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All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch

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    @Rocky-Rockbottom said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:

    Fekitoa isn't the answer at 13. Problem is that there aren't too many alternatives.

    Stuck out a bit as somehow just not quite up to the level of the blokes around him.

    And yet, at Super level has done some amazing shit.

    Guys like Nonu were better in black than they were in any other colour. Not everyone can do that I guess.

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      Much better second 40 and a good win in the end. Thought Gardener had one of his dhitter games. A few poor calls but still much better than most refs. Surprised they didnt go upstairs for Ardies try. I think he might have been about to when BB was lining up the kick as the replay was on. Then the replay cut off quickly. Well done producers. Would have liked another slow mo look at TJs non try. Though the ball may have just touched the ingoal a frame before the line.

      Ardie had a fairly good game. A couple of good carries. Especially leading to the Ben Smith try. How many tries has Smith scored now. Seems to consistently get over the line.

      J Savea also pretty good. A few strong runs and a decent finish for his try.

      Fekitoa up and down. Bloody frustrating to watch. Crotty decent but man he seems to get injured a lot.

      Hope Kaino isn't too badly injured.

      Great to see the scrum go so well. Has been our lineout dominating lately.

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        @Rocky-Rockbottom said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:

        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:

        Fekitoa isn't the answer at 13. Problem is that there aren't too many alternatives.

        Stuck out a bit as somehow just not quite up to the level of the blokes around him.

        I'm hoping that with Moala back to fitness, we'll see the Crotty-Moala combo again. That's the combo I liked most during the June series.

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        • mimicM mimic

          The All Blacks are lucky they're not playing England.. England would've exposed their weaknesses

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          @mimic said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:

          The All Blacks are lucky they're not playing England.. England would've exposed their weaknesses

          Funny you should say that. I was thinking given the absolute shittiness of the opposition so far, Italy might yet give them a game.

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          • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

            Another thing.

            Fekitoa isn't the answer at 13. Problem is that there aren't too many alternatives.

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            @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:

            Another thing.

            Fekitoa isn't the answer at 13. Problem is that there aren't too many alternatives.

            Moala or ALB at 12 with Crotty 13 for now.

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            • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

              Another thing.

              Fekitoa isn't the answer at 13. Problem is that there aren't too many alternatives.

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              @Rancid-Schnitzel Once Moala gets fit he could come in. I think he's a better player than Fekitoa in every aspect, the problem for him though is that there is no real reason for Hansen to change a winning formula so I don't expect to see Fekitoa out of the centre position anytime soon.

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                I'd like to see ALB off the bench for a wee while longer while he hones the raw talent that he has. Fekitoa is too often invisible or making stupid errors at this level for my liking, but I guess short term, and as long as Moala is out, he is it.

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                  as soon as strauss went off their set piece was fucked and it all looked a bit too easy - the saffas were looking decent before that. then their lineout went to shit and crockett smashed their scrum, may have been angling in but got away with it if so. coles was really good. ardie did a few good things, but also looked a bit lightweight at times. dagg good again, very nice making of space for todd down the sideline. as usual the smiths and the locks were excellent. out of character bad miss from kaino for the habana try, but he was good as usual other than that.
                  i've had enough of teams who are well behind on the scoreboard fucking about wasting time, and kicking ball away. have a go ya fucking pussies.

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                    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:

                    Another thing.

                    Fekitoa isn't the answer at 13. Problem is that there aren't too many alternatives.

                    Moala or ALB at 12 with Crotty 13 for now.

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                    @hydro11 Crotty at 12 Moala at 13. Looked great Wales 3rd test in Dunedin.

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                      Looks like Hansen and co know what they are talking about -Ardie needs to put on a few more kgs to warrant a starting role.

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                        One thing I want to see is that they keep ball in hand during the last play of the match, and carefully drive for a try. Its useful practice. Remember the come from behind win against Ireland.

                        Both the last 2 weeks, they played a bit in the last minute, then kicked the ball away. A bit frustrating. One of you, give Hansen a call, could you?

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          ALB on for the injured Crotty? Anyone noticed that?

