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Italy v All Blacks

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    Lam replaced Plummer in the squad - Plummer picked up a leg injury

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      Lam replaced Plummer in the squad - Plummer picked up a leg injury

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      @KiwiMurph said in New Zealand v Italy:

      Lam replaced Plummer in the squad - Plummer picked up a leg injury

      I would like to see Lam get some burn. He can cover midfield and wing

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        You pick your best side otherwise like others who’ve underestimated Italy you could be wearing egg

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        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

          You pick your best side otherwise like others who’ve underestimated Italy you could be wearing egg

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          @MiketheSnow said in New Zealand v Italy:

          You pick your best side otherwise like others who’ve underestimated Italy you could be wearing egg

          We don't want to fall into the Fozzie trap of flooding the team with newbies. But I would like to see at least a couple of the fringe players getting a run

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          • canefanC canefan

            @MiketheSnow said in New Zealand v Italy:

            You pick your best side otherwise like others who’ve underestimated Italy you could be wearing egg

            We don't want to fall into the Fozzie trap of flooding the team with newbies. But I would like to see at least a couple of the fringe players getting a run

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            @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

            @MiketheSnow said in New Zealand v Italy:

            You pick your best side otherwise like others who’ve underestimated Italy you could be wearing egg

            We don't want to fall into the Fozzie trap of flooding the team with newbies. But I would like to see at least a couple of the fringe players getting a run

            Outside of injury they should be riding the pine desperate to get on

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              Mr Fish
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              Ethan de Groot
              Asafo Aumua
              Pasilio Tosi
              Patrick Tuipulotu
              Josh Lord
              Ardie Savea
              Sam Cane
              Peter Lakai
              Cam Roigard
              Damian McKenzie
              Caleb Clarke
              David Havili
              Anton Lienert-Brown
              Mark Tele'a
              Ruben Love

              George Bell
              Ofa Tu'ungafasi
              Fletcher Newell
              Fabian Holland
              Christian Lio-Willie
              TJ Perenara
              Stephen Perofeta
              AJ Lam

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              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                @Bones said in New Zealand v Italy:

                I bet they still ignore Proctor.

                Given he’s no longer in the squad I’d say you’re right.

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                @Billy-Tell said in New Zealand v Italy:

                @Bones said in New Zealand v Italy:

                I bet they still ignore Proctor.

                Given he’s no longer in the squad I’d say you’re right.

                Disgraceful.

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                  I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

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                  • F frugby

                    I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

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                    @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

                    Need a good hard runner, who can distribute

                    That's exactly what Lam is.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

                      Need a good hard runner, who can distribute

                      That's exactly what Lam is.

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                      @Bones said in New Zealand v Italy:

                      @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

                      Need a good hard runner, who can distribute

                      That's exactly what Lam is.

                      He did that during SR. For what it's worth....

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Bones said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        Need a good hard runner, who can distribute

                        That's exactly what Lam is.

                        He did that during SR. For what it's worth....

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                        Bones
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                        @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        @Bones said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        Need a good hard runner, who can distribute

                        That's exactly what Lam is.

                        He did that during SR. For what it's worth....

                        He did it more recently than that.

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                        • F frugby

                          I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

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                          @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

                          I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

                          Not sure it was a choice

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                            Real shame ENS got injured, he's accurate and well rounded, could go great guns at test level. Fihaki is unexplainable.

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                              Real shame ENS got injured, he's accurate and well rounded, could go great guns at test level. Fihaki is unexplainable.

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                              @Bones said in New Zealand v Italy:

                              Real shame ENS got injured, he's accurate and well rounded, could go great guns at test level. Fihaki is unexplainable.

                              Yeah he's even luckier than Havili.

                              He's still in the squad isn't he? Or will Tele'a be fit?

                              The update said Plummers injury was minor leg injury. Will Lam be retained?

