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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    re: Selection, i would like to see the top team roll out again and just brutalise Italy so everyone goes in to Summer feeling pretty good.

    A disjointed muddle that results in an easy scoreboard but ugly win full of tackle bag holders would not satisfy me.

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    @mariner4life my issue with the 'top team' is there is a glaring issue in the 23 jersey. In fact the only player in that spot who has added value this season was Love when he came on vs Japan and scored 2 tries.

    I know they need certain cover but there's a real opportunity to look at adding more punch from the bench in the form of Love, Lam etc.

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      @Number-10 said in New Zealand v Italy:

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      They could’ve at least timed it for 11:59pm NZT on THURSDAY 21 Nov

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        I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

          @mariner4life said in New Zealand v Italy:

          re: Selection, i would like to see the top team roll out again and just brutalise Italy so everyone goes in to Summer feeling pretty good.

          A disjointed muddle that results in an easy scoreboard but ugly win full of tackle bag holders would not satisfy me.

          I half agree. A few noobs mixed in with most of the main team would suit me. I don't want to see a repeat of Fozzie in Dunedin again, that does not one any good

          are their any realistic noobs to put in? the NZ A guys that came over don't strike me as realistic prospects except Holland.

          Pretty much the only newbie i would like to see (who is there) is a new 12, as i am sadly resigned to the fact that ALB might be cooked (or reached that point in his career where he starts or doesn't play).
          Maybe an outside back i guess. Love to 15 so Jordan can play wing, or a new wing who has actual wheels.

          Other than that it's wasting caps on guys who are miles down the ladder.

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          @mariner4life said in Italy v All Blacks:

          @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

          @mariner4life said in New Zealand v Italy:

          re: Selection, i would like to see the top team roll out again and just brutalise Italy so everyone goes in to Summer feeling pretty good.

          A disjointed muddle that results in an easy scoreboard but ugly win full of tackle bag holders would not satisfy me.

          I half agree. A few noobs mixed in with most of the main team would suit me. I don't want to see a repeat of Fozzie in Dunedin again, that does not one any good

          are their any realistic noobs to put in? the NZ A guys that came over don't strike me as realistic prospects except Holland.

          Pretty much the only newbie i would like to see (who is there) is a new 12, as i am sadly resigned to the fact that ALB might be cooked (or reached that point in his career where he starts or doesn't play).
          Maybe an outside back i guess. Love to 15 so Jordan can play wing, or a new wing who has actual wheels.

          Other than that it's wasting caps on guys who are miles down the ladder.

          Lam. We're very thin at 12.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

            @mariner4life said in New Zealand v Italy:

            re: Selection, i would like to see the top team roll out again and just brutalise Italy so everyone goes in to Summer feeling pretty good.

            A disjointed muddle that results in an easy scoreboard but ugly win full of tackle bag holders would not satisfy me.

            I half agree. A few noobs mixed in with most of the main team would suit me. I don't want to see a repeat of Fozzie in Dunedin again, that does not one any good

            are their any realistic noobs to put in? the NZ A guys that came over don't strike me as realistic prospects except Holland.

            Pretty much the only newbie i would like to see (who is there) is a new 12, as i am sadly resigned to the fact that ALB might be cooked (or reached that point in his career where he starts or doesn't play).
            Maybe an outside back i guess. Love to 15 so Jordan can play wing, or a new wing who has actual wheels.

            Other than that it's wasting caps on guys who are miles down the ladder.

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            canefan
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            #144

            @mariner4life said in Italy v All Blacks:

            @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

            @mariner4life said in New Zealand v Italy:

            re: Selection, i would like to see the top team roll out again and just brutalise Italy so everyone goes in to Summer feeling pretty good.

            A disjointed muddle that results in an easy scoreboard but ugly win full of tackle bag holders would not satisfy me.

            I half agree. A few noobs mixed in with most of the main team would suit me. I don't want to see a repeat of Fozzie in Dunedin again, that does not one any good

            are their any realistic noobs to put in? the NZ A guys that came over don't strike me as realistic prospects except Holland.

            Pretty much the only newbie i would like to see (who is there) is a new 12, as i am sadly resigned to the fact that ALB might be cooked (or reached that point in his career where he starts or doesn't play).
            Maybe an outside back i guess. Love to 15 so Jordan can play wing, or a new wing who has actual wheels.

            Other than that it's wasting caps on guys who are miles down the ladder.

            I did edit my post, clearly too late for you. Could have saved you the trouble of posting...

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            • canefanC canefan

              @mariner4life said in Italy v All Blacks:

              @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

              @mariner4life said in New Zealand v Italy:

              re: Selection, i would like to see the top team roll out again and just brutalise Italy so everyone goes in to Summer feeling pretty good.

              A disjointed muddle that results in an easy scoreboard but ugly win full of tackle bag holders would not satisfy me.

              I half agree. A few noobs mixed in with most of the main team would suit me. I don't want to see a repeat of Fozzie in Dunedin again, that does not one any good

              are their any realistic noobs to put in? the NZ A guys that came over don't strike me as realistic prospects except Holland.

              Pretty much the only newbie i would like to see (who is there) is a new 12, as i am sadly resigned to the fact that ALB might be cooked (or reached that point in his career where he starts or doesn't play).
              Maybe an outside back i guess. Love to 15 so Jordan can play wing, or a new wing who has actual wheels.

              Other than that it's wasting caps on guys who are miles down the ladder.

              I did edit my post, clearly too late for you. Could have saved you the trouble of posting...

