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"LIV Rugby"?

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    African Monkey
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    Hmmm, obviously it gets laughed at now, but over time it could become a threat to the game.

    T20 cricket got laughed at originally, now look at it.

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      Yeah GL with that, it ain't tennis or golf where you only need a handful of players, and punters that support players rather than teams

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      @Machpants said in "LIV Rugby"?:

      Yeah GL with that, it ain't tennis or golf where you only need a handful of players, and punters that support players rather than teams

      im not so sure, i see more and more new fans talking about players rather than teams, we're a couple of decades into the superstar rugby player....

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        @Machpants said in "LIV Rugby"?:

        Yeah GL with that, it ain't tennis or golf where you only need a handful of players, and punters that support players rather than teams

        im not so sure, i see more and more new fans talking about players rather than teams, we're a couple of decades into the superstar rugby player....

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        @Kiwiwomble said in "LIV Rugby"?:

        @Machpants said in "LIV Rugby"?:

        Yeah GL with that, it ain't tennis or golf where you only need a handful of players, and punters that support players rather than teams

        im not so sure, i see more and more new fans talking about players rather than teams, we're a couple of decades into the superstar rugby player....

        Who are these players you speak of?

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        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

          @Kiwiwomble said in "LIV Rugby"?:

          @Machpants said in "LIV Rugby"?:

          Yeah GL with that, it ain't tennis or golf where you only need a handful of players, and punters that support players rather than teams

          im not so sure, i see more and more new fans talking about players rather than teams, we're a couple of decades into the superstar rugby player....

          Who are these players you speak of?

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          Kiwiwomble
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          @MiketheSnow not saying im one to follow a player over a team but Jonu is often mentioned as one of the first true global super star players...and yeah, ive talked to casual fans that have changed whole they follow because a player has moved

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            @MiketheSnow not saying im one to follow a player over a team but Jonu is often mentioned as one of the first true global super star players...and yeah, ive talked to casual fans that have changed whole they follow because a player has moved

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            @Kiwiwomble said in "LIV Rugby"?:

            @MiketheSnow not saying im one to follow a player over a team but Jonu is often mentioned as one of the first true global super star players...and yeah, ive talked to casual fans that have changed whole they follow because a player has moved

            It's a handful at best

            It's not like football

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            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

              @Kiwiwomble said in "LIV Rugby"?:

              @MiketheSnow not saying im one to follow a player over a team but Jonu is often mentioned as one of the first true global super star players...and yeah, ive talked to casual fans that have changed whole they follow because a player has moved

              It's a handful at best

              It's not like football

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              Kiwiwomble
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              @MiketheSnow we may know theyre not super stars....but if new fans are looking at it like they might other sports.....it would a silly to just take a "you're supporting rugby wrong" approach

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              • A African Monkey

                Hmmm, obviously it gets laughed at now, but over time it could become a threat to the game.

                T20 cricket got laughed at originally, now look at it.

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                @African-Monkey said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                Hmmm, obviously it gets laughed at now, but over time it could become a threat to the game.

                T20 cricket got laughed at originally, now look at it.

                Sure, but there aren't 360 million Americans keen on rugby to begin with who would naturally flow to a more entertaining version of the game.

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                  https://dylancleaver.substack.com/p/rebel-alliance-to-take-on-the-empire

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                    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/nov/19/rugby-union-breakaway-league-proposal?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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                      They would be better to pump some money into the MLR to get the standard up to at least the Japanese level.

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                        https://sportnation.nz/article/real-concern-rogers-warns-of-rugby-360s-poaching-threat-as-tuivasa-sheck-set

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                          https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/jun/09/premiership-r360-delusional-tnt-sports-wbd-rugby-union

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                            https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/jun/09/premiership-r360-delusional-tnt-sports-wbd-rugby-union

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                            @mikedogz What I've heard about R360.

                            Saudi money.
                            Mike Tindall is involved. The agent Mark Spoors is involved too. So too is our old friend Stephen Jones of the Sunday Times.
                            Some disgruntled NRL players will sign.
                            Some players based in England but outside the national squad will sign.
                            It might be part of the reason why France have rotated so many players this year.

                            I doubt it will get off the ground.

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                              Mark Spoors is part of Wasserman Rugby (formerly Esportif). He and his team manage several high-profile international players, including:
                              • Tadhg Furlong
                              • Ellis Genge
                              • Richie Mo’unga
                              • Roger Tuivasa‑Sheck
                              • Taniela Tupou
                              + Reiko Ioane.

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                                Have also heard Kalyn Ponga and Ryan Papenhuyzen both interested

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                                  If RTS is a big signing then it's already dead in the water.

                                  I'll be more convinced once they sign big name forwards and competent coaches.

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                                    If RTS is a big signing then it's already dead in the water.

                                    I'll be more convinced once they sign big name forwards and competent coaches.

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                                    @antipodean said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                                    If RTS is a big signing then it's already dead in the water.

                                    I'll be more convinced once they sign big name forwards and competent coaches.

                                    Yeah that's what I said in a discussion, but it was raised that might not be a relatively big contract if it's silly money floating about.

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                                      $550,000 is not exactly top end money, he could easily get that in Japan or France.

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                                      • S SBW1

                                        $550,000 is not exactly top end money, he could easily get that in Japan or France.

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                                        @SBW1 said in "LIV Rugby"?:

                                        $550,000 is not exactly top end money, he could easily get that in Japan or France.

                                        Who?

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                                          gt12
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                                          I think it's a fantastic idea.

                                          However, they'll need to associate the teams with destinations, so given the likely locations, what would be a good name for the English team? Maybe the Red Roses? For an Australian team, hmm, what fits, maybe Wallabies? In NZ, I dunno, maybe All Blacks.

                                          Then of course, they'll need to figure out how to contract in and out of those, so maybe they'll need domestic competitions to further tie fans to those teams and help bring talent through. Of course, you can just poach players but to reduce that, maybe a five year stand down when switching? Should be easy enough.

                                          Then of course they'll need to figure out what to do to make more money. Probably they'll need a tournament, but it can't be held too often, maybe every four years? And, of course, because it's American they can just dub the winning team the world champions.

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