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  • barbarianB Offline
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    #189

    Nix just shows how much coaching matters to a young QB. He's set up to succeed with Payton, much more so than his QB classmates. And after a few early bumps he's thriving, he looked great today.

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      Darnold also showed this week he can score not just through Jefferson

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        Final nail in the 49ers season today.

        They are in a really weird spot now - Deebo looks completely washed, they are going to be forced to overpay Purdy and Shanahan shows no signs of ever being the coach who wins 49ers a Super Bowl.

        It won't happen but there's a real argument they blow up the whole regime and start again.

        The alternative is this just drags out for 2-3 more years and then do it anyway.

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        @KiwiMurph

        yeah deebo, wonder if the long snapper is guna have a word to him lol!

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          #192

          on the field the cowboys are a shit show, which I absolutely love!

          but i have to give it to jerry jones off the field
          even with a shit onfield record he has not only maintained the corporate value of the cowboys but increased it
          $ 11 billion franchise value for cowboys at the mo, thats the most of any sports franchise in the world
          he is also more involved with league business than any other owner, and the league is going gang busters as well

          josh allen . . . my favorite player right now . . . of any football code . . . awesome run

          and our boy taysom hill . . . had a blinder or what!

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          • mariner4lifeM Offline
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            couple of guys played yesterday that sort of illustrate that regular season wins are not a QB stat.

            For a few years people have tried to claim Justin Herbert isn't amazing because the Chargers invariably stink. This wrong because he's a fucking baller. Now the Chargers have a decent coach and an improving defense, the Chargers are a wildcard team, and suddenly Herbert is a good QB. Bullshit, he's always been amazing, he throws it as well as anyone in the league, absolute cannon for an arm.

            Joe Burrow is having an MVP level season, and yet the Bengals are 4-7. Through those 11 games, his numbers are 3,028 yards, 27 touchdowns and 5 interceptions.
            Those kind of numbers through 11 games have only been thrown up by Brady (twice), Rodgers (twice) Mahomes and Brees. On every occasion their teams finished the season no worse than 13-3. The Bengals defense stinks.

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              So the Jets fired their GM this week (on a bye), not a surprise and there's been lots of speculation that he'd already been sidelined based on how the last few weeks have played out. However, now he's officially out the leaks are starting. Most are pretty typical - owner getting way too involved at way too low a level (supposedly insisting that one of the starting safeties be benched). The craziest one in that the owners son is actually the source of all this stuff. He's 17.

              On the one hand, there are only 32 GM roles in the NFL and every team that has a vacancy will have issues (if they didn't they wouldn't be hiring). On the other hand, GMs almost never get a second shot, so landing in the wrong spot is a career killer. Ownership is one of the most important things that potential GMs will consider. I suspect that this all means they're going to struggle to find a decent GM and therefore there will be another decade in purgatory.

              Even more insane are the rumours that Rex Ryan wants to come back to coach the Jets. Out of the league for a decade and a disaster both in his last few years at the Jets and his last HC role at the Bills. Sounds like something they'd do.

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                #195

                Giants released Daniel Jones. And look, they still suck.

                Carolina had a crack at the Chiefs, but gave Mahomes a minute 46 to get a field goal, so you know what happened.
                The Cowboys beating the Commanders you could call the surprise of the weekend.

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                • barbarianB Offline
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                  The Texans loss is a big one. They just looked limp and Stroud missed a few targets at crucial times late.

                  They will still win the division but they don't look up to Superbowl standard. The Lions on the other hand continue to look dominant, clearly the best team at the moment.

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                    oh yeah, i did raise my eyebrows at that one, and i saw a couple of the Stroud misses on the gram and they were awful.
                    Yes they'll make playoffs but that's mainly because the AFCS sucks.

                    Denver currently making hard work of the Raiders isn't making my day.

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                      Raiders aren't horrible. Take a win however you can get it.

                      Cards looking insipid against Seattle. I thought they were really building nicely but this is a step back.

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                      • barbarianB barbarian

                        Raiders aren't horrible. Take a win however you can get it.

                        Cards looking insipid against Seattle. I thought they were really building nicely but this is a step back.

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                        @barbarian said in NFL 2024:

                        Raiders aren't horrible. Take a win however you can get it.

                        i haven't had any expectations around Denver since old man Peyton was doing just enough to let our defence win us a SB. So no, i will not take the win, i want to be good!

                        Not least of all because now that the Chargers have a real coach, even getting a wildcard spot out of our division is a shitfight.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @barbarian said in NFL 2024:

                          Raiders aren't horrible. Take a win however you can get it.

                          i haven't had any expectations around Denver since old man Peyton was doing just enough to let our defence win us a SB. So no, i will not take the win, i want to be good!

                          Not least of all because now that the Chargers have a real coach, even getting a wildcard spot out of our division is a shitfight.