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              @canefan said in Italy v All Blacks:

              @mariner4life said in Italy v All Blacks:

              @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

              @mariner4life said in New Zealand v Italy:

              re: Selection, i would like to see the top team roll out again and just brutalise Italy so everyone goes in to Summer feeling pretty good.

              A disjointed muddle that results in an easy scoreboard but ugly win full of tackle bag holders would not satisfy me.

              I half agree. A few noobs mixed in with most of the main team would suit me. I don't want to see a repeat of Fozzie in Dunedin again, that does not one any good

              are their any realistic noobs to put in? the NZ A guys that came over don't strike me as realistic prospects except Holland.

              Pretty much the only newbie i would like to see (who is there) is a new 12, as i am sadly resigned to the fact that ALB might be cooked (or reached that point in his career where he starts or doesn't play).
              Maybe an outside back i guess. Love to 15 so Jordan can play wing, or a new wing who has actual wheels.

              Other than that it's wasting caps on guys who are miles down the ladder.

              I did edit my post, clearly too late for you. Could have saved you the trouble of posting...

              the fuck else was i going to do? work?

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                Thought QT was coming back into some good form.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  who is Sam Cane less able than?

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                  @mariner4life said in Italy v All Blacks:

                  who is Sam Cane less able than?

                  No one. Cane killed able.

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                    #148

                    Is Narawa still with the squad?

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

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                      @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                      I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

                      Take a bow

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                      • R reprobate

                        @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        @Canes4life said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        @Landers92 said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        @Bovidae said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        Back to their preferred loose forward trio. Reece doesn't deserve to start.

                        Or be in the 23 for that matter.

                        I'd play Clarke, Love, and Jordan. But I don't expect Razor to do that either. Just a lack of imagination

                        He'll likely play Reece again. 🙄

                        yup. I rewatched the intercept try. Reece was disgracefully slow, something is wrong with him, or he's out of gas

                        Clearly fatigued - the only thing that makes sense is to go back to a specialist winger - maybe even two of them - on the bench.

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                        #150

                        @reprobate said in Italy v All Blacks:

                        @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        @Canes4life said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        @Landers92 said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        @Bovidae said in New Zealand v Italy:

                        Back to their preferred loose forward trio. Reece doesn't deserve to start.

                        Or be in the 23 for that matter.

                        I'd play Clarke, Love, and Jordan. But I don't expect Razor to do that either. Just a lack of imagination

                        He'll likely play Reece again. 🙄

                        yup. I rewatched the intercept try. Reece was disgracefully slow, something is wrong with him, or he's out of gas

                        Clearly fatigued - the only thing that makes sense is to go back to a specialist winger - maybe even two of them - on the bench.

                        Someone like Lam can cover wing and MF, as could Proctor I reckon. If Richard Kahui could win a RWC medal doing it, surely almost all of the MF players with a little gas could fill in at wing. Could have moved Rieko out there and brought another MF on. Rassie would bloody do it

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

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                          MN5
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                          @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                          I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

                          I love humour like that

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                            I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

                            I love humour like that

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                            @MN5 said in Italy v All Blacks:

                            @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                            I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

                            I love humour like that

                            I don't think they will!

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                            • boobooB booboo

                              @pakman said in New Zealand v Italy:

                              I’d quite like to see:

                              EDG/Aumua/Newell/Paddy T/Vaa’i/RD/Barrett (S)/Sititi/Roigard/BB/Lam/ALB/Jordan/Rieko/Perofeta

                              Bench T’Mighty/Bell/Tosi/Lakai/Lord/Ratima/DMac/Love

                              Barrett at 6?

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                              @booboo said in Italy v All Blacks:

                              @pakman said in New Zealand v Italy:

                              I’d quite like to see:

                              EDG/Aumua/Newell/Paddy T/Vaa’i/RD/Barrett (S)/Sititi/Roigard/BB/Lam/ALB/Jordan/Rieko/Perofeta

                              Bench T’Mighty/Bell/Tosi/Lakai/Lord/Ratima/DMac/Love

                              Barrett at 6?

                              I see it as a chance to run three locks. Word is that Vaa'i might get run at 6. If Cane back then RD or Wally for 8.

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

                                I love humour like that

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                                #154

                                @MN5 said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

                                I love humour like that

                                Like a big meaty pie, that's amore?

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  Is Narawa still with the squad?

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                                  @Tim said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                  Is Narawa still with the squad?

                                  No. He didn't travel with AB XV due to injury in NPC final.

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                                    I got oil on the loosie trio vs Italy Savea, Cane, Sititi and Lakai off the bench not that I agree with it

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                                    • M mikey07

                                      I got oil on the loosie trio vs Italy Savea, Cane, Sititi and Lakai off the bench not that I agree with it

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                                      @mikey07 Assume Finau is out, he looked bad after that collision. He seemed to slip as he went to tackle, and at the point of collision the back of his head was facing forward, and was the contact point.

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                                      • M mikey07

                                        I got oil on the loosie trio vs Italy Savea, Cane, Sititi and Lakai off the bench not that I agree with it

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                                        @mikey07 said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                        I got oil on the loosie trio vs Italy Savea, Cane, Sititi and Lakai off the bench not that I agree with it

                                        is that 8 7 6 or 6 7 8?

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @mikey07 Assume Finau is out, he looked bad after that collision. He seemed to slip as he went to tackle, and at the point of collision the back of his head was facing forward, and was the contact point.

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                                          @Tim said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                          @mikey07 Assume Finau is out, he looked bad after that collision. He seemed to slip as he went to tackle, and at the point of collision the back of his head was facing forward, and was the contact point.

                                          Confirmed on 12 day minimum stand down

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