Electric Vehicles
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
These guys reckon it's a solid offering: https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/2025-byd-shark-6-off-road-4x4-review-147971/
"Glad we’re carrying some jerry cans of fuel."
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@antipodean said in Electric Vehicles:
@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
These guys reckon it's a solid offering: https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/2025-byd-shark-6-off-road-4x4-review-147971/
"Glad we’re carrying some jerry cans of fuel."
I think anyone running a petrol engine would be wise to carry at least one jerry can of fuel out that way. Not taking the hybrid Camry on those roads, either. A nice diesel troopy with extended tanks. That's the shot.
The Shark isn't a desert dueller to my mind - a truck of those dimensions is approaching wankpanzer territory, going up against the Ranger and Hilux.
They point out that the towing and load capacities are well below the competition, which is OK in my book; most of the Rangers or Hiluxes I see driving around clearly aren't being used to tow much more than a nascent divorce and a few cappucinos, as well as offroad gear that looks decidedly unused.
The fuel consumption was interesting tho - like EVs at lower speeds it performed well. No idea why BYD are flogging "2L/100km" tho. That indicates a lot of charging being available, and gentle driving with it.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
From the above link:
Verdict
This trip reinforced yet again what a stunning and brutal place the Australian outback is and how hard it is on the vehicles that venture into it.
And the BYD Shark 6 stood up to the challenge.
Yep, we had tyre issues and there are queries over fuel consumption but the core mechanical, technical and design package all passed the test comfortably, quietly and capably.
And most important, robustly!
I honestly expected at one stage or another we’d be stuck by the side of the road with something broken or software malfunctioning, especially as these high-tech dual-cab utes are pre-production vehicles.What sort of trip do you go into “expecting” that to happen?? Sounds absolutely horrific
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@voodoo said in Electric Vehicles:
What sort of trip do you go into “expecting” that to happen?? Sounds absolutely horrific
Vehicle reviewers are like any other media critic : they love to see shit fail
Think food, film, etc.Particularly EVs
And especially Chinese made anythingIf you find EV reviews from about 5 years ago everything is deeply critical - and yes, justifiably so in some ways.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@antipodean said in Electric Vehicles:
@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
These guys reckon it's a solid offering: https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/2025-byd-shark-6-off-road-4x4-review-147971/
"Glad we’re carrying some jerry cans of fuel."
I think anyone running a petrol engine would be wise to carry at least one jerry can of fuel out that way. Not taking the hybrid Camry on those roads, either. A nice diesel troopy with extended tanks. That's the shot.
Agree completely. I quoted it as the strangest sentence given the route. Anyone not insane is taking additional fuel and/ or has extended tanks.
The Shark isn't a desert dueller to my mind - a truck of those dimensions is approaching wankpanzer territory, going up against the Ranger and Hilux.
They point out that the towing and load capacities are well below the competition, which is OK in my book; most of the Rangers or Hiluxes I see driving around clearly aren't being used to tow much more than a nascent divorce and a few cappucinos, as well as offroad gear that looks decidedly unused.
I keep boring people that hybrids are the best solution for towing anything. Immense immediate torque to start moving, fuel for economy and recharging.
The fuel consumption was interesting tho - like EVs at lower speeds it performed well. No idea why BYD are flogging "2L/100km" tho. That indicates a lot of charging being available, and gentle driving with it.
Mrs Antipodean has a hybrid Lexus and there's no way it's capable of getting that sort of fuel economy. Not helped by her putting it into sports mode at every red light...
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@antipodean said in Electric Vehicles:
Mrs Antipodean has a hybrid Lexus and there's no way it's capable of getting that sort of fuel economy. Not helped by her putting it into sports mode at every red light...
Yep. I'm glad the charging for the iX3 was free
Mrs TA not impressed. Even more than usual. So I did well.
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Working in the energy management area of Woolworths, with sites in both Aus and NZ, the carbon intensity of NZ's stores is so much lower because the energy source is so much greener.
So while the above farm might not be a huge impact on global emissions, the price factor is what might be an important piece here. I'm sure energy retailers will find another way to gouge customers of course.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
Working in the energy management area of Woolworths, with sites in both Aus and NZ, the carbon intensity of NZ's stores is so much lower because the energy source is so much greener.
So while the above farm might not be a huge impact on global emissions, the price factor is what might be an important piece here. I'm sure energy retailers will find another way to gouge customers of course.
To be honest sounds like a real opportunity for someone in the short/medium term to still make some coin here while helping everyone, before the big guys swallow them up
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i was watch an old episode of the Grand Tour, maybe 2017, where they were testing that butt ugly BWM EV that was out, little bubble thing....was quite shocking to see how much they changed in the last 7 years, was a bit of a joke and now pretty normal
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@bayimports said in Electric Vehicles:
To be honest sounds like a real opportunity for someone in the short/medium term to still make some coin here while helping everyone, before the big guys swallow them up
The farm owner alluded to that, and it is the same here: there is a massive opportunity for things like wholesale pricing at volume, or frequency stabilisation services.
Once the parameters move from a 20th Century grid, diminishing returns.
So that big Tesla battery installed in South Australia paid for itself in a year. Subsequent battery installs will be cheaper, and progressively eat each others' lunch.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Electric Vehicles:
i was watch an old episode of the Grand Tour, maybe 2017, where they were testing that butt ugly BWM EV that was out, little bubble thing....was quite shocking to see how much they changed in the last 7 years, was a bit of a joke and now pretty normal
BMW i3 - I drove one about 6 years ago and remember the amazement I felt at the instant torque. No, it wasn't as powerful as V8s of the time but for most drivers it induced giggles.
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We're now 15 months into our Model 3 and I still think it's a superb piece of kit. Biggest drawback is that it's so wide, certainly more than it feels so kerbing the wheels is a pretty common occurrence.
My wife messed up the other day and had a slight ding with another car. Totally her fault, but as she said to me "you married an Asian - occupational hazard".
The thing is though, if you are a car nut like me, as much as it's enjoyable, you do forget just how much of a performance/sports car that it isn't. I drove an M3 recently (as a comparison) and it was a massive reality check of what a soulful sports car is all about.
The gap is certainly closer to sports cars than it used to be. But it's kind of like going from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic. The massive chasm is now a smaller chasm.
I'll always have an electric car on the drive going forwards as they are brilliant pieces of kit. But they aren't sports cars. The Taycan gives it a nudge, granted, but electric is just missing that big thing that makes sport cars smile inducing fun.
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@MajorRage said in Electric Vehicles:
The Taycan gives it a nudge, granted, but electric is just missing that big thing that makes sport cars smile inducing fun.
They're giving it a crack over at Hyundai. I drove the standard Ioniq 5 while I was in NZ and it was very nice. This must border on stupid tho...
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@NTA i love the styling of the IONIQ 5...gives me DeLorean vibes...will probably age horribly....but i like it
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@Kiwiwomble I saw the full preview on another channel where they set up the flappy paddles and the engine noise package etc.
Hilarious
