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Highlanders 2025

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    @SouthernMann Where the fringe players sit will be quite interesting.

    I think there is a relatively clear pecking order at prop & lock. We know hooker is open season, but ideally by the end of the year the hope would be there is an established starter., because I would suggest that means one of them is on the fringes of the All Blacks.

    Loose forward will be fascinating, particularly how they use Lasaqa. Michaels I get the feeling is on the outer, but you just never know.

    Halfback too could be fascinating, because it seems they have five halfbacks training with them. I would suggest considering how highly rated Pledger is, that gives a clue at how Jamie rates the other two behind Fakatava (who has supposedly re-signed until 2027 though I take that with a grain of salt). Hastie is the one who they tried (unsuccessfully) to get rid of - not Arscott, though I think he is really just viewed as a solid number three. Will Lennox get a game? Will Pledger get a game? Should be fun to follow.

    First five, Millar is obviously the starter, but what happens behind him will be interesting. I had heard that Robinson has been brought down with the intention of him being the 2nd choice. I've heard Faleafaga is looking at options in Japan after the Super Rugby season, and unless Millar gets injured I think his chances will be limited. However, what could be interesting is how the shape of the bench effects things. Will Hurley/Gilbert cover 10 on gameday?

    Midfielders, the assumption is that Umaga-Jensen and Tele'a will be the starting midfield, but I honestly feel like it is open season here. Would not shock me to see Te Hiwi, Gilbert or Whaanga in there. If we are playing well this should become settled.

    The wingers should be fun. I think it is going to be a classic case of competition for places bringing the best out of them. It was notable that Tavatavanawai spent time at centre in the MP game, so don't discount them doing that to get their best players on the park. I think ultimately if all four main wingers play to the best of their abilities, then Tangitau and Tavatavanawai are the starting pair, backed up by Nareki and Manson.

    Fullback, I think they are hoping JRK is back middle of the season. This just seems to be the vibe. We'll know what the thinking is on Thursday. If Hurley has impressed on the training ground, then they might chuck him in, but they may decide that they actually have enough x-factor in the backline, and will instead opt for a safer option like Gilbert, which I could understand.

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      The field seemed at least a.metre and a half short width AND length wise so it was akin to a phone booth boxing match
      Not much sweeping backline plays apart from the Landers try to Renton which was a beauty, counter from inside their 22 quick hands Millar Tele'a Gilbert to give Tangitau early ball and in space and he used his speed to full advantage.
      There's life in Nareki yet, very dangerous w every touch.
      Manson as well. Only had a cpl of touches but threatened everytime with his speed off the mark. He is RAPID! There is speed and then there us Manson.
      The wing battle this season will be interesting. Overall the Landers did.look very fit, just couldn't get much going w drop ball loose passes etc. If it was a straight 23 v 23 I think their fitness advantage would've been more obvious. They are VERY lean. Not much size in the forwards. Not a bad performance considering their full on training week including Thursday full sessions and the 4.30am early rise on Friday.

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        Yeah this is all really reasonable stuff.

        I’d like to see

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          I’d anticipate us fielding our most experienced line up to start the season with big pressure a lot of players from up and coming lads.

          In my mind DLB and Henry Bell don’t make the 23 at all, while Nareki, Gilbert and Arscott probably only make it because of experience / injuries.

          1. Ethan De Groot
          2. Soanne Vikenna
          3. Saula Ma’au
          4. Fabian Holland
          5. Mitchell Dunshea
          6. Hugh Renton
          7. Sean Withy
          8. Nikora Broughton
          9. Folau Fakatava
          10. Cam Millar
          11. Jona Nareki
          12. Thomas Umunga Jensen
          13. Tanelea Telea
          14. Timcoi T
          15. Sam Gilbert
          16. Jack Taylor
          17. Josh Bartlett
          18. Sefo Kauitau
          19. TK Howden
          20. Venevui Lasaqua
          21. James Arscott
          22. Finn Hurley
          23. Caleb Tangitau
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            Rather bemused at the discounting of Nareki - if he's playing to the best of his abilities, he's AB quality.

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              Rather bemused at the discounting of Nareki - if he's playing to the best of his abilities, he's AB quality.

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              @Bones wouldn’t disagree but he’s also seemingly had a lot of injuries the last few years and seems to need a good spell of games to find good form. I suspect an in form Tangitau may surplant him this season.

