Australia v India
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
This guy averages 37 in both disciplines at FC level. So he’s a good batsman and an adequate bowler. All rounder is a term that gets thrown round way too much.
Those are career averages
The last 18 months he has been putting up all rounder numbers
In 2023-24 he had a break-out season topping the Sheffield Shield runscoring chart with 938 runs at 58.62. He also took 30 wickets at 29.30 to help Tasmania reach the Shield final. He became just the second player behind Sir Garfield Sobers, in 1963-64, to score more than 900 runs and take more than 30 wickets in the same Shield season.In addition in the recent Aus A vs India A matches he scored 61* in game 1 and 46* in game 2 whilst picking up 6 wickets in game 2
Fair enough. Definitely better than anything Marsh has done as I mentioned.
Jeepers, being compared to Sobers is ok huh ?
Has he started bowling more ? 148 wickets in 93 matches isn’t many. Assuming he’s turning the arm over more now ?
While Australia has provided a who’s who of amazing batsmen and bowlers over the last 20 years alone perhaps this reinforces they haven’t had a brilliant All Rounder for ages.
( finds some kiwi straws to clutch…..)
We’ve had three.
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@nzzp said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
We’ve had three.
Colin De Grandhomme? Opened the bowling a the MCG I believe
/tongue firmly in cheek...
#stillbetterthanmarsh
Jacob Oram had his moments too
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@nzzp said in Australia v India:
@MN5 I'll die on my 'Kallis was grossly underrated as an allrounder' hill here. His numbers were elite for both batting and bowling. And he did it forever.
He was just kinda boring
Who is underrating Kallis ?
In the Lara/Tendulkar/Ponting/Dravid league as a batsman and about as good as Chris Martin with the ball just for shits and gigs.
Extraordinary player.
No country has produced as many amazing all rounders as SA
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Oram was an odd player in that statistically he put up some impressive numbers but aesthetically I could never quite take to him - for such a big man his bowling action was so dainty and lacked the pace you would expect and his batting whilst effective was heavily reliant on slogging the ball to certain parts of the ground.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
Oram was an odd player in that statistically he put up some impressive numbers but aesthetically I could never quite take to him - for such a big man his bowling action was so dainty and lacked the pace you would expect and his batting whilst effective was heavily reliant on slogging the ball to certain parts of the ground.
Yeah his batting kinda regressed as I recall, he ended up batting nine in an ODI on one occasion.
I think James Franklin ( who did the reverse in that his bowling suffered while his batting improved slightly ) and Ian Butler ( who was promoted as a bit of a pinch hitter ) were ahead of him.
The Neesh is another who should have had a far longer test career, our answer to Stokes or so I thought
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@Smudge said in Australia v India:
@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
@bayimports said in Australia v India:
probably should ban those sort of celebrations lol
just a bit of seppo bullshit bought in by the West Indies
Nothing wrong with a hug, a kiss, a lick, a grope on the arse or a dry root.
You wearing your favourite t-shirt again?
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Steve wouldn’t lie, hopefully Kohli gets another fine
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@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@nzzp said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
We’ve had three.
Colin De Grandhomme? Opened the bowling a the MCG I believe
/tongue firmly in cheek...
#stillbetterthanmarsh
Jacob Oram had his moments too
Pat Cummins is superior to every all rounder you've mentioned
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@NTA said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@nzzp said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
We’ve had three.
Colin De Grandhomme? Opened the bowling a the MCG I believe
/tongue firmly in cheek...
#stillbetterthanmarsh
Jacob Oram had his moments too
Pat Cummins is superior to every all rounder you've mentioned
He’s done well to sneak to third on the list…..although look at some of the other chumps on there.
But the three I didn’t mention have him beat ( as all rounders, only one of them beats him purely on bowling )
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@sparky said in Australia v India:
Excellent bowling performance by Australia. They have seized the initiative in this Test in Day One.
Don’t underestimate what Bumrah might do.
Lots of pressure on him once again though. I wonder anyone else will step up ?
