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Black Caps in India

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    That kept me up later than I wanted. Great work to fight back from 150odd for 1???

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      Got'em!! Good shit lads. I saw the 5th wicket but was stoked to wake up and hear we have them 9 down. Sure they've got runs on the board but things are looking waaaay better that after that first session.

      Although those stats from Gollum re first innings scores v SA are interesting. Fingers crossed we can at least match their score and hopefully get a lead. Batting last will be challenging to say the least!!

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        Got'em!! Good shit lads. I saw the 5th wicket but was stoked to wake up and hear we have them 9 down. Sure they've got runs on the board but things are looking waaaay better that after that first session.

        Although those stats from Gollum re first innings scores v SA are interesting. Fingers crossed we can at least match their score and hopefully get a lead. Batting last will be challenging to say the least!!

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        @Paekakboyz said in Black Caps in India:

        Got'em!! Good shit lads. I saw the 5th wicket but was stoked to wake up and hear we have them 9 down. Sure they've got runs on the board but things are looking waaaay better that after that first session.

        Although those stats from Gollum re first innings scores v SA are interesting. Fingers crossed we can at least match their score and hopefully get a lead. Batting last will be challenging to say the least!!

        Have they though ? anything under 300 ain't much in this day and age especially on a roads like they have in India.

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          In the context of that SA series and Indian conditions a good 300 and change batting first seems ok. I'm hoping we only have to bat once but ha ha dreams are free.

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            I do hear ya but I would not have been surprised in the slightest to wake up to hearing they were 350 odd for 3. That Steyn bloke isn't a Black Cap last I heard 😞

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              Well India really did what I hoped we'd do, bat first and get 300+ with a number of guys chipping in. In saying that, it was a great fightback from the boys to restrict them - very different to the SA series where SA had them on the ropes a number of times but then allowed them to get to something respectable.

              We're still in this, but losing the toss has really put us on the back foot despite our fightback. We're going to need 400+ in our first dig, or ideally 500+ so we don't have to bat last which will be more then challenging. If we're chasing 150 or more on the final day we're up against it.

              I'm hearing more and more calls for doing away with the toss and just allowing the visiting captain to decide what happens. An interesting idea but I'm not sure I'm completely sold. It is annoying how important it is in a lot of matches though - particularly when the pitch is guaranteed to fall apart come day 5.

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                It was a really great fightback after a poor start - the curse of the Black Caps bowler, some peaches unfortunately smushed between 2 or 3 pies, which allows a batsman to leave the good and plunder the bad, and before you know it, they are cruising at 6-7 an over.

                But they have two important jobs today, one is getting the pesky 10th asap, and two, getting runs on the board without the usual BC opener walk on, walk off cameo. If we can set a great platform and then unleash Ross and Kane...the test gets very, very interesting.

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                  Well India really did what I hoped we'd do, bat first and get 300+ with a number of guys chipping in. In saying that, it was a great fightback from the boys to restrict them - very different to the SA series where SA had them on the ropes a number of times but then allowed them to get to something respectable.

                  We're still in this, but losing the toss has really put us on the back foot despite our fightback. We're going to need 400+ in our first dig, or ideally 500+ so we don't have to bat last which will be more then challenging. If we're chasing 150 or more on the final day we're up against it.

                  I'm hearing more and more calls for doing away with the toss and just allowing the visiting captain to decide what happens. An interesting idea but I'm not sure I'm completely sold. It is annoying how important it is in a lot of matches though - particularly when the pitch is guaranteed to fall apart come day 5.

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                  @No-Quarter said in Black Caps in India:

                  Well India really did what I hoped we'd do, bat first and get 300+ with a number of guys chipping in. In saying that, it was a great fightback from the boys to restrict them - very different to the SA series where SA had them on the ropes a number of times but then allowed them to get to something respectable.

                  We're still in this, but losing the toss has really put us on the back foot despite our fightback. We're going to need 400+ in our first dig, or ideally 500+ so we don't have to bat last which will be more then challenging. If we're chasing 150 or more on the final day we're up against it.

                  I'm hearing more and more calls for doing away with the toss and just allowing the visiting captain to decide what happens. An interesting idea but I'm not sure I'm completely sold. It is annoying how important it is in a lot of matches though - particularly when the pitch is guaranteed to fall apart come day 5.

                  I like that given how far some (most) countries are in producing pitches that advantage their team. It's not quite a checks and balances kind of thing but it might have a positive influence on overall pitch quality... maybe!

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                  • R Offline
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                    good fightback after a poor start, but we are still fucked i reckon - losing the toss on this pitch was pretty much game over. balls are already keeping low: variable bounce on day 1, and how much more difficult they made it look at the end of the day vs the start is probably a pretty good indicator unfortunately. our only chance is some really outstanding batting to get a decent first innings lead, as we won't be getting fuck all in our 2nd dig.
                    play straight as much as possible to negate the bounce, punish anything short. patience and concentration and not getting flustered when you do play and miss.

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                      They've still scored 300. We'll need 400 to have a hope i reckon. That's a fucking big ask if the best of the batting conditions has already been.

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                        Kane was saying day 2-3 should be the best conditions. But fully agree that if we don't get a decent lead we'll have them taking advantage of conditions and have to chase the game on a day 4 and 5 pitch.

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                          Wagner picks up the last Indian wicket, India all out for 318.

                          We are now batting, Latham and Guptill opening, 16/0.

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                            Gee that Jadeja has had a pretty handy start to his test career. a first class batting average of 43 including a triple century sure as shit ain't bad either. He's certainly bowling pretty early though......

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                              good fightback after a poor start, but we are still fucked i reckon - losing the toss on this pitch was pretty much game over. balls are already keeping low: variable bounce on day 1, and how much more difficult they made it look at the end of the day vs the start is probably a pretty good indicator unfortunately. our only chance is some really outstanding batting to get a decent first innings lead, as we won't be getting fuck all in our 2nd dig.
                              play straight as much as possible to negate the bounce, punish anything short. patience and concentration and not getting flustered when you do play and miss.

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                              @reprobate said in Black Caps in India:

                              good fightback after a poor start, but we are still fucked i reckon - losing the toss on this pitch was pretty much game over.

                              Yeah, you'd think that chasing anything over 200 will be tough in the fourth innings. Assuming we roll them for 400, that means we need to score 500 here to have a crack. And you wonder who will do that - possible if Kane settles in and gets a 200, but it is hard to see the top 6 putting together 350 runs.

                              I'm ever optimistic, though!

                              P

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                                Black Caps 71/1 at lunch. Guptill out for 21 (lbw Yadav). Williamson on 21, Latham 25.

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                                  Guppy's test average is now 29.49

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                                  • TeWaioT TeWaio

                                    Guppy's test average is now 29.49

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                                    @TeWaio said in Black Caps in India:

                                    Guppy's test average is now 29.49

                                    That's higher than mine by 29.49

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                                      Latham caught a short leg, but the ball was pinned against the helmet grille while he juggled it so not out! Lucky

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                                        Wow that's a lucky break for Latham. Hits it onto his foot, fielder takes the catch but before he had control it hit the grill of his helmet invalidating the catch. Not sure I've ever seen that before!

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                                          And a new rule I didnt know - if the ball hits a helmet anywhere, it's not out! Latham played the sweep onto his pad, fielder juggled but it hit his helmet, and 'not out'

                                          weird.

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