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Italy v All Blacks

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    The NZ work at the breakdown is poor. Beauden Barrett is dreadful at 10. The All Blacks aren't really reacting to what the opposition are doing.

    The front three are providing a decent platform in the engine room though.

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    • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

      @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

      @KiwiMurph said in Italy v All Blacks:

      @sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:

      Let's be honest, how many of these current All Blacks are either the best player or the second best player in their position in the world?

      Not many.

      Funny how with Schmidt as coach all of a sudden a number of Wallabies are in the conversation.....

      Funny how with Schmidt as coach all of a sudden a number of Foster era All Blacks looked better.

      Shame he didn’t want to be part of this group

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      #622

      @Darth-Sader said in Italy v All Blacks:

      Funny how with Schmidt as coach all of a sudden a number of Foster era All Blacks looked better.

      Shame he didn’t want to be part of this group

      There was some politics or personality issues going on, perhaps,

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      • TordahT Offline
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        Italy are motivated but a bit over eager. Will fatigue a lot and are shit with the ball. ABs are just shit and Robertson has been a very, very bad boy.

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        • frugbyF frugby

          @KiwiMurph said in Italy v All Blacks:

          @sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:

          Let's be honest, how many of these current All Blacks are either the best player or the second best player in their position in the world?

          Not many.

          Funny how with Schmidt as coach all of a sudden a number of Wallabies are in the conversation.....

          This narrative from Blues fans that Robertson is the problem is weird. Schmidt was apart of the All Blacks coaching team under Foster, which had many of the same issues.

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          nostrildamus
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          #624

          @frugby said in Italy v All Blacks:

          This narrative from Blues fans that Robertson is the problem is weird. Schmidt was apart of the All Blacks coaching team under Foster, which had many of the same issues.

          I am sure a few would be generous and point at Ryan as well.

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          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

            @Darth-Sader said in Italy v All Blacks:

            Funny how with Schmidt as coach all of a sudden a number of Foster era All Blacks looked better.

            Shame he didn’t want to be part of this group

            There was some politics or personality issues going on, perhaps,

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            #625

            @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

            @Darth-Sader said in Italy v All Blacks:

            Funny how with Schmidt as coach all of a sudden a number of Foster era All Blacks looked better.

            Shame he didn’t want to be part of this group

            There was some politics or personality issues going on, perhaps,

            My understanding is he met with Razor and decided he didn’t want to work with him. It’s a shame as I think the mix would have given us some good balance.

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            • frugbyF frugby

              @KiwiMurph said in Italy v All Blacks:

              @sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:

              Let's be honest, how many of these current All Blacks are either the best player or the second best player in their position in the world?

              Not many.

              Funny how with Schmidt as coach all of a sudden a number of Wallabies are in the conversation.....

              This narrative from Blues fans that Robertson is the problem is weird. Schmidt was apart of the All Blacks coaching team under Foster, which had many of the same issues.

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              KiwiMurph
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              #626

              @frugby said in Italy v All Blacks:

              @KiwiMurph said in Italy v All Blacks:

              @sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:

              Let's be honest, how many of these current All Blacks are either the best player or the second best player in their position in the world?

              Not many.

              Funny how with Schmidt as coach all of a sudden a number of Wallabies are in the conversation.....

              This narrative from Blues fans that Robertson is the problem is weird. Schmidt was apart of the All Blacks coaching team under Foster, which had many of the same issues.

              But we heard for 4 years that Razor was the one to fix everything?

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              • menceyM Offline
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                #627

                That was shit. Time to seriously get rid of the dead wood for next year. That was fucking embarrassing.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  The NZ work at the breakdown is poor. Beauden Barrett is dreadful at 10. The All Blacks aren't really reacting to what the opposition are doing.

                  The front three are providing a decent platform in the engine room though.

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                  nostrildamus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #628

                  @sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:

                  The NZ work at the breakdown is poor. Beauden Barrett is dreadful at 10. The All Blacks aren't really reacting to what the opposition are doing.

                  The front three are providing a decent platform in the engine room though.

                  They have been bloody good nearly all tour, and I wonder why we have seldom been able to capitalize on our strong set piece?

                  Kicking, passing,and tactics perhaps.

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                    sparky
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                    #629

                    Amid the mediocrity on display in Black, Wallace Sititi has been yet again a shining light. So much to like about his game.

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                    • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

                      @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                      @Darth-Sader said in Italy v All Blacks:

                      Funny how with Schmidt as coach all of a sudden a number of Foster era All Blacks looked better.

                      Shame he didn’t want to be part of this group

                      There was some politics or personality issues going on, perhaps,

                      My understanding is he met with Razor and decided he didn’t want to work with him. It’s a shame as I think the mix would have given us some good balance.

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                      #630

                      @Darth-Sader said in Italy v All Blacks:

                      @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                      @Darth-Sader said in Italy v All Blacks:

                      Funny how with Schmidt as coach all of a sudden a number of Foster era All Blacks looked better.