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                                Ethan de Groot
                                Asafo Aumua
                                Pasilio Tosi
                                Patrick Tuipulotu
                                Josh Lord
                                Ardie Savea
                                Sam Cane
                                Peter Lakai
                                Cam Roigard
                                Damian McKenzie
                                Caleb Clarke
                                David Havili
                                Anton Lienert-Brown
                                Mark Tele'a
                                Ruben Love

                                George Bell
                                Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                                Fletcher Newell
                                Fabian Holland
                                Christian Lio-Willie
                                TJ Perenara
                                Stephen Perofeta
                                AJ Lam

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                                brodean
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                                @Mr-Fish said in New Zealand v Italy:

                                Ethan de Groot
                                Asafo Aumua
                                Pasilio Tosi
                                Patrick Tuipulotu
                                Josh Lord
                                Ardie Savea
                                Sam Cane
                                Peter Lakai
                                Cam Roigard
                                Damian McKenzie
                                Caleb Clarke
                                David Havili
                                Anton Lienert-Brown
                                Mark Tele'a
                                Ruben Love

                                George Bell
                                Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                                Fletcher Newell
                                Fabian Holland
                                Christian Lio-Willie
                                TJ Perenara
                                Stephen Perofeta
                                AJ Lam

                                The starting midfield has a bit of a tang to it.

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                                • B brodean

                                  @Mr-Fish said in New Zealand v Italy:

                                  Ethan de Groot
                                  Asafo Aumua
                                  Pasilio Tosi
                                  Patrick Tuipulotu
                                  Josh Lord
                                  Ardie Savea
                                  Sam Cane
                                  Peter Lakai
                                  Cam Roigard
                                  Damian McKenzie
                                  Caleb Clarke
                                  David Havili
                                  Anton Lienert-Brown
                                  Mark Tele'a
                                  Ruben Love

                                  George Bell
                                  Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                                  Fletcher Newell
                                  Fabian Holland
                                  Christian Lio-Willie
                                  TJ Perenara
                                  Stephen Perofeta
                                  AJ Lam

                                  The starting midfield has a bit of a tang to it.

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                                  Mr Fish
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                                  @brodean It does but it's hard to see Razor plumping for any other options given they're both part of the original EOYT squad and neither has seen significant minutes.

                                  I don't really think AJ Lam is the long-term answer either so while I'd prefer to see him get a run ahead of Havili so he can at least prove me wrong, it's not something I'll be losing sleep over.

                                  Would love to have had Billy Proctor, Quinn Tupaea or Riley Higgins in there as a better option but don't think they're with the squad.

                                  Maybe (and I'm only half joking here) Chay Fihaki?

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                                    @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

                                    I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

                                    Not sure it was a choice

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                                    frugby
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                                    @booboo said in New Zealand v Italy:

                                    @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

                                    I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

                                    Not sure it was a choice

                                    No, but that second half, I think showed how important he is to us (at least while we don’t have a gun 10)…

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                                      I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

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                                      @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

                                      I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

                                      Um are we talking about Lam's game at 12? He can run pass and tackle. One thing I haven't seen enough of to judge is his kicking.

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                                      • B brodean

                                        @Mr-Fish said in New Zealand v Italy:

                                        Ethan de Groot
                                        Asafo Aumua
                                        Pasilio Tosi
                                        Patrick Tuipulotu
                                        Josh Lord
                                        Ardie Savea
                                        Sam Cane
                                        Peter Lakai
                                        Cam Roigard
                                        Damian McKenzie
                                        Caleb Clarke
                                        David Havili
                                        Anton Lienert-Brown
                                        Mark Tele'a
                                        Ruben Love

                                        George Bell
                                        Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                                        Fletcher Newell
                                        Fabian Holland
                                        Christian Lio-Willie
                                        TJ Perenara
                                        Stephen Perofeta
                                        AJ Lam

                                        The starting midfield has a bit of a tang to it.

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                                        nostrildamus
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                                        #35

                                        @brodean said in New Zealand v Italy:

                                        The starting midfield has a bit of a tang to it.

                                        Tang? What do you mean? I thought it meant something sharp?

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

                                          I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

                                          Um are we talking about Lam's game at 12? He can run pass and tackle. One thing I haven't seen enough of to judge is his kicking.

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                                          frugby
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                                          @nostrildamus said in New Zealand v Italy:

                                          @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

                                          I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

                                          Um are we talking about Lam's game at 12? He can run pass and tackle. One thing I haven't seen enough of to judge is his kicking.

                                          Kicking a big issue I think… the other thing which we won’t know until tried also, is his running lines. Havili and ALB both struggle to carry straight up the guts at the top top level.

                                          Lam in theory should be able to do it, but it does not always play out like that

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