsistent it isn't funny. There was a clear neck roll on A Savea shortly before the French first try
- Don't tackle with your head first into a player's knee, Samipeni you prong
- Don't let Will Jordan near a rugby ball if he's on your team, unless he scores immediately thereafter, Robertson you rod
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I hope the coaching team won't let Barrett off easily on that call to take the 3. Field position is paramount when there's only 5 minutes to go, and getting back into their half is not guaranteed especially with how poor our exits have been from kickoffs. I'm stunned that he decided to do that.
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Don’t think Reece should make the ABs again. Just not good enough at the highest level.
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So, sliding doors (climate related @nostrildamus ). Like the England Test if we were lucky to win that, we were unlucky to lose this.
(Although in both games we were playing the better rugby, until we did dumb shit.)
@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
So, sliding doors @nostrildamus . Like the England Test if we were lucky to win that, we were unlucky to lose this.
(Although in both games we were playing the better rugby, until we did dumb shit.)
yes but that is a sign of bad judgement or coaching.
The kicking, exits etc haven't consistently improved. That seems a structural, coaching or talent issue.
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@DaGrubster it's noticeable how much better other teams are at kicking off than us. High, deep kicks that have our catchers under huge pressure, we don't seem to pay the same attention to that facet.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:
@DaGrubster it's noticeable how much better other teams are at kicking off than us. High, deep kicks that have our catchers under huge pressure, we don't seem to pay the same attention to that facet.
Yes, we always seem to be under immediate pressure after we score and the other team kicks to us.
It is a major problem for this side as they are always letting teams off the hook
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Don’t think Reece should make the ABs again. Just not good enough at the highest level.
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v France:
Don’t think Reece should make the ABs again. Just not good enough at the highest level.
Need some young wingers to put their hand up next year
I suppose Leicester coming back too
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v France:
Don’t think Reece should make the ABs again. Just not good enough at the highest level.
Need some young wingers to put their hand up next year
I suppose Leicester coming back too
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v France:
Don’t think Reece should make the ABs again. Just not good enough at the highest level.
Need some young wingers to put their hand up next year
I suppose Leicester coming back too
Chay Fihaki is ready to step up.
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No YCs although they had a good look at trying to manufacture one out of nothing. So that's a good thing
BB just looks fucking clueless with good ball - Dmac looks dangerous and creative - I really do not understand the fascination with BB unless stunting our attack and giving quality possession away is a "game plan"
Tight forwards played very well. Loosies were ok, Lakai was certainly the pick of them.
Roigard looked very good in first half but appeared slower after the break.... Ratima has potential but seems to want to play like TJP for some unknown reason.
Scooter was in Refs ear nicely in first half but felt he needed to keep it up - specifically, scrums, and ruck ball being slowed down.
Felt the ref was not bad in first 40mins but was very inconsistent in 2nd half. Lets not even mention the TMO nonsense that came in.
Certainly a game that could / should have been won - and some learnings.
We need to develop depth at 10 and 15 in particular, the obsession with taking injured players on tour needs to change, and why take so many wingers and play Reece?
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Don’t think Reece should make the ABs again. Just not good enough at the highest level.
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v France:
Don’t think Reece should make the ABs again. Just not good enough at the highest level.
Unfortunately it seems Fihaki is next in line ... want a big Super season from him to prove that if he actually is.
Git some openings in the back three to my mind.