                      Shame he didn’t want to be part of this group

                      There was some politics or personality issues going on, perhaps,

                      My understanding is he met with Razor and decided he didn’t want to work with him. It’s a shame as I think the mix would have given us some good balance.

                      A good coach combined with someone who has no idea? I imagine so.

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Italy v All Blacks:

                        @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                        @No-Quarter said in Italy v All Blacks:

                        We have too much talent for Italy, but man we are such a poorly selected and coached side right now. Surf Jesus has turned out to be a poor man's Fozzie but also with a strong bias to his own region.

                        Steady on.

                        You are going to defend Foster on one freak game?
                        Surf Jesus wept.

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                        #631

                        @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Italy v All Blacks:

                        @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                        @No-Quarter said in Italy v All Blacks:

                        We have too much talent for Italy, but man we are such a poorly selected and coached side right now. Surf Jesus has turned out to be a poor man's Fozzie but also with a strong bias to his own region.

                        Steady on.

                        You are going to defend Foster on one freak game?
                        Surf Jesus wept.

                        No. Just pointing out that Robertson's arguably the most over-hyped AB coach in my lifetime.

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                          Sky Sport's HT analysis consists of pundits trying to workout the rules. FMD, this is nearly as bad as having to watch the game itself.

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                          • menceyM mencey

                            That was shit. Time to seriously get rid of the dead wood for next year. That was fucking embarrassing.

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                            #633

                            @mencey There's four or five players out there in the first half that I think we can do without next year.

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                            • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

                              @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                              @Darth-Sader said in Italy v All Blacks:

                              Funny how with Schmidt as coach all of a sudden a number of Foster era All Blacks looked better.

                              Shame he didn’t want to be part of this group

                              There was some politics or personality issues going on, perhaps,

                              My understanding is he met with Razor and decided he didn’t want to work with him. It’s a shame as I think the mix would have given us some good balance.

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                              nostrildamus
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                              #634

                              @Darth-Sader said in Italy v All Blacks:

                              My understanding is he met with Razor and decided he didn’t want to work with him. It’s a shame as I think the mix would have given us some good balance.

                              Yeah I think Robertson worked really well with O'Gara and does well with a different style/approach coach to work with. Perhaps Schmidt thought there was too much ego, I don't know, but we lost a good, bold, coach.

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                                #635

                                The Jordan hate is beyond idiotic

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  @Darth-Sader said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                  My understanding is he met with Razor and decided he didn’t want to work with him. It’s a shame as I think the mix would have given us some good balance.

                                  Yeah I think Robertson worked really well with O'Gara and does well with a different style/approach coach to work with. Perhaps Schmidt thought there was too much ego, I don't know, but we lost a good, bold, coach.

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                                  Darth Sader
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                                  #636

                                  @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                  @Darth-Sader said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                  My understanding is he met with Razor and decided he didn’t want to work with him. It’s a shame as I think the mix would have given us some good balance.

                                  Yeah I think Robertson worked really well with O'Gara and does well with a different style/approach coach to work with. Perhaps Schmidt thought there was too much ego, I don't know, but we lost a good, bold, coach.

                                  Chalk and cheese would be my take

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    @mencey There's four or five players out there in the first half that I think we can do without next year.

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                                    @sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                    @mencey There's four or five players out there in the first half that I think we can do without next year.

                                    Names? Some of the ones roasted on here have scored tries so without being able to see the game it is hard to get a good handle on that. BB seems obvious from the comments.

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      Amid the mediocrity on display in Black, Wallace Sititi has been yet again a shining light. So much to like about his game.

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                                      @sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                      Amid the mediocrity on display in Black, Wallace Sititi has been yet again a shining light. So much to like about his game.

                                      Been watching him around the ruck - some really intelligent stuff.

                                      Good thing Robertson was forced to pick him.....

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                        Amid the mediocrity on display in Black, Wallace Sititi has been yet again a shining light. So much to like about his game.

                                        Been watching him around the ruck - some really intelligent stuff.

                                        Good thing Robertson was forced to pick him.....

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                                        #639

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                        @sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                        Amid the mediocrity on display in Black, Wallace Sititi has been yet again a shining light. So much to like about his game.

                                        Been watching him around the ruck - some really intelligent stuff.

                                        Good thing Robertson was forced to pick him.....

                                        He’ll have to fight for his spot once Ethan is fit though

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @sparky said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                          The NZ work at the breakdown is poor. Beauden Barrett is dreadful at 10. The All Blacks aren't really reacting to what the opposition are doing.

                                          The front three are providing a decent platform in the engine room though.

                                          They have been bloody good nearly all tour, and I wonder why we have seldom been able to capitalize on our strong set piece?

                                          Kicking, passing,and tactics perhaps.

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                                          #640

                                          @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                          They have been bloody good nearly all tour, and I wonder why we have seldom been able to capitalize on our strong set piece?

                                          Coaching.

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