Blues 2025
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@reprobate said in Blues 2025:
@brodean said in Blues 2025:
@reprobate said in Blues 2025:
@Duluth said in Blues 2025:
Won SR and briefly became an All Black. With the lack of genuine interest from these selectors the choice was basically made for him
If there's 50/50 selection calls the Blues have to make this year I think they should go against the guy leaving
If you make the All Blacks for the first time (and it was the first time you deserved to), and the guys ahead of you are significantly older with one of them looking well past it, but you decide to cash in and go to France immediately...
That's on Harry, not the selectors.edited: just to say that I feel a bit sick having defended the idiots.
At the end of the day most people want to be rewarded for a job well done and get paid their worth. That's clearly not happening with players like Havili and Blackadder getting special treatment off the back of little play in a losing team.
I'm talking about Plummer only. If, when rated as the 3rd best 10 in NZ, he has the attitude that he's being undervalued so much that he has no option to leave - on the back of one decent but hardly amazing Super season - I'd be surprised and disappointed.
Guys like Sotutu, even Riccitelli on the other hand - they've been absurdly under-rated by the selectors. Oh and I guess every outside back not named Fihaki too.Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ
@Nogusta said in Blues 2025:
Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ
I can't like this!
Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders? -
@Nogusta said in Blues 2025:
Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ
I can't like this!
Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders?@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Nogusta said in Blues 2025:
Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ
I can't like this!
Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders?RM and big LF spring to mind.
Without giving it much thought guys leaving is not new, to the Blues and other teams. Afoa, Faumuina, Blowers, Luatua and Piatua are examples of Blues who left with more to offer, and a couple of them may have been attributed to lack of selection as well.
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@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Nogusta said in Blues 2025:
Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ
I can't like this!
Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders?RM and big LF spring to mind.
Without giving it much thought guys leaving is not new, to the Blues and other teams. Afoa, Faumuina, Blowers, Luatua and Piatua are examples of Blues who left with more to offer, and a couple of them may have been attributed to lack of selection as well.
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@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
RM and big LF spring to mind.
I meant in 2024.
Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.
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@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
RM and big LF spring to mind.
I meant in 2024.
Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
RM and big LF spring to mind.
I meant in 2024.
Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.
Beauden Barrett went North when he still had plenty to give.

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@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
RM and big LF spring to mind.
I meant in 2024.
Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
RM and big LF spring to mind.
I meant in 2024.
Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.
No I can only think of the Blues. Oh hang on, Harmon (who I liked), but apparently his form has fallen off recently.
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@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
RM and big LF spring to mind.
I meant in 2024.
Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
RM and big LF spring to mind.
I meant in 2024.
Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.
Lima Sopo'aga
Tom Taylor of course
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@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
RM and big LF spring to mind.
I meant in 2024.
Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.
Beauden Barrett went North when he still had plenty to give.

@Canes4life said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
RM and big LF spring to mind.
I meant in 2024.
Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.
Beauden Barrett went North when he still had plenty to give.

his girlfriend went north!
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@Canes4life said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
RM and big LF spring to mind.
I meant in 2024.
Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.
Beauden Barrett went North when he still had plenty to give.

his girlfriend went north!
@nzzp said in Blues 2025:
@Canes4life said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
RM and big LF spring to mind.
I meant in 2024.
Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.
Beauden Barrett went North when he still had plenty to give.