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                          @Stargazer He is injured alot so it is not surprising.

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                            Agree with sentiments that we need to play England to see how good we are because we are smashing everyone else, Ardie needs a little more bulk although he has other intangibles. Bones that grubber kick from Ardie was pretty sweet I think considering the space he was in. If Fekitoa caught it it was on. Crotty was average and if he was Toeava the fern would have been crowing about him having tits for hands. That forward pass was awful but the Cantabs have been good at perfecting it and getting away with it. He is injured often. Because Barrett has been so dynamic he really has only to be a role player. The midfield is still not settled. I am not a Fekitoa fan but he tackles well, very well, and with the space he had really did not do much wrong. Winning by large margins does get boring. Was it a home town decision to bring on Todd because Squire was on the bench right? If Kaino is injured will this mean Squire will get a start or since we have won this thing do we start to blood the inevitable in Ioane?

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                              Agree with sentiments that we need to play England to see how good we are because we are smashing everyone else, Ardie needs a little more bulk although he has other intangibles. Bones that grubber kick from Ardie was pretty sweet I think considering the space he was in. If Fekitoa caught it it was on. Crotty was average and if he was Toeava the fern would have been crowing about him having tits for hands. That forward pass was awful but the Cantabs have been good at perfecting it and getting away with it. He is injured often. Because Barrett has been so dynamic he really has only to be a role player. The midfield is still not settled. I am not a Fekitoa fan but he tackles well, very well, and with the space he had really did not do much wrong. Winning by large margins does get boring. Was it a home town decision to bring on Todd because Squire was on the bench right? If Kaino is injured will this mean Squire will get a start or since we have won this thing do we start to blood the inevitable in Ioane?

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                              @broughie Squire wasn't in the team. It was Romano and Todd on the bench.

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                                  @broughie Squire wasn't in the team. It was Romano and Todd on the bench.

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                                  @ACT-Crusader gotcha.

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                                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                    Weird call, I know you can't dummy throw but early decoy jumpers I see all the time.

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                                    @No-Quarter said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:

                                    Weird call, I know you can't dummy throw but early decoy jumpers I see all the time.

                                    I think (think!) you can jump early but not lift early. They were bound as he jumped.

                                    The above should not be taken as gospel.

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                                      Fuck up Marshall. Every club player in the country knows about early lifting.

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                                      @Frye said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:

                                      Fuck up Marshall. Every club player in the country knows about early lifting.

                                      Don is on to it

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        I just wanted to say that's an appalling call. There was no roll, no grasping of the neck, it was nothing. If the guy has his head below the hips there is going to be high contact. Stop fucking up rugby you ref fluffybunnies!

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                                        @mariner4life said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:

                                        I just wanted to say that's an appalling call. There was no roll, no grasping of the neck, it was nothing. If the guy has his head below the hips there is going to be high contact. Stop fucking up rugby you ref fluffybunnies!

                                        An Ayoubism. Gardner was letting it go. Crap call.

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          @No-Quarter said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:

                                          Weird call, I know you can't dummy throw but early decoy jumpers I see all the time.

                                          I think (think!) you can jump early but not lift early. They were bound as he jumped.

                                          The above should not be taken as gospel.

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                                          @booboo said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:

                                          @No-Quarter said in All Pinks vs Boks - Christchurch:

                                          Weird call, I know you can't dummy throw but early decoy jumpers I see all the time.

                                          I think (think!) you can jump early but not lift early. They were bound as he jumped.

                                          The above should not be taken as gospel.

                                          19.10 (f)

                                          Basically you can't jump or lift before the ball leaves the hookers hands. It is the equivalent of 'foot up' in a scrum.

                                          While Gardner was correct and obviously wanted to clean the line out contest up for the game, it would have been better to have a word at the next break and warn them of going to penalties (same with the 'early movement call' on Coles). Owens or Joubert would have done that rather than disrupt the flow of the game which took an age to find any rhythm.

                                          Get the game flowing first and your job as ref becomes easier IMO because players are operating more smoothly and making less errors.

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