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                Rather bemused at the discounting of Nareki - if he's playing to the best of his abilities, he's AB quality.

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                @Bones said in Highlanders 2025:

                Rather bemused at the discounting of Nareki - if he's playing to the best of his abilities, he's AB quality.

                Agreed. Our best and most consistent back for years on end and all of a sudden he’s out of the 23… The joys of pre season conversations.

                Week 1 can’t come soon enough.

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                  @Bones wouldn’t disagree but he’s also seemingly had a lot of injuries the last few years and seems to need a good spell of games to find good form. I suspect an in form Tangitau may surplant him this season.

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                  @handa457 I haven't seen enough of Tangitau to properly rate him, was he on fire in NPC?

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                    @handa457 I haven't seen enough of Tangitau to properly rate him, was he on fire in NPC?

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                    @Bones Tangitau has a high ceiling but he's raw. He has AB potential if he smooths out his rough edges so I hope he does. Seems a player that would benefit with consistent game time.

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                      @Bones Tangitau has a high ceiling but he's raw. He has AB potential if he smooths out his rough edges so I hope he does. Seems a player that would benefit with consistent game time.

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                      @KiwiMurph this is my feeling too. He’s 21 and I think he’s got every chance of being an all black in the next few years. Huge ceiling - but raw.

                      If the rumours that Nareki is leaving at the end of this season are true wonder if Jamie will roll the dice with him this season and push for a lot of game time.

                      Of the young bucks I’m expecting Taylor, Tangitau, Hurley and Howden to really cement themselves in the 23 this season. Feel like I haven’t seen enough of Lasaqua too make a call, and Stodart may have to bide his time.

                      Long term with the rise of Tengblad, Broughton, Howden, Haig and the continued form of Dunshea and Holland I wonder how much game time Stodart will see barr an injury crisis

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                        With Nareki it is the likelihood that this may be his last year with the team, as well as how injury prone he has been. Certainly keen to see him get some good gametime and know he will be an asset when on the field. I feel sorry for the bloke a bit, he had several seasons where the tactic was pretty much throw it to Nareki and hope he does something.

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                          Team is out today. From what I observed when I drove past at training yesterday, expecting to see something along the lines of:

                          1. de Groot
                          2. Bell
                          3. Ma'u
                          4. Dunshea
                          5. Holland
                          6. Howden
                          7. Lasaqa
                          8. Renton
                          9. Fakatava
                          10. Millar
                          11. Nareki
                          12. Te Hiwi
                          13. Tele'a
                          14. Tavatavanawai
                          15. Gilbert

                          Manson, Hurley and Tangitau were training as the opposite back three, so that is a bit of a clue Gilbert will be in 15.

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                            Withy has been training mostly at 7, so that looks to be the position he'll be playing.

                            https://www.thepress.co.nz/sport/360563287/withy-excited-invercargill-return-highlanders

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                              Tony Brown back in Dunedin and helping out with the team for a few weeks. Good to see

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                                Tavatavanawai to start in the 12 jersey on Thursday. Very interesting. This could be fun

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                                  Tavatavanawai to start in the 12 jersey on Thursday. Very interesting. This could be fun

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                                  @Landers92 dont hate the idea of keeping in in the action, loves a ruck, no sign of TUJ?

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                                    @Landers92 dont hate the idea of keeping in in the action, loves a ruck, no sign of TUJ?

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                                    @Kiwiwomble yeah hope it’s nothing serious with him. Will try and get some insight around that tomorrow

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                                      @Landers92 dont hate the idea of keeping in in the action, loves a ruck, no sign of TUJ?

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                                      @Kiwiwomble Injured - believe it is the shoulder from the NPC

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                                          Tavatavanawai to start in the 12 jersey on Thursday. Very interesting. This could be fun

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                                          @Landers92 said in Highlanders 2025:

                                          Tavatavanawai to start in the 12 jersey on Thursday. Very interesting. This could be fun

                                          I like it. Gets Tangitau into the team.

                                          Interesting Tengblad named on the bench again.

                                          Players not named, Wingham, Jack Taylor, Hayden Michaels, Bartlett, Faleafaga, Arscott, Whaanga, Loft, Stodart, Umaga-Jensen.

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