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    Don't follow NFL too much but in regards to the coach's being axed do they genuinely bring in new talent or is it more of a coaching merry-go-around where all the established coach's just swap franchises with each other?

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      They do bring in a lot of new talent. Offensive and Defensive Co-ordinators generally get about 50% of the jobs, while established guys get the other 50%. Teams are wary of getting guys with too much history and baggage - it's not like the NRL where guys can bounce to their 3rd or 4th team without much concern. Rare to see a head coach find a 3rd home. McCarthy will be one of the very few, I can't see Doug Peterson getting another gig.

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        Patriots hired first, and took Vrabel in what was a no-brainer. They knew who they wanted, ticked the boxes early on their "must interview" and then hired him.

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          Surprisingly competent from Kraft and the Pats. They could have stuck to Mayo for another season, but pulled the trigger and now are in a much better position. Now they should have just hired Vrabel last year, but at least they've recognised their error.

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            i still maintain firing a first time HC after 1 year is an average call. But, if they know Vrabel is better, then it's actually really good business (fixing a mistake 12 months ago as you say).

            Takes guts for these guys to publicly admit they got it wrong

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              Yeah I think I agree with you. You've got to give these guys time to grow, build continuity etc etc. But if there's a clear better option there in the short and long term then you have to pull the trigger.

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                #276

                I am very much in favour of firing a guy after one year if it's not working.

                It's a sunk cost.

                You are only hurting yourself further the more you delay

                A lot of the feedback on Mayo was that he had completely lost the locker room and just was not suited to the head coach role.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  Washington win with a last second field goal that goes in off the upright.

                  good game

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                  @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

                  Washington win with a last second field goal that goes in off the upright.

                  good game

                  How nervy was Gonzalez before that kick! More nervous ticks than Steve Smith

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                    just do your hair one more time mate

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      I am very much in favour of firing a guy after one year if it's not working.

                      It's a sunk cost.

                      You are only hurting yourself further the more you delay

                      A lot of the feedback on Mayo was that he had completely lost the locker room and just was not suited to the head coach role.

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                      @KiwiMurph said in NFL 2024:

                      I am very much in favour of firing a guy after one year if it's not working.

                      It's a sunk cost.

                      You are only hurting yourself further the more you delay

                      A lot of the feedback on Mayo was that he had completely lost the locker room and just was not suited to the head coach role.

                      The record isn't necessarily important in the first year. IIRC Troy Aikman had a bad first season under Jimmy Johnson and it turned out fine. But if the players aren't behind him that is a deal breaker

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                        i take back what i said earlier in the season, Sam Darnold is still exactly who we thought he was

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          i take back what i said earlier in the season, Sam Darnold is still exactly who we thought he was

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                          @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

                          i take back what i said earlier in the season, Sam Darnold is still exactly who we thought he was

                          defence has also been shithouse so far though too

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                            Vikings O-line should be apologising to everyone though, they are getting smoked and the Rams aren't even sending big numbers.

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                              oh please oh please oh please

                              Apparently Jerry Jones has spoken to Deion Sanders about the Cowboys job

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                                oh please oh please oh please

                                Apparently Jerry Jones has spoken to Deion Sanders about the Cowboys job

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                                @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

                                oh please oh please oh please

                                Apparently Jerry Jones has spoken to Deion Sanders about the Cowboys job

                                What a circus

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                                  oh please oh please oh please

                                  Apparently Jerry Jones has spoken to Deion Sanders about the Cowboys job

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                                  @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

                                  oh please oh please oh please

                                  Apparently Jerry Jones has spoken to Deion Sanders about the Cowboys job

                                  That would be awesome to watch. Holy shit.

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                                    @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

                                    oh please oh please oh please

                                    Apparently Jerry Jones has spoken to Deion Sanders about the Cowboys job

                                    What a circus

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                                    @canefan said in NFL 2024:

                                    @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

                                    oh please oh please oh please

                                    Apparently Jerry Jones has spoken to Deion Sanders about the Cowboys job

                                    What a circus

                                    Hah. If they get him early he could sell the house to get his kid at quarterback. Would be epic destruction

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                                      And it's back to the bench holding a clipboard for Sam Darnold.

                                      Rams defense dominant, a playoff record 9 sacks.

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                                        totally one sided game over by half time, Darnold smashed in the big games he was under pressure in

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                                          Vikings specialise in QBs that put up useful regular season stats but fold in the playoffs

                                          Kirk Cousins
                                          Teddy Bridgewater
                                          Case Keenum
                                          Sam Darnold

                                          Can young JJ McCarthy change the narrative

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