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                          @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

                          @barbarian said in NFL 2024:

                          Raiders aren't horrible. Take a win however you can get it.

                          i haven't had any expectations around Denver since old man Peyton was doing just enough to let our defence win us a SB. So no, i will not take the win, i want to be good!

                          Not least of all because now that the Chargers have a real coach, even getting a wildcard spot out of our division is a shitfight.

                          Yeah I get that, I wasn't trying to be condescending. Have watched a few Raiders games, they hang in the fight well, good teams have struggled with them.

                          Denver look good. Nix is a genuine starter. Feel like the run game is still a bit stagnant but that can be fixed. Draw isn't easy but they are all winnable games. Good coach too, which helps... You feeling optimistic?

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                          • barbarianB barbarian

                            @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

                            @barbarian said in NFL 2024:

                            Raiders aren't horrible. Take a win however you can get it.

                            i haven't had any expectations around Denver since old man Peyton was doing just enough to let our defence win us a SB. So no, i will not take the win, i want to be good!

                            Not least of all because now that the Chargers have a real coach, even getting a wildcard spot out of our division is a shitfight.

                            Yeah I get that, I wasn't trying to be condescending. Have watched a few Raiders games, they hang in the fight well, good teams have struggled with them.

                            Denver look good. Nix is a genuine starter. Feel like the run game is still a bit stagnant but that can be fixed. Draw isn't easy but they are all winnable games. Good coach too, which helps... You feeling optimistic?

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                            @barbarian said in NFL 2024:

                            @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

                            @barbarian said in NFL 2024:

                            Raiders aren't horrible. Take a win however you can get it.

                            i haven't had any expectations around Denver since old man Peyton was doing just enough to let our defence win us a SB. So no, i will not take the win, i want to be good!

                            Not least of all because now that the Chargers have a real coach, even getting a wildcard spot out of our division is a shitfight.

                            Yeah I get that, I wasn't trying to be condescending. Have watched a few Raiders games, they hang in the fight well, good teams have struggled with them.

                            Denver look good. Nix is a genuine starter. Feel like the run game is still a bit stagnant but that can be fixed. Draw isn't easy but they are all winnable games. Good coach too, which helps... You feeling optimistic?

                            for the future? yes. Especially considering this was supposed to be the shit year we we just ate our cap hits from Wilson.
                            We know Payton can coach. We look like we have a good enough QB. Our defense has been bloody good basically since that Miami massacre last year.

                            It's just being in our Division sucks. The fucking Chiefs are inevitable. The Chargers are rising. And the Raiders are the toughest 2-9 team around (Crosby is an absolute menace).

                            We are in a far better position than most teams in the league.

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                              The next two games are absolute "must wins".
                              Then it's try to beat the Chargers, and hope the Bengals have packed everyone away for the season.

                              And that's just to try and get a Wildcard spot!

                              oh, wait. it's 3 WC spots now aye? Okay then yes we should, barring a disaster, make the first week of playoffs

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                                The NFC West is a total joke

                                49ers are a tyre fire and are still only 1 game out of the division (not accounting for tie breaks)

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                                  Yeah that's bizarre considering how strong that division has been in previous years.

                                  And the AFC West looks wholly different now the Chargers and Broncos have competent coaching. If Belichik goes to the Raiders then it will get very interesting indeed.

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                                  • barbarianB barbarian

                                    Yeah that's bizarre considering how strong that division has been in previous years.

                                    And the AFC West looks wholly different now the Chargers and Broncos have competent coaching. If Belichik goes to the Raiders then it will get very interesting indeed.

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                                    @barbarian said in NFL 2024:

                                    If Belichik goes to the Raiders then it will get very interesting indeed.

                                    oh absolutely FML

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                                      The ‘luck’ the Chiefs have had this season…. Let’s hope it runs out before January.

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                                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                        The ‘luck’ the Chiefs have had this season…. Let’s hope it runs out before January.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in NFL 2024:

                                        The ‘luck’ the Chiefs have had this season…. Let’s hope it runs out before January.

                                        they may heat up and start playing of course. Kelce has been super quiet - wonder if they are keeping him fresh for a late season run... or if he's just cooked.

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          The next two games are absolute "must wins".
                                          Then it's try to beat the Chargers, and hope the Bengals have packed everyone away for the season.

                                          And that's just to try and get a Wildcard spot!

                                          oh, wait. it's 3 WC spots now aye? Okay then yes we should, barring a disaster, make the first week of playoffs

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                                          @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

                                          hope the Bengals have packed everyone away for the season.

                                          they had a sweet run home, except playing the Steelers twice. Some of the Cowboys, Titans, Browns, Broncos started to play!

                                          I think they are probably done, but ya never know. The loss to the Pats early in the season killed them.

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