his girlfriend went north!
If BB wanted to go back to the Canes would they still want him?
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@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Nogusta said in Blues 2025:
Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ
I can't like this!
Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders?RM and big LF spring to mind.
Without giving it much thought guys leaving is not new, to the Blues and other teams. Afoa, Faumuina, Blowers, Luatua and Piatua are examples of Blues who left with more to offer, and a couple of them may have been attributed to lack of selection as well.
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Nogusta said in Blues 2025:
Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ
I can't like this!
Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders?RM and big LF spring to mind.
Without giving it much thought guys leaving is not new, to the Blues and other teams. Afoa, Faumuina, Blowers, Luatua and Piatua are examples of Blues who left with more to offer, and a couple of them may have been attributed to lack of selection as well.
Those two didn't leave because the coaches are retards who wont select them, they left to increase their bank balances.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Nogusta said in Blues 2025:
Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ
I can't like this!
Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders?RM and big LF spring to mind.
Without giving it much thought guys leaving is not new, to the Blues and other teams. Afoa, Faumuina, Blowers, Luatua and Piatua are examples of Blues who left with more to offer, and a couple of them may have been attributed to lack of selection as well.
Those two didn't leave because the coaches are retards who wont select them, they left to increase their bank balances.
@Nepia said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Nogusta said in Blues 2025:
Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ
I can't like this!
Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders?RM and big LF spring to mind.
Without giving it much thought guys leaving is not new, to the Blues and other teams. Afoa, Faumuina, Blowers, Luatua and Piatua are examples of Blues who left with more to offer, and a couple of them may have been attributed to lack of selection as well.
Those two didn't leave because the coaches are retards who wont select them, they left to increase their bank balances.
Didn't try to claim otherwise.
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@Nepia said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Nogusta said in Blues 2025:
Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ
I can't like this!
Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders?RM and big LF spring to mind.
Without giving it much thought guys leaving is not new, to the Blues and other teams. Afoa, Faumuina, Blowers, Luatua and Piatua are examples of Blues who left with more to offer, and a couple of them may have been attributed to lack of selection as well.
Those two didn't leave because the coaches are retards who wont select them, they left to increase their bank balances.
Didn't try to claim otherwise.
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@Nepia said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Nogusta said in Blues 2025:
Hoskins has advised the Blues that 2025 season will be his last in NZ
I can't like this!
Have the Crusaders lost anyone overseas still young enough to be serious AB contenders?RM and big LF spring to mind.
Without giving it much thought guys leaving is not new, to the Blues and other teams. Afoa, Faumuina, Blowers, Luatua and Piatua are examples of Blues who left with more to offer, and a couple of them may have been attributed to lack of selection as well.
Those two didn't leave because the coaches are retards who wont select them, they left to increase their bank balances.
Didn't try to claim otherwise.
I was just pointing out the main difference between those two and Sotutu.
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@nzzp said in Blues 2025:
@Canes4life said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
RM and big LF spring to mind.
I meant in 2024.
Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.
Beauden Barrett went North when he still had plenty to give.

his girlfriend went north!
If BB wanted to go back to the Canes would they still want him?
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@nzzp said in Blues 2025:
@Canes4life said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
@nostrildamus said in Blues 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in Blues 2025:
RM and big LF spring to mind.
I meant in 2024.
Not being a smart arse, but have the Chiefs, Hurricanes and the Highlanders? I really can't recall.
Beauden Barrett went North when he still had plenty to give.

his girlfriend went north!
If BB wanted to go back to the Canes would they still want him?
Hell yes.
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I hope we don't have BB at 10. I don't see us winning another title with him in that role. I'd rather it be Plummer or Perofeta.
@brodean said in Blues 2025:
I hope we don't have BB at 10. I don't see us winning another title with him in that role. I'd rather it be Plummer or Perofeta.
Plummer gets the 10 spot for me. Barrett and Perofeta can compete for the 15 jersey.
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@brodean said in Blues 2025:
I hope we don't have BB at 10. I don't see us winning another title with him in that role. I'd rather it be Plummer or Perofeta.
Plummer gets the 10 spot for me. Barrett and Perofeta can compete for the 15 jersey.
@African-Monkey said in Blues 2025:
@brodean said in Blues 2025:
I hope we don't have BB at 10. I don't see us winning another title with him in that role. I'd rather it be Plummer or Perofeta.
Plummer gets the 10 spot for me. Barrett and Perofeta can compete for the 15 jersey.
Yeah it will be interesting to see which way they go. As someone wondered above, maybe the 50/50 selection calls should go in favour of the one staying? From an AB perspective I am almost leaning towards wanting to see Perofeta given an extended run.
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Can't blame Plummer or Sotutu for leaving.
If the ABs weren't going to pick either this year they weren't getting a look in under this coaching set up.
I'm just glad we won a title. I suspect 2025 will not be so good for the Blues.
@KiwiMurph said in Blues 2025:
Can't blame Plummer or Sotutu for leaving.
If the ABs weren't going to pick either this year they weren't getting a look in under this coaching set up.
I'm just glad we won a title. I suspect 2025 will not be so good for the Blues.
They're still there for 2025. For next year, it's only Akira Ioane that needs replacing.
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Cotter re-signs -
“The season being dynamic and demanding there will be opportunity around game time. Harry did an outstanding job last year. Beauden is coming back he’s conscious he has to work his way back in – it’s not going to be given to him.“Stephen has stepped in at 10 as well. Zarn will play multiple positions – he could be in the midfield.”